Super User Deleted account Posted January 22, 2022 Super User Posted January 22, 2022 2 hours ago, billmac said: I love being unique! So does this guy I'm sure... 1 1 Quote
billmac Posted January 22, 2022 Author Posted January 22, 2022 Some people follow the fashion, others set the fashion. Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 22, 2022 Super User Posted January 22, 2022 Bait casting reels are what we think of discussing gear ratios. Spinning reels not so much because they have larger spool diameters the IPT (line per inch recovered per handle turn) is faster. Spinning reels have remained the same for decades between 5:1 & 6:1. Do you know the gear ratio of your spinning reel? Tom Quote
Super User T-Billy Posted January 22, 2022 Super User Posted January 22, 2022 7 hours ago, detroit1 said: I have tried slow - rolling with little sucess, so i don't even bother. Try it after dark with a big single colorado blade. Quote
billmac Posted January 22, 2022 Author Posted January 22, 2022 This just in: My 4 main BC reels are a 7.1:1, 7.2:1, and (2) 6.4:1. 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 23, 2022 Super User Posted January 23, 2022 46 minutes ago, billmac said: This just in: My 4 main BC reels are a 7.1:1, 7.2:1, and (2) 6.4:1. My six BCs run - 6.3:1, 7.1:1, 7.1:1, 7.9:1, 8.1:1, 8.3:1 1 hour ago, WRB said: Spinning reels have remained the same for decades between 5:1 & 6:1. Do you know the gear ratio of your spinning reel? Tom Why yes. Tom.... Boat reels 5.2:1, 5.4:1, 5.4:1, 6.2:1, 6.2:1 (22.0, 22.4, 25.0, 31.0, 31.8 IPT respectively) Shore/panfish reels 5.4:1, 5,4:1, 6.2:1 (22.0, 29.0, 31.0 IPT) Quote
Aaron_H Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, TnRiver46 said: I literally opened this thread just now specifically to post that video. At least someone did it! I can only reiterate what others have said, I care about gear ratio/IPT depending on the technique I'm throwing. I find 7:1 to be a fair middle ground that is easy to speed up or slow down with if I want something more universal. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 23, 2022 Global Moderator Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Aaron_H said: I literally opened this thread just now specifically to post that video. At least someone did it! I can only reiterate what others have said, I care about gear ratio/IPT depending on the technique I'm throwing. I find 7:1 to be a fair middle ground that is easy to speed up or slow down with if I want something more universal. Hahahahahah! Glad I could help, can’t stop singing it now Quote
steve-pierce Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 10 hours ago, Big-Bass said: In 1952 with the introduction of the Abu Ambassadeur 5000 (red reel), the modern baitcasting reel was using a 3.8:1 gear ratio. It had bushings and I have some from the 1950s and 1960s that I collect that can still launch a bait but are very slow in retrieve by modern standards. In about 1966, Abu released the 5000C (black reel) that just featured bearings instead of bushings. In 1972, Abu launched the high speed 5500C in at 4.7:1 with the circular right plate sticker that said "High Speed" and it was the quickest reel at the time. Even the first Lew's made by Shimano in the late 70s had a 3.8:1 gear ratio until Lew Childre moved production to Ryobi in the early 1980s and they upped the gears to 4.7:1. They made BB1, then BB1N, then BB1NG (gold), then BB1NGH (gold high which came in 5.3:1). With the narrow "V" spool of the Lew's, the IPT increased even though the gear ratio didn't. Throughout the 1980s, Daiwa, Shimano, and then later Abu used 5.3:1 reels in their lineup as their speedier models. One exception was made in 1987/88. Daiwa introduced the PT33SH which was 7.1:1 and stayed in production until 2015/2016. It was fast but didn't have alot of power in the gearing. 6.3:1 became a mainstay in the early 1990s with Daiwa's TD1Hi and TD1Hi Tournament reels. Abu had the Pro Max, Black Max, SM round reels in 1600, 3600, 5600, and 6600 that all "caught up" with 6.3:1. Shimano had the Chronarch, Curado, Coriolis, etc. In the early 2000s, 7:1 reels were the new hot thing until they became "average speed in the early 2010s with 8, 9, and now 10:1 reels. Sorry for the history lesson but anything in the 5.3:1 - 8:1 will cover all most all bases for all baits. Best wishes on the water! Those old reels had to be slow when you were fishing with lures called Lazy Ikes 2 Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted January 23, 2022 Super User Posted January 23, 2022 I don't always give it alot of thought but I wouldn't frog with a crank bait reel or vise versa. One thing guys arent really taking into account is inches per turn. Take a slow Abu Garcia c3 5500..ipt is 26. Most low profile bait casters with a7 to 1 ratio have like a 28ipt. That's not much different. 1 Quote
Super User Cgolf Posted January 23, 2022 Super User Posted January 23, 2022 Nope, I always watch the bait coming back to the boat and dial in how fast I reel to get the bait moving at the speed I want. I do have a couple of higher speed reels I paired with my lipless and spinnerbait rods. Then I found an old Black Max 3600 at an estate sale and put it on my lipless rod and it balanced perfectly and that turned out to be one sweet reel, my new favorite in fact. So my lipless rod went from my fastest reel to my slowest lol and I couldn’t be happier. 1 Quote
steve-pierce Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, DitchPanda said: I don't always give it alot of thought but I wouldn't frog with a crank bait reel or vise versa. One thing guys arent really taking into account is inches per turn. Take a slow Abu Garcia c3 5500..ipt is 26. Most low profile bait casters with a7 to 1 ratio have like a 28ipt. That's not much I'm guessing the spools are larger on the old reels? Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted January 23, 2022 Super User Posted January 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, steve-pierce said: I'm guessing the spools are larger on the old reels? Correct My point is IPT is the real measurement Quote
steve-pierce Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, DitchPanda said: Correct My point is IPT is the real measurement I understand that and have to change my walking cadence as the lure gets closer to the boat because there is more line on the reel but I think most reel comparisons are assuming newer compact reels head to head Quote
RB 77 Posted January 23, 2022 Posted January 23, 2022 On this website?... You're probably not the only one, but you would be on a short list! Haha. I definitely want lower gear ratios for cranks and spinnerbaits, etc and definitely want higher ones for worms and jigs, etc. I think 99% of my stuff is either 5.0:1, 6.2:1 or 7.0:1. Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 23, 2022 Super User Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, MN Fisher said: My six BCs run - 6.3:1, 7.1:1, 7.1:1, 7.9:1, 8.1:1, 8.3:1 Why yes. Tom.... Boat reels 5.2:1, 5.4:1, 5.4:1, 6.2:1, 6.2:1 (22.0, 22.4, 25.0, 31.0, 31.8 IPT respectively) Shore/panfish reels 5.4:1, 5,4:1, 6.2:1 (22.0, 29.0, 31.0 IPT) Good memory Tom 1 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 23, 2022 Super User Posted January 23, 2022 Just now, WRB said: Good memory Tom Excel spreadsheet. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 23, 2022 Global Moderator Posted January 23, 2022 I dont know what gear ratio any of my reels are. You figure it out after a cast or three 2 Quote
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