bigspirit Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 So, I ended up with a Fury 795 and a Cardiff 301 for a good deal I couldn’t pass up. I’ve done some searching on here but not sure I have the answer I’m looking for… so, getting into swimbaits I want a somewhat budget like instead of getting AbrasX or the Sunline Defier Armillo, at least for now. I have a bulk spool of 20lb big game but worried about the stretch. I’ve heard a lot of good things about the Yozuri hybrid but I’ve never used a copoly or hybrid line. My small startup box includes a couple glide baits, a wake bait, and a Matt lures blue gill and Huddleston 68. I know my setup isn’t ideal for single hook baits but I figured if I swing for the fences with a line that doesn’t stretch as much as mono I can make it work enough to get me into the game. So, I’ve heard to go by diameter on the hybrid. Instead of 20lb AbrasX (.016”) should I go to the equal size yozuri which would be 15lb? I understand size difference, but is there a strength difference? Is this a bad choice for glides and wake baits? Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 23, 2022 Super User Posted January 23, 2022 25 lb/.016D Armillo filler spool will fill your reel perfectly, good line for your combo. Tom 4 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted January 23, 2022 Super User Posted January 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, bigspirit said: So, I’ve heard to go by diameter on the hybrid You should go by diameter with all lines. 20 BG will work fine, 25 or 30 might be better under some conditions. Any good mono or copoly will work. Don't worry about stretch, as you go up in lb test, it is less and less of an issue. 3 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted January 23, 2022 Super User Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, bigspirit said: So, I ended up with a Fury 795 and a Cardiff 301 2 hours ago, bigspirit said: I have a bulk spool of 20lb big game but worried about the stretch 20lb Big game on "that" particular rod will have the gusto for the size jig hook baits you're likely to throw in Iowa, and enough stretch for larger treble hook baits, 168s, etc. It's not a rubberband like XL. Since you already own it you should use it without feeling like you're taking a risk. Tie a good knot and don't worry about it. There are higher tests available obviously, but 20lb Big Game is remarkably strong line. I haven't broken off once with it, and I'm usually swinging on them like a fool, then fighting them back through stupidly thick weeds. 3 Quote
bigspirit Posted January 23, 2022 Author Posted January 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, PhishLI said: 20lb Big game on "that" particular rod will have the gusto for the size jig hook baits you're likely to throw in Iowa, and enough stretch for larger treble hook baits, 168s, etc. It's not a rubberband like XL. Since you already own it you should use it without feeling like you're taking a risk. Tie a good knot and don't worry about it. There are higher tests available obviously, but 20lb Big Game is remarkably strong line. I haven't broken off once with it, and I'm usually swinging on them like a fool, then fighting them back through stupidly thick weeds. Awesome, after y’all’s responses I’m definitely going to just start with my BG. I should probably update my profile…I’m in Georgia now but as strong as the 20BG is it should still be plenty. I know I’ve been snagged using it in saltwater and pulled up a small crab pot before but was worried about stretch. Sounds like I just need to spool it up and let it rip 1 Quote
Jp_midwest Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 what baits are you planning to fish?i fish all my glides on pline flouroclear 20 lbs which is a co poly i like it but im planning to switch to a true flouro this season. it just all depends what your going to fish really. normally guys use flouro really for soft baits like citizens and hard baits like glides, but then some guys also like using monos and copolys for glides and top waters due to the stretch factor and a lot of guys use big game and izorline XXX which i do want to try. so just think about it but most swimbait guys as a rule of thumb go with flouro. also ive heard the dobyns 795 is a more parabolic rod maybe you might want to a flouro line due to that there is less stretch and maybe with mono it is possible that you wont get the best hook penetration. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 25, 2022 Super User Posted January 25, 2022 On 1/23/2022 at 1:59 PM, bigspirit said: My small startup box includes a couple glide baits, a wake bait, and a Matt lures blue gill and Huddleston 68. I use 20 lb. CXX for these baits. 1 Quote
Bass Rutten Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 I second p-line cxx, I’d go with the 15lb for lures under 3oz, it’s the equivalent diameter of most 20lb lines at .40mm. 1 Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted January 25, 2022 Super User Posted January 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Bassjam2000 said: I second p-line cxx, I’d go with the 15lb for lures under 3oz, it’s the equivalent diameter of most 20lb lines at .40mm. I think you'd need to gauge that on the lakes you fish. It's not unusual for a big fish to dive into the thickest weeds with at least a big treble hook or two left out to snag a huge mound of weeds. This happened to me last summer on a slob while using 50lb straight braid. Bent out the rear treble on a G2 and lost the fish on a jump. I can't say for sure, but I'm just about positive 15lb anything would've popped in this situation. 2 Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 26, 2022 Super User Posted January 26, 2022 FYI P-Line CXX Copolymer line 15# is .016D same diameter as 25# Armillo .016D. Used CXX in the 90’s with mixed results and preferred Big Game until changing to Armillo 5 years ago that is very smooth long casting Nylon mono with excellent knot strength, impact and abrasion resistance. Tom 1 Quote
bigspirit Posted January 26, 2022 Author Posted January 26, 2022 24 minutes ago, WRB said: FYI P-Line CXX Copolymer line 15# is .016D same diameter as 25# Armillo .016D. Used CXX in the 90’s with mixed results and preferred Big Game until changing to Armillo 5 years ago that is very smooth long casting Nylon mono with excellent knot strength, impact and abrasion resistance. Tom Tom, I think I’m sold on the Armilo if I’m going to stick with the swimbaits. I don’t have anywhere to get it by me so I’d have to order. So, I’m going to start out with some big game and then order some new line after putting some time in with it Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 26, 2022 Super User Posted January 26, 2022 19 minutes ago, bigspirit said: Tom, I think I’m sold on the Armilo if I’m going to stick with the swimbaits. I don’t have anywhere to get it by me so I’d have to order. So, I’m going to start out with some big game and then order some new line after putting some time in with it 20# Big Game works, use what you have. Tom 1 Quote
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