Possible Fluorocarbon suggestions

[Mobasser]

6 minutes ago, Team9nine said:

 

 

Try 6# InvizX or Tatsu to start and see if it will get you the strength you need for the presentations you want to try. Another recommendation  is to use it (fluoro) on a larger size spinning reel (2500/3000) of some sort as that will help with handling. Try to avoid the little 1000 size reels, etc. with the tiny spools. I've been using fluoro for 10 years now and have never once used line conditioner. Not saying it wouldn't help, it's just not a necessity, IMO, if your setup is good from the beginning. I once landed a 44# flathead fished on straight 8# Seaguar InvizX on a spinning outfit with shaky head. Took over 1 hour to land, but that gives you an idea of what a good fluoro setup is capable of handling.

I can see the benefits of flouro lines especially clear water, lighter stuff. My reels are Lew's size 200 and Shimano size 2500, so, it should work out good. Thanks for the helpful info Team9nine. 

 

[Lead Head]

Sniper, or invizx are your best bet. As mentioned previously, you should probably go up a size compared to what you typically use in mono (line diameter will be the same or possibly smaller). Pay extra attention to your knots and confirm that you are using one that plays well with FC.

 

I prefer Sniper over Invizx but they are pretty similar, I would suggest going with the one that you find the best price on.

 

If the price of Tatsu is a non-issue for you just go that route and be done with it. 

 

As always, my advice is if you can't get along with one of these three, fluorocarbon probably isn't for you.

[fishinNWA]

I am gonna throw a curveball in the mix, I have heard some people say that Berkley vanish is not good. But in all honesty I like the line, its good for cranking in my personal experience, not to say that's right lol. So maybe something out of the box to try

[Skunkmaster-k]

17 minutes ago, fishinNWA said:

I am gonna throw a curveball in the mix, I have heard some people say that Berkley vanish is not good. But in all honesty I like the line, its good for cranking in my personal experience, not to say that's right lol. So maybe something out of the box to try

I use it on my baitcasters , and haven’t ever had a problem. 

[Mike L]

I tried InvisX and liked it until I tried Sniper and never went back.

It was just a little to stretchy for my tastes. 
I use either Sniper or Shooter depending on what I’m throwing where on all combos except 3.
 

Tatsu however is the best flouro on the market. 
 

 

 

 

Mike

[Hammer 4]

3 hours ago, Mike L said:

I tried InvisX and liked it until I tried Sniper and never went back.

It was just a little to stretchy for my tastes. 
I use either Sniper or Shooter depending on what I’m throwing where on all combos except 3.
 

Tatsu however is the best flouro on the market. 
 

 

 

 

Mike

I'm going to have to agree with Mike. I found that Sunline Sniper is just a tad bit more manageable. This after using Invisx for about 3 years. 

[Lead Head]

Personal experience is all important. If you guys are happy with vanish, that's awesome. I really wish I could find a floro I am happy with at that price point, but all my experiences with vanish have been... less than satisfactory. So much so that I hate to see it suggested to someone wanting to try floro for the first time. In my personal experience, the other lines suggested in this post (Sniper, invizx, and tatsu) are so far ahead of vanish that it isn't even fair to compare them. This is all just my opinion however, so keep that in mind.

 

Having said all that, keep in mind all the suggested lines come with the positives and negatives of fluorocarbon. It is just my opinion that the negatives are subtle with the more expensive lines, and glaringly obvious with the cheaper line.

[Junk Fisherman]

P-Line Fluoro is $14 for 250 yards on TW right now.  I bought 10 and 12 lb for jerks and cranks.   Solid line for a baitcaster and a gread deal at $7 to fill up a reel.  

[Spankey]

19 hours ago, Mobasser said:

I have been interested in trying flouro again. I tried Seagaur red lable on one spinning setup with poor results. I may try some of the suggestions here. My thing is  being able to manage flouro easily. I want to try a light flouro of 6 or 8llb rating for clear water with smaller soft plastics.                     I've read many reviews of various flouro lines, and if we believe all the manufacturer s clams, they of course are all the best. I've fished mono lines all my life, with very little problems. If I can find a flouro line that manages well on dpin gear, I'd probably like it.

Like you I never got good results with it on spinning gear. That experiment was many moons ago. As of the last few years my mono choices have been working great SunLine, Stren and XL. 

[Chaos10691]

I’m gonna recommend Sunline Assassin. I love all the Sunline I’ve used but Assassin has a tad more stretch than Sniper so it’s what I use for cranking. That being said I like Seaguar Invisx a lot too. Assassin can be had for around $20 a spool on Amazon I believe and maybe even cheaper on EBay.

[FishTank]

I have tried several for crankbaits. Including > Sunline Assasin, Sunline Sniper, Seaguar Tatsu, Seaguar Invizx,  Seaguar Red Label, Trilene XL and regular 100% FC, Gamma, Daiwa Samuri and P-line.  

 

For crankbaits Invizx hits the Goldilocks zone.  Softer than most FC but not too soft, knot strength is on par for its diameter,  and it holds up pretty well.  With that said, it's not my favorite line for crankbaits.  Sunline Defier mono has been go to for the past few years.

[Skunkmaster-k]

5 hours ago, Lead Head said:

Personal experience is all important. If you guys are happy with vanish, that's awesome. I really wish I could find a floro I am happy with at that price point, but all my experiences with vanish have been... less than satisfactory. So much so that I hate to see it suggested to someone wanting to try floro for the first time. In my personal experience, the other lines suggested in this post (Sniper, invizx, and tatsu) are so far ahead of vanish that it isn't even fair to compare them. This is all just my opinion however, so keep that in mind.

 

Having said all that, keep in mind all the suggested lines come with the positives and negatives of fluorocarbon. It is just my opinion that the negatives are subtle with the more expensive lines, and glaringly obvious with the cheaper line.

What problems did you have with Vanish? 

[Fat Ika]

On 1/6/2022 at 7:25 AM, Spankey said:

Guys have had great results with Monos and Co-poly lines from SunLine and McCoy.  Along with XT , XL and Big Game. 
 

Have a new dedicated crankbaits setup.  Was thinking about doing an 8# spooling of a fluoro. Not really interested in braid with leader. Looking for a few Fluoro suggestions. I do see in a lot of post y’all mention Seagar. 
 

In the past fluoro generally turned out to be a real hassle. Nightmares. Thought maybe I could be steered in a better direction. Crankbait weights will be 3/8 to 1/2 oz. Don’t see exceeding that. Don’t see trying to throw under 5/16 oz. 
 

Appreciate any opinions. Trying to avoid any frustrations. Being thrown on an Abu Rod and a REVO SX. Willing to give something a chance. Have to believe fluoro has came along way also.  Thanks. 

Tatsu, Sniper, Assassin, Shooter, Abrasx, Invisx, Gamma. Out of all those, Sniper & Assassin worked for me the best and I stuck with that for years..........good line management and abrasion resistance. Stopped using Assassin due to too much kink breakage and knot slippage with smaller diameter Assassin. Still use Sniper, but I'm really enjoying this past year with Daiwa Samurai. For me, the biggest advantage again, Samurai seems to be more resistance to kink breakage from casting accidents/backlashes. 

[RDB]

I use fluoro on everything baitcaster except for flipping & frog (braid) and topwater (mono) and have never had any issues.  Fluoro can be more difficult to manage on spinning reels and there I use braid to fluoro.  As far as brands, just get a good quality fluoro and you should be fine.  I use Sniper and Tatsu but have tried them all.  As far as storing, fluoro shouldn’t be something you have to baby.  I have a few 1000 yard spools in the closet that are probably 3 years old and they are fine.  I personally don’t use line conditioner.  If I get some memory, I may give a light stretch to the first 10 yards.  One hang up or fish fight and the stretch from that will remove most/all of the memory.

[Lead Head]

@Skunkmaster-k

My experience with vanish.

Random knot failure using a knot I can't remember ever failing with the more expensive FC.

High memory, even by FC standards. 

Almost any subtle wear or kink would fail the line very quickly. 

 

Like I said, it felt to me like all the common negatives usually associated with FC were greatly exaggerated. It required too much of my attention, I would easily prefer mono over it. 

It wasn't impossible to use, just that for me, the negatives outweighed the positives. 

For the other lines, the positives outweighed the negatives. 

[TcRoc]

While I’m going to give Tatsu a try.. I’ve been very happy with Yozuri Hybrid

[ike8120]

I have been using KK Kovert without any issues.

[Skunkmaster-k]

16 hours ago, Lead Head said:

@Skunkmaster-k

My experience with vanish.

Random knot failure using a knot I can't remember ever failing with the more expensive FC.

High memory, even by FC standards. 

Almost any subtle wear or kink would fail the line very quickly. 

 

Like I said, it felt to me like all the common negatives usually associated with FC were greatly exaggerated. It required too much of my attention, I would easily prefer mono over it. 

It wasn't impossible to use, just that for me, the negatives outweighed the positives. 

For the other lines, the positives outweighed the negatives. 

Our experiences with Vanish are very different. I have found it to be durable with good knot strength . I agree it’s not the softest line, but I’m not using it on spinning reels . I alternate between Big Game and Vanish on my casting reels only. Trilene XL on spinning reels. I’ve tried more expensive lines and didn’t see what all the fuss was about. 

[WRB]

8 lb FC for cranking is a failure waiting to happen. 

The reason soooo mannny different knots are used for FC is poor knot strength compared to mono or Copolymer line of equal diameter.

Crankbait fishing is long casting hundreds of times. The wear and stress on the FC line and knots doesn’t work well and no advantage. 

If you want 8 lb line use Maxima Ultra Green .010D or 11 lb Sunline Armillo .0108D.

Revo SX is 8.3:1 ratio ?

Tom

[Spankey]

REVO4- SX-L, 6.6:1, a bit fast, I’ll keep a high full spool. I might step up to 10# as a few of these guys suggest. Drift fishing for river smallies. 
 

Think I’m gonna do an exchange from a 6’8” to a 6’4” rod. If not possible that’s ok. Has a nice moderate action. Can’t wait until smallie time. 

2 hours ago, WRB said:

8 lb FC for cranking is a failure waiting to happen. 

The reason soooo mannny different knots are used for FC is poor knot strength compared to mono or Copolymer line of equal diameter.

Crankbait fishing is long casting hundreds of times. The wear and stress on the FC line and knots doesn’t work well and no advantage. 

If you want 8 lb line use Maxima Ultra Green .010D or 11 lb Sunline Armillo .0108D.

Revo SX is 8.3:1 ratio ?

Tom

 

[Fishingintheweeds]

On 1/6/2022 at 10:54 AM, A-Jay said:

 

Some solid suggestions offered here so far ~

Great aspect of this forum, especially when it comes to topics like line choice, 

is so many truly great sticks have already done most all of the leg work.

No need to reinvent the wheel, sort of speak.

Of course, trust comes into play as well.

Who do you trust ?

Either way, over the course of many years and at some expense,

I went round & round & round & round with FC.

Tired it, hated it, tried it again, hated it again, gave up on it, tried it again, still hated it.

Finally, at the advice of some of the stud bassheads here, I tried InvisX.

Done.

Then heard, well if you like InvisX, you'll Love Tatsu.

As usual, they were right again.

They both do everything I need a FC to do; the Tatsu seems to do that just a little bit better IMO. Whether the $$ justified may be a personal choice.

For me - it is. 

Good Luck 

A-Jay

Ignored FC, tied it on as a leader and saw no improvement, cut it off. Tried it later, felt the difference, liked it and then had the breakoffs. Cut it off. Well, it felt great and I ended up tying it back on a couple days ago.  I had not been using InvisX or Tatsu though...there are a lot of opinions on all these threads but this is the kind of answer I was looking for. 

 

Thanks!

[Columbia Craw]

I’m trying some Daiwa JDM floro and so far I’m extremely impressed and it’s very affordable.  I still think Tatsu sets the bench mark.