BradleyC Posted February 3, 2022 Author Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, TnRiver46 said: When they formed the new tour, one angler said he would rather be beaten by wolves on the BPT than win against sheep on BASS. It didn’t sit well with some from BASS, of course they all end up fishing against each other in opens or MLFLW big 5 tourneys and the sheep finished ahead of that wolf a few times Interesting okay, I had heard there was some issues going on but that definitely clears it up. 1 Quote
JimDallas Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 I will also say I don't see much difference in the live streams. The cut up version on TV shows more fish caught but on the live streams, (maybe its just me) I don't think more fish are being caught on MLF events than BASS events. Except I was watching the live stream when KVD went nuts and won the Stage 4 BPT event last year... that was awesome. Quote
EWREX Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 4 hours ago, JimDallas said: I will also say I don't see much difference in the live streams. The cut up version on TV shows more fish caught but on the live streams, (maybe its just me) I don't think more fish are being caught on MLF events than BASS events. Except I was watching the live stream when KVD went nuts and won the Stage 4 BPT event last year... that was awesome. I have a sneaky suspicion that MLF broadcast's are slightly delayed and feeds are notified when an angler hooks up. 99% of the time when they "check in" with an angler who has a camera on their boat, that said angler all of a sudden hooks up with a fish lol. it's like clockwork every time. 1 1 Quote
padon Posted February 4, 2022 Posted February 4, 2022 i watch both when i can. i mean its fishing and im an addicted fish head. i tend to focus on BASS more but probably jus because thats what i grew up with and i enjoy the history of it.MLF does kind of confuse me sometimes though, i mean its stage four knock out round weights zero but sometimes they dont , its a cup event but one group fishes one day another group the next... wth man im just a fishing junkie with a full time job . i cant keep this all straight. but its all good . guys catching bass while im working. a distraction. 1 Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted February 4, 2022 Posted February 4, 2022 On 2/3/2022 at 9:52 AM, TnRiver46 said: A lot of it stems from the anglers themselves. Some stones were hurled after the big split in ‘19, most famously the wolves/sheep comment……. We're not the anglers in these series so why would that effect what we watch? Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted February 4, 2022 Global Moderator Posted February 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: We're not the anglers in these series so why would that effect what we watch? Well that’s up to each individual but it has an effect. Kind of like all the threads on here about certain YouTube fishermen that end in dispute, they have fans that back everything they do and attack any competitors Quote
Logan S Posted February 4, 2022 Posted February 4, 2022 All the FLW stuff that MLF bought is still pretty good, which is now actually the majority of the MLF organization. Zeroing weights on the TW Circuit sucks though... The BPT and MLF Cup stuff? Meh...Feels more like an exhibition league now than a tournament trail, which some people like I'm sure...Just not me. BASS Elite Series is still the king of the pro trails and live coverage. BASS does need to improve it's grassroots/local stuff - They need a BFL equivalent. 4 Quote
GReb Posted February 4, 2022 Posted February 4, 2022 I don’t understand how a person who enjoys watching professional fishing doesn’t enjoy both. They both have great anglers and personalities competing in completely different formats. It’s refreshing. After all, the goal is entertainment. 1 Quote
Super User Choporoz Posted February 4, 2022 Super User Posted February 4, 2022 Never watched one streaming or even live on TV, but I do set the DVR to record anything bass fishing, so I watch some of both if it's on the DVR. I'll watch either without much preference. I did think BASS attempt to go live for 4 or 6 hours straight was a bit of a fail. They need to work on the slick MLF-like delay described by @EWREXabove ....a bit too much nothing there. I will say i really enjoyed the late season tournament ....MLF, in Minnesota, I think....where the pros didn't know where they were fishing until shortly before they got there. That was a top notch broadcast weekend. One thing that annoys me is replaying same catches over and over and over....I believe it is BASS that does it most....I get that over several hours, different viewers are popping in...but for those of us watching straight through it is very tiresome 1 Quote
crypt Posted February 4, 2022 Posted February 4, 2022 On 2/1/2022 at 10:47 AM, jbsoonerfan said: Why does it have to be MLF vs BASS? Why can't someone enjoy both? For the life of me I can't figure out why some people have drawn a line in the sand and chose to be ride or die with one trail while totally admonishing the other. Why Yamaha? Because Kawasaki doesn't make outboards. LOL if Kawasaki made an outboard it would be a Ninja boat.....I also would have one...... Quote
PressuredFishing Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 I don't really care about pro fishing or their equipment, I always find equivalents that look better quality and price wise Quote
bigfishnfreak Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 With the popularity of the sport , willing sponsors, and a field of very talented anglers, it had to expand . they have a dream of making a living fishing, the dream of free boats and new trucks are almost impossible to obtain . maybe 10 guys in the country get this. entry fees are out of this world, fuel prices and lodging and dont forget uncle SAM. Its a tuff way to make a living. it has to be the love of doing this. tight lines my 2 cents 1 Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted February 5, 2022 Super User Posted February 5, 2022 I like BASS over MLF hands down..part of it is nostalgia but mostly I like the 5 biggest fish limit format better. That said I still think MLF is worthwhile to watch. 2 Quote
padon Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Choporoz said: Never watched one streaming or even live on TV, but I do set the DVR to record anything bass fishing, so I watch some of both if it's on the DVR. I'll watch either without much preference. I did think BASS attempt to go live for 4 or 6 hours straight was a bit of a fail. They need to work on the slick MLF-like delay described by @EWREXabove ....a bit too much nothing there. I will say i really enjoyed the late season tournament ....MLF, in Minnesota, I think....where the pros didn't know where they were fishing until shortly before they got there. That was a top notch broadcast weekend. One thing that annoys me is replaying same catches over and over and over....I believe it is BASS that does it most....I get that over several hours, different viewers are popping in...but for those of us watching straight through it is very tiresome im the opposite. i wanna see the live stuff. i wanna see it as it happens with raw emotion. i still watch the slick produced MLF stuff because im a fishing addict but live is where its at for me. Quote
Kirtley Howe Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 My thoughts are 1) I like both, so I watch both when I can, especially in the winter when it is 0 degrees F outside. 2) I actually prefer MLF because it is more like how I often fish....new lake, no practice, minimal knowledge of the body of water, and I want to catch as many as I can most of the time. 3) I think MLF treat the fish better over-all, and most likely have lower delayed mortality. I also like that MLF has (overall) lower entry fees for the anglers, and a better (again, my opinion) pay out system. Quote
Super User gim Posted February 5, 2022 Super User Posted February 5, 2022 18 hours ago, DitchPanda said: I like BASS over MLF hands down..part of it is nostalgia but mostly I like the 5 biggest fish limit format better This is me too. MLF is often more of a dink fest. I will say that I prefer the immediate release of MLF over weighing fish in at a scale but BASS does a pretty darn good job of reducing mortality as much as possible. 2 Quote
detroit1 Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 To each their own. I like both, will watch both, and enjoy the differences without having to define which is better for me. Heck, i will watch walleye tourney coverage and i have never targetted walleye in 40 years. It's fishing, and marky likes. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted February 5, 2022 Global Moderator Posted February 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, detroit1 said: To each their own. I like both, will watch both, and enjoy the differences without having to define which is better for me. Heck, i will watch walleye tourney coverage and i have never targetted walleye in 40 years. It's fishing, and marky likes. Oh man I used to change the channel immediately when those walleye tournaments came on TV when I was a kid Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted February 6, 2022 Super User Posted February 6, 2022 4 hours ago, gimruis said: This is me too. MLF is often more of a dink fest. I will say that I prefer the immediate release of MLF over weighing fish in at a scale but BASS does a pretty darn good job of reducing mortality as much as possible. I always hear this dink fest deal. Did you realize the 2nd place finisher today in the BASS open on Kissimmee caught 5 fish for 9-5? Is that a slug fest to you? I like all types of fishing, but to sit there and say BPT or MLF is a dink fest while other trails aren't doing much better really makes no sense. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted February 6, 2022 Global Moderator Posted February 6, 2022 34 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said: I always hear this dink fest deal. Did you realize the 2nd place finisher today in the BASS open on Kissimmee caught 5 fish for 9-5? Is that a slug fest to you? I like all types of fishing, but to sit there and say BPT or MLF is a dink fest while other trails aren't doing much better really makes no sense. You mean the guy that caught a 9 lber on day 1? Haha. The reason he still finished second is because he had 5 for over 28 lbs on day 1 the winner, as usual, had 3 consistent bags in a row. (14, 18, and 18) Quote
Super User gim Posted February 6, 2022 Super User Posted February 6, 2022 26 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said: I always hear this dink fest deal. Did you realize the 2nd place finisher today in the BASS open on Kissimmee caught 5 fish for 9-5? Is that a slug fest to you? I like all types of fishing, but to sit there and say BPT or MLF is a dink fest while other trails aren't doing much better really makes no sense. There are definitely BASS events when the winning weight is going to be poor. It’s early February and bass don’t especially like cold temperatures like some southern states are experiencing right now. The format for MLF compared to BASS often sets up the way I described though. Is MLF still a timed period event where they are just trying to make it to the next round? The last time I saw it that was the format. Maybe it has changed. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted February 6, 2022 Super User Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, gimruis said: There are definitely BASS events when the winning weight is going to be poor. It’s early February and bass don’t especially like cold temperatures like some southern states are experiencing right now. The format for MLF compared to BASS often sets up the way I described though. Is MLF still a timed period event where they are just trying to make it to the next round? The last time I saw it that was the format. Maybe it has changed. It doesn't change the fact that most people who call MLF a dink fest have never actually paid attention to the two trails on a side by side comparison. Since I opened my fat mouth, I looked at some numbers. The top 10 in the BASS open today weighed in 47 fish for a total of 105 lbs 6 oz. An average of 2 lb 4 oz per fish. The top 10 today on the BPT event weighed in 49 fish for 137 lbs 4 oz. An average of 2 lb 13 oz per fish. Obviously both are dink fests by the math. Quote
Super User gim Posted February 6, 2022 Super User Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, jbsoonerfan said: It doesn't change the fact that most people who call MLF a dink fest have never actually paid attention to the two trails on a side by side comparison. Since I opened my fat mouth, I looked at some numbers. The top 10 in the BASS open today weighed in 47 fish for a total of 105 lbs 6 oz. An average of 2 lb 4 oz per fish. The top 10 today on the BPT event weighed in 49 fish for 137 lbs 4 oz. An average of 2 lb 13 oz per fish. Obviously both are dink fests by the math. I don’t make a point of watching MLF regularly. I just don’t care for the format. I have seen it before and many of the events were definitely a dink fest. I’m sure not all of them are that way though. Just like not every BASS event can be a slugfest. In the specific example you gave, neither one was very impressive. Gonna be some tough sledding until the weather warms up. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted February 6, 2022 Super User Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, gimruis said: I don’t make a point of watching MLF regularly. I just don’t care for the format. I have seen it before and many of the events were definitely a dink fest. I’m sure not all of them are that way though. Just like not every BASS event can be a slugfest. In the specific example you gave, neither one was very impressive. Gonna be some tough sledding until the weather warms up. That's all I want people to say. Just say you don't know enough about it to really comment on it. It would be like me watching the Chiefs play one game and score 14 points and then go telling people the Chiefs aren't really any good because their offense sucks. 1 1 Quote
Super User gim Posted February 6, 2022 Super User Posted February 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said: That's all I want people to say. Just say you don't know enough about it to really comment on it. I can’t comment on others and whether they make comparisons regularly. I can only comment on what I saw, which I will fully admit was not a lot. I didn’t care for the format and guys were hauling in one pounders after another during a timed period to advance. I don’t know enough about it now because it did not entertain me initially. That’s all I’ve got for ya on the subject. 1 Quote
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