bigspirit Posted January 15, 2022 Posted January 15, 2022 Is this a bad idea? Would spool with 20lb flouro more than likely. I imagine most of my fishing will be moderate distance. Not bombing them as far as I can, more of fishing around specific structure. side note, is the 806 a doable rod for baits such as the osprey talon, trash fish, and maybe a Huddleston? I know it’s not the best because of the action, but with a solid hook set is it manageable or a waste of time 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted January 15, 2022 Super User Posted January 15, 2022 Rod and reel, GTG, line choice, not so much... Quote
bigspirit Posted January 16, 2022 Author Posted January 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Deleted account said: Rod and reel, GTG, line choice, not so much... Need to go up to 25? Or braid? Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 16, 2022 Super User Posted January 16, 2022 Butch Brown uses 20 lb FC! The Shimano Trans 200 is an excellent reel, the only issue is line capacity. 110 yards of 14 lb mono or .015 D line limits your ability to make longer cast. 300 size would be a better choice imo. I don’t like using braid with swimbaits, some do using a leader. 50 lb braid would increase the line capacity. Tom 2 Quote
bigspirit Posted January 16, 2022 Author Posted January 16, 2022 12 hours ago, WRB said: Butch Brown uses 20 lb FC! The Shimano Trans 200 is an excellent reel, the only issue is line capacity. 110 yards of 14 lb mono or .025 D line limits your ability to make longer cast. 300 size would be a better choice imo. I don’t like using braid with swimbaits, some do using a leader. 50 lb braid would increase the line capacity. Tom Tom, the line capacity was my worry because of the specs for 14lb. Worries me that it would only hold 80 or so of 20lb. I’ve actually been a huge fan of braid to leader on just about all of my rods. But I’ve never owned or cast large swimbaits. I know the 300 size would be much better in that regard but for weight and cost was hoping a 200 would work for me. I could go to the 300 Curado though for the same price as the 200 Tranx so maybe that’s what I need to do Quote
Super User ATA Posted January 16, 2022 Super User Posted January 16, 2022 13 hours ago, WRB said: 300 size would be a better choice same here, I vote for 300 Quote
Super User Solution WRB Posted January 16, 2022 Super User Solution Posted January 16, 2022 14 lb mono .015D, typo not .025. Sunline Defier Armillo 25# is .016D and 300 size reels hold 165 yd filler spool. Trans is a rock solid reel ideally suited for heavy lures like Swimbaits.If you like braid to leader That solves your line capacity issue. Tom 1 Quote
softwateronly Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 On 1/16/2022 at 9:05 AM, bigspirit said: Tom, the line capacity was my worry because of the specs for 14lb. Worries me that it would only hold 80 or so of 20lb. I’ve actually been a huge fan of braid to leader on just about all of my rods. But I’ve never owned or cast large swimbaits. I know the 300 size would be much better in that regard but for weight and cost was hoping a 200 would work for me. I could go to the 300 Curado though for the same price as the 200 Tranx so maybe that’s what I need to do The Curado 300 is a solid, well built reel and would give you the line capacity to keep ipt rather consistent. I have mine on an 806 and it's very comfortable. That said, the Tatula 300 is well worth the extra $70 imho. scott 1 Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted January 18, 2022 Super User Posted January 18, 2022 I agree about the 300 Tatula being worth the extra $ 70.00. I looked at the Curado, as I use to have a 301 E7 that I loved, imho the Tatula is very close to the performance of the E7. 1 Quote
bigspirit Posted January 18, 2022 Author Posted January 18, 2022 Awesome; thanks for the info guys Quote
Big Hands Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 I had a 400 Tranx for a year on a Phenix 869H with 25 lb line for my swimbait rig. It was a beast and in hindsight was on the overkill side. I ended up getting rid of it, which is a rare thing for me to do. I think an 8' rod that had a lower power rating than the 869 I had, with a 300 size Shimano with 20 lb fluoro, would be a sweet spot for as big of a swimbait as I am willing to throw. As WRB mentioned, that is what BB throws (on the same water I fish) and if it's what he uses to crank in the monsters he does with that rig, it would certainly be good enough for my needs. I say 300 size Shimano reels (for me) because when I was originally looking at these rigs I found that the Daiwa 300 equivalents were closer to the size of a 400. That is in the area where reels start to get to be a handful and if I can fish with something more compact, that is going to be a big plus for me. I like Daiwa reels, and own several, but that size penalty of their 300's is a deal killer for me, but YMMV. The other thing is that the Tranx 200 drag is rated at 13 lbs compared to 18-22 lbs for the 300 size. If you envision yourself playing these large bass, you should probably also envision yourself losing several of them as well. Water skiing a ten plus pounder across the surface with heavy line tied to a heavy swimbait isn't what we dream of, but that is what will get them into the boat, so you should have your drag pretty much locked down and try to get them directly into the net if possible. The bottom line is that I don't think a 200 is going to have the line capacity or drag you'll need for 20 lb fluoro and cranking in big bass on big swimbaits. JMHO. Quote
bigspirit Posted January 20, 2022 Author Posted January 20, 2022 @Big Hands, thanks for the info! That’s really good to know about the Daiwa size reels. I think that’d be a bit bigger than what I’m looking for right now! My current heaviest setup is a 7’ 5” Heavy rated .5-1.5. I feel if I go that big I’ll have a gap in there where I feel like a lot of common baits fit in. Now that I’ve thought more about it, I’m starting to question if 806 is the right rod. Thinking I may need to start smaller and work my way up Quote
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