Hulkster Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 I think it sucks that SC replaced a classic rod line like the Avid (with full cork handles) with rods that have covered EVA foam handle instead of an exposed blank reel seat on the casting models. That is something you find on an Ugly Stik. Not a good St. Croix rod. that is a huge step backwards if you ask me. 1 Quote
KP Duty Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 I think discontinuing the Avid is a mistake. I'm quite surprised. Maybe when they upgraded the mojo to the sc3 blank, the Avid should have received a blank upgrade as well. They could have even done an Avid AGS now that Daiwa is selling them guides. 1 Quote
Vilas15 Posted February 1, 2022 Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 7:09 PM, GetFishorDieTryin said: No, I think the whole Avid FW line is gone. They had the eyecons for walleye, but I'm not sure if they still make them because they were on clearance in Dec. Eyecon was updated along with BassX and panfish. They were just clearing out old models. https://stcroixrods.com/blogs/news/new-for-2022-products Also avid spinning rods are still available on their website whole the casting model is not. Theres also the avid inshore still available. Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted February 2, 2022 Posted February 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Vilas15 said: Eyecon was updated along with BassX and panfish. They were just clearing out old models. https://stcroixrods.com/blogs/news/new-for-2022-products Also avid spinning rods are still available on their website whole the casting model is not. Theres also the avid inshore still available. I saw them pushing the new panfish and bassX rods pretty hard last summer especially in the case of the bassX. I didn't hear or see anything about the eyecon. I know they didn't discontinue the entire Avid line. They just put out a new Avid Surf. The new inshore mojos had me worried about the future of the inshore avids when they debuted. I could see them updating the Inshore Avid within the next couple years, the current design is from 2018. With all the breakage issues the Mojo Inshores are having SC is going to have a hard time selling them, much less replacing a far more successful and popular line like the Ins Avids. Quote
zell_pop1 Posted February 2, 2022 Posted February 2, 2022 So no more full cork handles on St Croix? Quote
Gkitz Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 Thank you very much for choosing St. Croix and allowing us to partner with you in your angling adventures. The reimagined Legend Tournament Bass rods will be launched after the Bass Masters in March and should be available in April. Quote
Dinger0306 Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 10:46 AM, fishwizzard said: Sad to hear the Avids are gone, I have the 6'2" M/XF casting rod and love it, the best fluke rod I have found. It doesn't look like they are retaining that spec, so I guess I need to start tracking down a spare. Dude I had been looking to get one of the 6’2 casting rods and 6’3 spinning rods, Googled Avid Casting rods without any luck and now I’m here. St. Croix is one of the last manufacturers making non-flashy rods with full cork handles and shorter rods (6’-6’6”). I hate that they’re going the same direction as the other guys but I guess that’s where the money is. Guess I’m going to go ahead and order a 6’3” spinning that I’ve been eyeballing for a while. The Avid-X was pulled as soon as I was interested in one of those as well. Quote
Randy Price Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 Hate to hear about the end of the AVID line. The SC AVID was the first "real nice" rod I ever had. I topped it with a 2000 Shimano Stradic FG (I believe) and caught many fish with it. I was very proud of that rig! 1 Quote
Ryan Teach Posted May 16, 2022 Posted May 16, 2022 Long time lurker, first time poster... as you can see. To clear up any speculation, St. Croix is not discontinuing Avid. I will not go into any great detail over the plans for the series, however, I witnessed a lot of speculation to the point I need to step in. I will add that Avid casting rods were retired. As any good Packer fan knows (or Buccaneer), just like NFL quarterbacks, things can come back from retirement after a period of time and in some cases better than ever! 1 1 Quote
Hulkster Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 ok thats good to know. i was in the tackle store on the weekend and the classic Avid's still feel nicer than the Victory series at least to me. the full cork handles and the exposed blank cut away on the baitcasting models make the Avids seem more slim and possibly lighter. the foam at the reel seat is thick and makes the reel seat seem chunky. Also, whichever fuji reel seat they chose has a really short trigger piece, its like a little nub. I dunno maybe its just me. Im so used to the ECS (??) reel seat used on my Loomis rods. Quote
Jweller Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Hulkster said: ok thats good to know. i was in the tackle store on the weekend and the classic Avid's still feel nicer than the Victory series at least to me. the full cork handles and the exposed blank cut away on the baitcasting models make the Avids seem more slim and possibly lighter. the foam at the reel seat is thick and makes the reel seat seem chunky. Also, whichever fuji reel seat they chose has a really short trigger piece, its like a little nub. I dunno maybe its just me. Im so used to the ECS (??) reel seat used on my Loomis rods. I have four Victory rods and my Avids are 100x more comfortable and fun to fish with. Something just feels “off” to me. Bums me out as the Avid’s were a perfect blend of classic looking and comfortable. Also, they didn’t have a goofy naming system. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 The OG Avid blanks (SCIII) are still available in the Mojo series. Quote
Hulkster Posted May 17, 2022 Posted May 17, 2022 46 minutes ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said: The OG Avid blanks (SCIII) are still available in the Mojo series. I was under the impression that although they both contain SCIII graphite they were not the same rod blanks??? Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted May 18, 2022 Posted May 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Hulkster said: I was under the impression that although they both contain SCIII graphite they were not the same rod blanks??? That impression may originate from the mojo being made in Mexico but the factories, materials and mandrels are all identical to Park Falls. Either way they may be worth a look since things are changing. Quote
Ryan Teach Posted May 18, 2022 Posted May 18, 2022 To clear up confusion. Both Avid and Mojo use SCIII Carbon Fiber (not graphite), both are built on IPC mandrels; IPC stands for 'Infinite Poly Curve' and a very important element to both of these series. Other than origin of manufacturing, some lengths, powers, and actions, the SCIII rolled in St. Croix North is the same as the SCIII rolled at St. Croix South. 1 Quote
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