Gera Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 Hello everyone, thanks for checking my post! To complete my 2022 lineup, I'm looking at a heavy stick for frogging, after tons of reading I think I will be going for a Dobyns 735C (unless you convince me otherwise) I been thinking that the Sierra rod may be a good option. but then if its for frogs why wouldn't I just go for a Fury instead and save (not really save but repurpose in fishing gear) $60. What are the advantages from the Sierra that will make me pay $60 more or even worst getting another TW tube on the front door that the wife will see (cant find those locally, only the Furys) Thanks for your comments! Quote
Fishingmickey Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 Hi Gera, This may just be me. I think there is a step up in quality between the Sierra and the Fury. I've handled several Fury's and they are a nice rod. I own several Sierra's and really like them a lot. I like the full cork grip on the Sierra and it seems noticeably lighter in my hands then a Fury. I haven't tried to research the difference in blanks, guides or seats between the two. I just really like fishing with my Sierra's and it adds to my enjoyment while I'm on the water. Fishingmickey 1 Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted February 1, 2022 Super User Posted February 1, 2022 735 will cover 90% of your frog needs. 736 for heavy pads/grass. Not a fan of the fury line. Sierra/champ will be perfect for you. 3 Quote
softwateronly Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, iabass8 said: 735 will cover 90% of your frog needs. 736 for heavy pads/grass. Not a fan of the fury line. Sierra/champ will be perfect for you. X2 scott Quote
SproDD79 Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 Go with the Sierra , better guides, better blank. Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted February 1, 2022 Super User Posted February 1, 2022 Heads-up on the Sierra's. There's 2 versions. One with micro-guides one with regular guides. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted February 1, 2022 Super User Posted February 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said: Heads-up on the Sierra's. There's 2 versions. One with micro-guides one with regular guides. Plus the Trout and Panfish Sierras now too (I have one on my wishlist) 1 Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted February 1, 2022 Super User Posted February 1, 2022 Sierra is a great choice. There is another option IF you like a faster tip, Kaden 715 or 745. Same price point. 1 Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted February 1, 2022 Super User Posted February 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: Plus the Trout and Panfish Sierras now too (I have one on my wishlist) I would hope he wouldn't try froggin' with that. 1 1 Quote
Gera Posted February 1, 2022 Author Posted February 1, 2022 37 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: Plus the Trout and Panfish Sierras now too (I have one on my wishlist) Didn’t know about this, which one is the right one for frogging? I was only thinking about the full cork. so the question now is if I go up to the champion, can I also use it for flipping? 14 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said: I would hope he wouldn't try froggin' with that. note taken Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted February 1, 2022 Super User Posted February 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gera said: Didn’t know about this, which one is the right one for frogging? I was only thinking about the full cork. Sierra - 735 for frogging ...if the weeds you're fishing aren't thick, maybe could drop to the 734 Kaden - 745 or 744 (same conditions) Champ XP - 735 or 734/744 (again, for sparser weeds). Champion can be split grip or full-cork...both types available for those rods. 9 minutes ago, Gera said: so the question now is if I go up to the champion, can I also use it for flipping? The flipping rods might look the same, but they are stouter in some respects...might be able to get by with the Champ XP 735C, but I'd still go with a dedicated flipping rod - the 765FLIP or 766FLIP Quote
Super User NorthernBasser Posted February 2, 2022 Super User Posted February 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, Gera said: Didn’t know about this, which one is the right one for frogging? I was only thinking about the full cork. FTR, with the Sierra 735, it's split grip for both the regular guides and micro guides. The regular guide version does had full cork with some models, but not the 735. Micro or regular guides is up to you. Micro guide version will likely be a tad lighter, but not really that noticeable, if at all. Since you're using it for froggin', I'd maybe go with the regular guides. Less chance of slop building up in them. But I think either would work just fine. I have the Sierra 734 micro I throw straight braid on (for other applications). Quote
SproDD79 Posted February 2, 2022 Posted February 2, 2022 49 minutes ago, Gera said: Didn’t know about this, which one is the right one for frogging? I was only thinking about the full cork. so the question now is if I go up to the champion, can I also use it for flipping? note taken I use the 736 Champion split grip for frogs and heavy jigs in the junk,I love it. The main reason I enjoy it for heavey applications, 1. It's light and sensitive 2. It's got a great tip for a 6 power rod(it's not a broomstick). If you can do the Champion, I would go in that direction, if possible. 1 Quote
scbassin Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 I have 2 Champion XP DC 736 C rods that I use for frogs. One of them is rigged with a 3:16 No Bull Frog which a big frog. I have no problems frog fishing with these they are a 6 power get a good hook set & they are coming to the boat. If you have to wait a little longer & get this rod you will not regret it. 1 Quote
Gera Posted February 3, 2022 Author Posted February 3, 2022 I guess my problem now is that if I go for the champion I get now into Expride price range and that opens another conversation. Quote
Dvo509 Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 I own the Sierra 735 and the Champion 736. I honestly use both of them equally. If I am frogging in sparse cover/open water, or around docks I am using the Sierra 735. It is IMO easier to walk a frog on the 735 because of the blank. It’s a little slower action. When I am throwing around heavy cover and thick pad fields I have the Champ 736 in my hands. It is a little more difficult to walk a frog at first with the 736 than the 735 because of the faster tip. However that might have been just because I owned the 735 a couple years before the 736 and I was use to that actions. Once you get that 736 comfortable in your hands I would say thats the superior frog rod. You can pull a fish out of most thick weeds and pads with the 736. I do believe the Sierra 735 is more versatile rod than the champ 736 but as a straight frog rod I would go with the 736. When frogging I honestly have them both on the deck at all times and I go back and forth depending on what I am fishing or what frogs I have tied on. 1 Quote
jimanchower Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 I have a DC705C that I use primarily for frogs (I don't fish a lot of really nasty stuff). I don't see a lot of love for that one compared to the DC735C, for whatever reason. I'll echo the sentiment that Sierra is a big step up over Fury. 1 Quote
SproDD79 Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 9 hours ago, Gera said: I guess my problem now is that if I go for the champion I get now into Expride price range and that opens another conversation. You can definitely get the Champion at a 20-30% discount if you wait for a sale, many retaliers offer them at a discount throughout the year, maybe presidents day will have some deals available. The expride will be difficult to get at a discounted price. Quote
Gera Posted February 4, 2022 Author Posted February 4, 2022 16 hours ago, jimanchower said: I have a DC705C that I use primarily for frogs (I don't fish a lot of really nasty stuff). I don't see a lot of love for that one compared to the DC735C, for whatever reason. I'll echo the sentiment that Sierra is a big step up over Fury. thanks, after everyone suggesting to at least go for the sierra, I'm no longer considering Fury as an option. I guess that there is a positive that there is no liquid water around me and I didn't follow the impulse and got ir from Dicks. 14 hours ago, SproDD79 said: You can definitely get the Champion at a 20-30% discount if you wait for a sale, many retaliers offer them at a discount throughout the year, maybe presidents day will have some deals available. The expride will be difficult to get at a discounted price. This is an excellent point. I guess I can wait to the frogging season and purchase it at the first sale I see. I should have done it back in December that sale was great. but since I had already bought a few rods on Black Friday I wanted to slow it down. Quote
MontclairDave Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 On 2/3/2022 at 4:23 PM, jimanchower said: I have a DC705C that I use primarily for frogs (I don't fish a lot of really nasty stuff). I don't see a lot of love for that one compared to the DC735C, for whatever reason. I'll echo the sentiment that Sierra is a big step up over Fury. How is the tip on the 705C? Does it walk a frog easily with it? I fish out of a kayak and may want to keep it to 7’ max. 735 is also in the running for bank fishing on some local ponds with open banks. Quote
jimanchower Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 On 1/29/2023 at 3:46 PM, MontclairDave said: How is the tip on the 705C? Does it walk a frog easily with it? I fish out of a kayak and may want to keep it to 7’ max. 735 is also in the running for bank fishing on some local ponds with open banks. It's got a relatively soft tip, which I think helps walk a frog. I picked up a MB Levante Perfect Pitch on a whim a year or two ago, thinking that it would become my frog rod, but I prefer the Dobyns. Quote
waymont Posted February 4, 2023 Posted February 4, 2023 On 1/29/2023 at 4:46 PM, MontclairDave said: How is the tip on the 705C? Does it walk a frog easily with it? I fish out of a kayak and may want to keep it to 7’ max. 735 is also in the running for bank fishing on some local ponds with open banks. It’s my favorite frog rod. Much easier to walk a frog with it than a 735. I use 50lb PP, but don’t cast 100’ into the thickest stuff. However I do use it for regular thick stuff, and it’s great. also doubles great for S-Waver 168 and 6.8” Keitechs. I started frogging with Fury 735, but really disliked it, too heavy for me. the DC 705 hooked me up! Quote
Fat Ika Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/3/2022 at 12:31 AM, scbassin said: I have 2 Champion XP DC 736 C rods that I use for frogs. One of them is rigged with a 3:16 No Bull Frog which a big frog. I have no problems frog fishing with these they are a 6 power get a good hook set & they are coming to the boat. If you have to wait a little longer & get this rod you will not regret it. Also use the 736 for some frogging and some flipping. Love the relatively soft tip for it's power. Suits my style for bigger frogs and the heaviest cover. Quote
Fat Ika Posted February 5, 2023 Posted February 5, 2023 On 2/1/2022 at 5:15 PM, Columbia Craw said: Sierra is a great choice. There is another option IF you like a faster tip, Kaden 715 or 745. Same price point. Love both those Kadens. That 715 is the perfect length, action and power for 75% of my frogging preferences. Use a 735 champ for bigger frogs and the thickest grass, but super happy with the Kaden 715 and 745 for the lighter end of traditional heavy bass fishing. Quote
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