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The article didn’t mention what lure they were using…….. I’m asking for crime research 

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Unfortunately most states will just give them the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. We need to get the laws changed to make the punishment more severe.

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4 minutes ago, Deleted account said:

 

No, That would be 153, John 21:11

I just looked that up. Did you know that off the top of your head?

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2 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Unfortunately most states will just give them the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. We need to get the laws changed to make the punishment more severe.

This is exactly right.  I'll vote for you.  

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20 minutes ago, BigAngus752 said:

This is exactly right.  I'll vote for you.  

I'd never get elected for a couple reasons...I wouldn't take bribes (campaign contributions) from big money and I'd listen to the normal folks.

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2 hours ago, Skunkmaster-k said:

I just looked that up. Did you know that off the top of your head?

I would say yes, but then I'd have to go to confession :) .

I had to check to make sure I wasn't conflating With Matthew on feeding the masses.

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6 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Unfortunately most states will just give them the equivalent of a slap on the wrist. We need to get the laws changed to make the punishment more severe.

In the deer hunting realm here, the DNR has adopted a zero tolerance policy when caught using bait. First offense, you lose your weapon and hunting privileges for a year. It has cut down on the number of baiting violations immensely. I say incorporate some of these zero tolerance policies on other violations too. We all know there are a lot of hunters and anglers breaking the law that never get caught because there simply isn’t enough manpower or enforcement, so let’s make an example out the people who get caught.

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4 minutes ago, gimruis said:

We all know there are a lot of hunters and anglers breaking the law that never get caught because there simply isn’t enough manpower or enforcement, so let’s make an example out the people who get caught.

A good start would be to increase the fines...Currently it's $50 for the first over limit and $25 for each additional. Put it at $100 per fish and put that money into hiring more COs.

 

https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/scao_library/Statewide Payables/2020-DNR-Payables-List.pdf

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1 minute ago, MN Fisher said:

A good start would be to increase the fines...Currently it's $50 for the first over limit and $25 for each additional. Put it at $100 per fish and put that money into hiring more COs.

 

https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/scao_library/Statewide Payables/2020-DNR-Payables-List.pdf

I agree, beefing up the fines would be a good start.

 

I will say that I think there is a big difference between someone who is knowingly breaking the law and someone who is making a minor mistake that they were not aware of though. Obviously in this specific case, these guys were clearly doing it on purpose and went way over board.

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Just now, gimruis said:

I will say that I think there is a big difference between someone who is knowingly breaking the law and someone who is making a minor mistake that they were not aware of though.

If they don't know the limits, they shouldn't be out. No excuses far as I'm concerned...everyone treated the same.

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25 minutes ago, Skunkmaster-k said:

We have plenty of game wardens. 

We have 186 Conservation Officers to patrol 11,842 lakes and 8,100 miles of rivers and streams...I think we're a little short.

 

13 new COs join the force

https://www.startribune.com/arriving-at-a-heightened-time-new-conservation-officers-open-up-about-their-outdoors-lives/600007978/

 

Lake and River totals (near the bottom of this page)

https://www.gamewardenedu.org/minnesota/

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4 minutes ago, Skunkmaster-k said:

Now I want to move to Minnesota. You got a spare room for rent?
 

Ummm...I might have a corner in the basement free. Have to share it with the furnace though...the concrete floor is cold, so are the cinder-block walls. there's no window and only one electrical outlet.

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6 hours ago, Jigfishn10 said:

It has to be 25 years since I saw a game warden, That was back in the day when your license had to be visible.

I have literally never seen a conservation officer here in Minnesota.  I have hunted on public land for almost 30 years and fished popular lakes and rivers for 20. The only law enforcement I have encountered is the Hennepin County Water Patrol on Lake Minnetonka who are primarily looking for safety violations and drunk boaters.

 

We need like a crap load more officers up here.

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18 hours ago, gimruis said:

I agree, beefing up the fines would be a good start.

 

I will say that I think there is a big difference between someone who is knowingly breaking the law and someone who is making a minor mistake that they were not aware of though. Obviously in this specific case, these guys were clearly doing it on purpose and went way over board.

Definitely.  If you want a crime to stop, people have to not want the consequences.

 

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5 hours ago, Choporoz said:

Why are they 'unidentified anglers'?

 

Their names should have been all caps, bold type

MORONS

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