BlakeMolone Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 Has anyone tried this stuff out yet? Saw it at Walmart yesterday, I will probably pick up a spool the next time and see how it goes regardless. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 21, 2022 Super User Posted January 21, 2022 I know a couple guys are looking at it...haven't heard anything yet on results. 1 Quote
BlakeMolone Posted January 21, 2022 Author Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, MN Fisher said: I know a couple guys are looking at it...haven't heard anything yet on results. I think I’m gonna give it a shot, I hate trying new line and never really fish flouro but I think it’s time to give it another shot. Anyone know if I will be okay using a palamor knot with floro? Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 21, 2022 Super User Posted January 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, BlakeMolone said: Anyone know if I will be okay using a palamor knot with floro? Take care when tying it on FC - don't let the line cross itself in the knot. IMO: Uni would be a better knot for FC. Quote
Big Rick Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 1 hour ago, BlakeMolone said: Anyone know if I will be okay using a palamor knot with floro? A forum search will net you 7 bazillion differing opinions on this subject. It all comes down to the ability to tie a knot correctly. Many use a Palomar Knot on all line types with no issues. I am in that camp. I fish with 6-25 lb. fluorocarbon using a Palomar with no issues. YMMV 4 Quote
FishinBuck07 Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 Palomar knot is fine as long as the line doesn't cross itself, and you wet it down before pulling tight. I have been using the San Diego jam knot the past two years, going to try the double Pitzen knot this year and see how that works also! 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted January 21, 2022 Super User Posted January 21, 2022 Like stated above, just tie it properly and don’t cross your lines and you’ll be fine. Recent data from Sunline confirmed the strength and consistency of the Palomar knot in fluorocarbon compared to other popular knots. 2 Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted January 21, 2022 Super User Posted January 21, 2022 I have two spools enroute. 12 and 15 lb. I’m optimistic that this product will be a good value based line. Seagar doesn’t want a bummer. 1 Quote
tander Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 Been using Sunline Sniper for a looong time. Use the Double San Diego jam knot, I learned it as the Jimmy Houston knot in the 80's, never has a knob to turn loose or break at the knot. Quote
jbrew73 Posted January 21, 2022 Posted January 21, 2022 3 hours ago, BlakeMolone said: I think I’m gonna give it a shot, I hate trying new line and never really fish flouro but I think it’s time to give it another shot. Anyone know if I will be okay using a palamor knot with floro? As someone that doesn’t use flouro you may be disappointed in this line considering it is a low cost offering. I hope you like it and report to us with good feedback. Quote
sbhall Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 Seagar Fluorocarbon lines on my reels. I was thinking of trying this budget option. The palamor knot has been my go to. I’ve never had an issue with it on fluorocarbon line. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 A properly tied Palomar knot is a very reliable knot for fluorocarbon. I've been able to mess around with 6# Basix. It decent line. I haven't really been able to fish it yet. Quote
johnmyers Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 Trilene knot works very well and I think that is what Zona shows on You Tube as his floro knot Quote
Super User FishTank Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 I like Seaguar lines but this is a tuff one for me. On one hand, you introduce a budget line and you get it right, you have some happy new customers that will branch out to other product lines but on the other hand, do it wrong and you could loose that customer. Setting the customer expectations would be critical. FC is always a touch and go subject with some anglers. They could have called it sinking mono, charged the same price and most people wouldn't have known the difference. Guys that fish mono would probably be praising it. FC users might be indifferent to it. My hope is Seaguar got it right and they have a winner but more often than not, when a cheaper line is introduced by any company, it doesn't stay around long. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, FishTank said: My hope is Seaguar got it right and they have a winner but more often than not, when a cheaper line is introduced by any company, it doesn't stay around long. Abrasx??? This isn't their first rodeo with lower cost lines. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, J Francho said: Abrasx??? This isn't their first rodeo with lower cost lines. That's what I was thinking but didn't want to call out their past lines that went by the way side. How about Kanzen and Senshi? I thought Abrazx was one of their more expensive lines. I use it on my heavy jig set up. It usually runs around $25 a spool or more. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, FishTank said: I thought Abrazx was one of their more expensive lines. I use it on my heavy jig set up. It usually runs around $25 a spool or more. Red Label and AbrazX were their bottom lines...I could get AbrazX from Fleet Farm for $20 a spool...Red Label for $15 But since FF also has InvizX for $20 a spool for 12# and under - I just go with that. I tried AbrazX once - stripped it off the reel after only one trip and went with InvizX...now the rest of the AbrazX spool is delegated to leader material. Quote
BassHRL119 Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 I have one or two outings using some 8LB basix and I like it so far. Feels like higher end stuff. We will see how long it lasts and if there are any knot issues. I use palomar knots to bait/hooks. I also have some 15lb on my pitching set up. Haven't used it yet, other than a few practice casts from my dock. But again, it feels nice. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: Red Label and AbrazX were their bottom lines...I could get AbrazX from Fleet Farm for $20 a spool...Red Label for $15 But since FF also has InvizX for $20 a spool for 12# and under - I just go with that. I tried AbrazX once - stripped it off the reel after only one trip and went with InvizX...now the rest of the AbrazX spool is delegated to leader material. Tatsu is my favorite but Invizx has been my go between. Red Label for me was not the greatest. It had all the characteristics of FC that I dislike. Abrazx, I don't like it for Texas rigged soft plastic but I do like it for pitching and flipping jigs around cover. Never had any issues with it. AbrazX at BPS is $32. From what I remember it's always been more than InvizX and positioned below Tatsu in price. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, FishTank said: AbrazX at BPS is $32. From what I remember it's always been more than InvizX and positioned below Tatsu in price. Another reason to shop elsewhere. Unless they don't carry it (Tatsu, YZH) I get all my line from Fleet Farm - their regular prices are often lower than other's sale prices. Free shipping - no minimum purchase either - on most of their fishing lines. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, MN Fisher said: Another reason to shop elsewhere. Unless they don't carry it (Tatsu, YZH) I get all my line from Fleet Farm - their regular prices are often lower than other's sale prices. Not a huge BPS fan either. Just used it for reference. I will have to check these guys out. Good bargain by the way. Thanks Quote
Super User ChrisD46 Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, J Francho said: Abrasx??? This isn't their first rodeo with lower cost lines. Red Lable FC is the current Seaguar budget FC line ... The better comparison would be between the Seaguar Red Lable and the new Basix FC . All lower line sizes of the Basix correspond to the higher price point InvizX - except the Basix #6 lb. is .009 putting it just slightly thicker than the #6 lb. .008 diameter InvizX . Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 You're right - I was thinking of Red Label, not Abrasx. My point stands, it is not their first time offering a low cost line. 1 hour ago, FishTank said: How about Kanzen and Senshi? Or Rippin' Mono and Finesse Fluoro? All four were excellent products that didn't catch on. What is your point? Do you think companies should STOP trying new things? Sounds kind of boring. Seaguar has been on the leading edge for years, and still innovative. Quote
Super User FishTank Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 They should press on but cautiously. Too many good lines (and some bad ones) have been eliminated or reformulated just because they didn't meet people's expectations. That's why I said setting customer's expectations was critical. In other words, they shouldn't over sell it. Just in case I do work in a marketing firm. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 10, 2022 Super User Posted March 10, 2022 It's $10 fluoro and is meant for beginning/casual anglers that maybe don't want/can't to spend $40+ on line. I see it as a good/better/best type of deal. 1 Quote
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