Super User Spankey Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 Guys have had great results with Monos and Co-poly lines from SunLine and McCoy. Along with XT , XL and Big Game. Have a new dedicated crankbaits setup. Was thinking about doing an 8# spooling of a fluoro. Not really interested in braid with leader. Looking for a few Fluoro suggestions. I do see in a lot of post y’all mention Seagar. In the past fluoro generally turned out to be a real hassle. Nightmares. Thought maybe I could be steered in a better direction. Crankbait weights will be 3/8 to 1/2 oz. Don’t see exceeding that. Don’t see trying to throw under 5/16 oz. Appreciate any opinions. Trying to avoid any frustrations. Being thrown on an Abu Rod and a REVO SX. Willing to give something a chance. Have to believe fluoro has came along way also. Thanks. 2 Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 I've had issues with FC lines in the past, but a couple have been good to me I have InvizX in 6# and 8# on a couple spinning rigs. Using KVD, it's not given me any trouble. I have 15# Tatsu on my bottom contact rig (Fury 704/Patriarch 7.1:1) and it's also been very well behaved. Got the spool of line as a gifting. I'd say if you want to dish out the money, Tatsu is about as good as it gets, but for those of us more budget conscious, InvizX is a great second choice. 4 1 Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 I fished Seaguar from bulk spools for more than a decade. Red then Abrazx was my bread and butter. Biggest complaint is coiling line memory. Can't go wrong with Invizx and Tatsu. Seaguar makes knot strength their top priority. I've gone mostly to finer braids on shallow spools, and don't buy bulk fluoro anymore. Two deep 1016 and 1012-size spools, I filled one with Tatsu, and the other with R-18 I loaded in a Japan shopping cart. These lines are stiffer, which gives them lower memory and less coiling. 10-lb casts really well, and you should enjoy casting 8-lb. 1 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted January 6, 2022 Author Super User Posted January 6, 2022 I’ve had a life of live and learn. I’m use to it and not apposed to it but on this I’m just trying to take away any major disappointments. That Seagar and invizx I’ve seen you guy throw that around. 1 Quote
Diggy Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Seaguar Abrazx (stiffer/ more abrasion resistant) Invizx (more limp) Tatsu (best/most expensive) Sunline Sniper (More limp) Shooter (stiffer/ more abrasion resistant) 3 1 Quote
ChrisO91 Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Last spring I learned of Sunline FC Sniper for crankin'....so glad I did. 1 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted January 6, 2022 Author Super User Posted January 6, 2022 I’m gonna be using this setup to make general crankbaits casts but majority of my casting is gonna be pitching or flipping under overhanging tree branches drift fishing the river bank. Pitching or flipping is probably not the correct term but you know what I mean. The rod they got me is great 6’8”, would like a bit shorter, 6’4” version. Was out of stock no back order. I’m not that tall and in some circumstances shorter is better. Will reach out to TW and see if I can Score on one of the 6’4” when they come in. Even exchange or put on waiting list for it. I have time for it to come in. I’m in ice and snow now. Or will be by tomorrow morning. 21 minutes ago, Diggy said: Seaguar Abrazx (stiffer/ more abrasion resistant) Invizx (more limp) Tatsu (best/most expensive) Sunline Sniper (More limp) Shooter (stiffer/ more abrasion resistant) 8 minutes ago, ChrisO91 said: Last spring I learned of Sunline FC Sniper for crankin'....so glad I did. The SunLine Super Mono is the best mono line I’ve ever used. Stumbled on that a couple of years ago by seeing an ad and was on sale. Fish a couple of fast and x-fast soft plastic setups with it. 1 Quote
EWREX Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, ChrisO91 said: Last spring I learned of Sunline FC Sniper for crankin'....so glad I did. ^ i'd double down and agree here 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 As always, Seaguar InvizX and Tatsu are the brand standard-bearer for all-around fluoro line manageability and performance at the two ends of the price spectrum. In your case, I would personally bump up to 10# or slightly higher due to the way they rate lines (fluoro is always to the low side vs mono/copoly). However, in the end, it’s not whether fluoro has come a long way, but whether your casting skills have. 1 2 Quote
Fishingmickey Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 No one has mentioned Diawa Samurai in this thread yet. I've been on the Seaguar Invisx and Tatsu band wagon for awhile. I've been using the Diawa Samurai J-Fluoro and have been very pleased with it's performance so far. I feel the quality is right up there with Tatsu. FM 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Spankey said: Guys have had great results with Monos and Co-poly lines from SunLine and McCoy. Along with XT , XL and Big Game. Have a new dedicated crankbaits setup. Was thinking about doing an 8# spooling of a fluoro. Not really interested in braid with leader. Looking for a few Fluoro suggestions. I do see in a lot of post y’all mention Seagar. In the past fluoro generally turned out to be a real hassle. Nightmares. Thought maybe I could be steered in a better direction. Crankbait weights will be 3/8 to 1/2 oz. Don’t see exceeding that. Don’t see trying to throw under 5/16 oz. Appreciate any opinions. Trying to avoid any frustrations. Being thrown on an Abu Rod and a REVO SX. Willing to give something a chance. Have to believe fluoro has came along way also. Thanks. 41 minutes ago, Spankey said: I’m gonna be using this setup to make general crankbaits casts but majority of my casting is gonna be pitching or flipping under overhanging tree branches drift fishing the river bank. Pitching or flipping is probably not the correct term but you know what I mean. The rod they got me is great 6’8”, would like a bit shorter, 6’4” version. Was out of stock no back order. I’m not that tall and in some circumstances shorter is better. Will reach out to TW and see if I can Score on one of the 6’4” when they come in. Even exchange or put on waiting list for it. I have time for it to come in. I’m in ice and snow now. Or will be by tomorrow morning. The SunLine Super Mono is the best mono line I’ve ever used. Stumbled on that a couple of years ago by seeing an ad and was on sale. Fish a couple of fast and x-fast soft plastic setups with it. Some solid suggestions offered here so far ~ Great aspect of this forum, especially when it comes to topics like line choice, is so many truly great sticks have already done most all of the leg work. No need to reinvent the wheel, sort of speak. Of course, trust comes into play as well. Who do you trust ? Either way, over the course of many years and at some expense, I went round & round & round & round with FC. Tired it, hated it, tried it again, hated it again, gave up on it, tried it again, still hated it. Finally, at the advice of some of the stud bassheads here, I tried InvisX. Done. Then heard, well if you like InvisX, you'll Love Tatsu. As usual, they were right again. They both do everything I need a FC to do; the Tatsu seems to do that just a little bit better IMO. Whether the $$ justified may be a personal choice. For me - it is. Good Luck A-Jay 2 2 Quote
Oklahoma Mike Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 I prefer braid or braid to leader on most of my setups. For the few that have straight FC, Tatsu is the only line I will use. Yes, it's a little more expensive than others but those few bucks save me a lot of headaches I seem to have with other FC lines. A lot of people seem to like Sniper. I have tried it and found it better than a lot of others I've tried but still did not like it as much as Tatsu personally. 1 1 Quote
Super User king fisher Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 I am currently not using floro carbon for main line and hope to stay that way. If I do relapse, I will be using Sniper. 1 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted January 6, 2022 Author Super User Posted January 6, 2022 My FC experience is exactly as mentioned. Used it, it sucked, went to XT. Tried it again, not impressed went to Big Game and so on. For the most part I’m using Stren and Big Game on my BC’s. Just want to step myself up a bit. With any luck there is a local guy that might be able to get my a sample or a pony spool of one. A lot of the good old days of samples are over. I generally buy my line in bulk spools but on this one I’m sort of starting from scratch. Price is what it is $$$$$ can’t control that. Only have a few bad habits, fishing, hunting and clay shooting. But that InvisX and Tatsu has a following here for sure. Quote
Jason Penn Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 i've been using sunline assassin for a few years now in 12, 15, & 17, and have been very pleased with it. it's a good handling line that is also on the more budget-friendly side. 1 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, Spankey said: I generally buy my line in bulk spools but on this one I’m sort of starting from scratch. Price is what it is $$$$$ can’t control that. But that InvisX and Tatsu has a following here for sure. Day in and Day out, Amazon has good pricing on bulk (600 & 1000 yds) spool. Of course, TW is running a decent deal (30% off) for 4 more days as well. A-Jay 1 1 Quote
warefisher Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 Is fluorocarbon more manageable in the first season of purchase? If I bought a bulk spool and don’t use it all, would I notice a great difference in succeeding years? Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, warefisher said: Is fluorocarbon more manageable in the first season of purchase? If I bought a bulk spool and don’t use it all, would I notice a great difference in succeeding years? Keeping inside, away from sunlight and temperature extremes - no noticeable difference will be felt. This should be the norm for all monofilament lines - Nylon (what most people think of when you talk Mono), Flourocarbon and Hybrid. 2 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted January 6, 2022 Author Super User Posted January 6, 2022 I keep my bulk mono spools in a cool dry basement. You should be fine. But that’s the thing. How fresh is it? Buy from someone you trust. Quote
Super User Mobasser Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 I have been interested in trying flouro again. I tried Seagaur red lable on one spinning setup with poor results. I may try some of the suggestions here. My thing is being able to manage flouro easily. I want to try a light flouro of 6 or 8llb rating for clear water with smaller soft plastics. I've read many reviews of various flouro lines, and if we believe all the manufacturer s clams, they of course are all the best. I've fished mono lines all my life, with very little problems. If I can find a flouro line that manages well on dpin gear, I'd probably like it. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Mobasser said: I have been interested in trying flouro again. I tried Seagaur red lable on one spinning setup with poor results. Sean, I tried Red Label myself a few years ago and hated it...ran away from FC because of that. I do like InvizX on the spinning gear...KVD might not be needed, but I use it on all my non-braid line anyway. 1 Quote
Super User Mobasser Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, MN Fisher said: Sean, I tried Red Label myself a few years ago and hated it...ran away from FC because of that. I do like InvizX on the spinning gear...KVD might not be needed, but I use it on all my non-braid line anyway. I would like to avoid using line conditioner if possible. Quote
Super User MN Fisher Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mobasser said: I would like to avoid using line conditioner if possible. I know there's people here who don't use it on InvizX and have no issues...it's just a thing with me that I use it. 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted January 6, 2022 Super User Posted January 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Mobasser said: I have been interested in trying flouro again. I tried Seagaur red lable on one spinning setup with poor results. I may try some of the suggestions here. My thing is being able to manage flouro easily. I want to try a light flouro of 6 or 8llb rating for clear water with smaller soft plastics. I've read many reviews of various flouro lines, and if we believe all the manufacturer s clams, they of course are all the best. I've fished mono lines all my life, with very little problems. If I can find a flouro line that manages well on dpin gear, I'd probably like it. 3 minutes ago, Mobasser said: I would like to avoid using line conditioner if possible. Try 6# InvizX or Tatsu to start and see if it will get you the strength you need for the presentations you want to try. Another recommendation is to use it (fluoro) on a larger size spinning reel (2500/3000) of some sort as that will help with handling. Try to avoid the little 1000 size reels, etc. with the tiny spools. I've been using fluoro for 10 years now and have never once used line conditioner. Not saying it wouldn't help, it's just not a necessity, IMO, if your setup is good from the beginning. I once landed a 44# flathead fished on straight 8# Seaguar InvizX on a spinning outfit with shaky head. Took over 1 hour to land, but that gives you an idea of what a good fluoro setup is capable of handling. 1 Quote
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