Msl819 Posted January 1, 2022 Posted January 1, 2022 Let me start by admitting this question comes from a place of vanity. I have a Certate 3000 that I was considering dressing up, just cause. I was thinking a new, nice double paddle handle and a reel stand/balancer. Here’s my question - following the link below, am I correct in understanding that this particular handle does not come with knobs? Also, is is compatible with the new model Certate? I am having trouble following the translated English. I figured you guys may have experience. Thanks in advance. https://www.hedgehog-studio.co.jp/phone/product/3892 Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted January 1, 2022 Super User Posted January 1, 2022 That handle does not come with knobs but states it does come with the 740ZZ ball bearings. Asian Portal will have a better price if they have stock - if you put a big enough cart together, you'll get free FedEx express. They should have a section under reels for Daiwa SLP works (Sports Life Planet or something that doesn't translate) https://fishing.asian-portal.shop/category/select/cid/360/bid/94 That said, Hedgehog service is lightning fast - they are always the quickest to ship. You already have one knob, You might be able to find the matching knob and only buy one. Or upgrade to a pair of nicer knobs. https://www.hedgehog-studio.co.jp/product-list/330 It's a nice handle, here with Avail acrylic knobs. It's not entirely vanity, double and counter-balanced handles can improve light feel by offsetting the tendency for gravity to turn the rotor on the bail and handle weight, especially with start-stop fishing, critical line length, etc. They can also speed up your crank rate. I like the SLP double handle best on low-geared reels (45-mm handle pitch). On my high-geared spinning reels, I like the Livre Union counter-balance, which has adjustable pitch and comes in color choices. 1 Quote
Msl819 Posted January 1, 2022 Author Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, bulldog1935 said: That handle does not come with knobs but states it does come with the 740ZZ ball bearings. Asian Portal will have a better price if they have stock - if you put a big enough cart together, you'll get free FedEx express. They should have a section under reels for Daiwa SLP works (Sports Life Planet or something that doesn't translate) https://fishing.asian-portal.shop/category/select/cid/360/bid/94 That said, Hedgehog service is lightning fast - they are always the quickest to ship. You already have one knob, You might be able to find the matching knob and only buy one. Or upgrade to a pair of nicer knobs. https://www.hedgehog-studio.co.jp/product-list/330 It's a nice handle, here with Avail acrylic knobs. It's not entirely vanity, double and counter-balanced handles can improve light feel by offsetting the tendency for gravity to turn the rotor on the bail and handle weight, especially with start-stop fishing, critical line length, etc. They can also speed up your crank rate. I like the SLP double handle best on low-geared reels (45-mm handle pitch). On my high-geared spinning reels, I like the Livre Union counter-balance, which has adjustable pitch and comes in color choices. Thanks for the response and info. The original knob is a t type knob so I’d need to replace both with something new. 1 Quote
Msl819 Posted January 1, 2022 Author Posted January 1, 2022 5 hours ago, bulldog1935 said: That handle does not come with knobs but states it does come with the 740ZZ ball bearings. Asian Portal will have a better price if they have stock - if you put a big enough cart together, you'll get free FedEx express. They should have a section under reels for Daiwa SLP works (Sports Life Planet or something that doesn't translate) https://fishing.asian-portal.shop/category/select/cid/360/bid/94 That said, Hedgehog service is lightning fast - they are always the quickest to ship. You already have one knob, You might be able to find the matching knob and only buy one. Or upgrade to a pair of nicer knobs. https://www.hedgehog-studio.co.jp/product-list/330 It's a nice handle, here with Avail acrylic knobs. It's not entirely vanity, double and counter-balanced handles can improve light feel by offsetting the tendency for gravity to turn the rotor on the bail and handle weight, especially with start-stop fishing, critical line length, etc. They can also speed up your crank rate. I like the SLP double handle best on low-geared reels (45-mm handle pitch). On my high-geared spinning reels, I like the Livre Union counter-balance, which has adjustable pitch and comes in color choices. Another quick question. Are all knobs compatible with this shaft? Not sure if the length on the knobs is a standard or not. Thanks! Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted January 2, 2022 Super User Posted January 2, 2022 all Shimano A and Daiwa S knobs swap (Shimano B and Daiwa L are 5 mm knob spindle and fit 10,000 size reels) There's a bearing-size shoulder at the base of Shimano knob spindle that Daiwa doesn't have. .............Shimano.....................................................................Daiwa If you use a Shimano knob on a Daiwa handle, there's also a bearing-size plastic bushing that takes up that extra length of spindle, you slide on before the inner BB. I have reels mixed and matched with Shimano, Daiwa handles, and Livre, Avail knob. The knobs all come with the spacer bushing and a set of shim washers (0.5- and 0.2-mm thick) you fit on either side of the inner BB - you stack the shim washers to adjust out end-play, through a couple of iterations of assembly and tightening. IOS factory even makes the adapter that lets you use a Daiwa handle on a Shimano reel, here, for offshore cranking. IOS also makes the hex-shaft adapter that lets me use Daiwa handles on Tica reels (to replace folding handles). 2 Quote
Msl819 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/1/2022 at 6:34 PM, bulldog1935 said: all Shimano A and Daiwa S knobs swap (Shimano B and Daiwa L are 5 mm knob spindle and fit 10,000 size reels) There's a bearing-size shoulder at the base of Shimano knob spindle that Daiwa doesn't have. .............Shimano.....................................................................Daiwa If you use a Shimano knob on a Daiwa handle, there's also a bearing-size plastic bushing that takes up that extra length of spindle, you slide on before the inner BB. I have reels mixed and matched with Shimano, Daiwa handles, and Livre, Avail knob. The knobs all come with the spacer bushing and a set of shim washers (0.5- and 0.2-mm thick) you fit on either side of the inner BB - you stack the shim washers to adjust out end-play, through a couple of iterations of assembly and tightening. IOS factory even makes the adapter that lets you use a Daiwa handle on a Shimano reel, here, for offshore cranking. IOS also makes the hex-shaft adapter that lets me use Daiwa handles on Tica reels (to replace folding handles). The Certate comes in this model with a double handle. Does anyone know if Daiwa sells this handle In the aftermarket? Can it be sourced from an authorized Daiwa dealer? Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted January 5, 2022 Super User Posted January 5, 2022 you can order the part from Plat, who will source it from Daiwa. https://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/partsorder.php?products_id=3053 It's part no. 105 on the schematic, $120 plus Plat's part charge and shipping. USM does not import that Certate model with the double handle, so you can't get the part through Daiwa.US US Market is 3000-XH. (6.2 gears, deep spool) https://daiwa.us/products/certate-lt It's this model, only JDM (5.7 gears, shallow spool) https://fishing.asian-portal.shop/category/select/pid/272146 1 Quote
Msl819 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Posted January 5, 2022 Thanks once again! You’ve been beyond helpful! 1 Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted January 5, 2022 Super User Posted January 5, 2022 Daiwa.Au ran this custom color project https://daiwafishing.com.au/collections/daiwa-custom-project I found a shop in NZ with DHL shipping and closeout prices - https://www.marine-deals.co.nz There's a chance if Daiwa. Au imports that Certate LT 3000S-CH-DH, you could order the handle you want through marine-deals cheaper, but you'd need to know the Daiwa part number (see if it's on the Plat schematic). Unfortunately, was never able to find a color double in stock anywhere, but a friend and I bought up most of the last orange Daiwa handles for our Tica Libra SX reels, which are already trimmed in orange anodize. We were buying these Daiwa handles half-price for NZ$40, which is only US$27. Even the DHL NZ charge was a good deal compared to shipping from Japan. (we bought the stock down, then they raised the price of the remaining stock back to retail) Between us, we replaced the folding handles on 8 Tica reels. He wanted to dress up the reels for fishing with his grandkids. On the right, his Libra SX3000 got a very nice wood knob that was closing out at JapanTackle. I also used the tiny Daiwa 72-mm double on my XUL Tica Cetus SS500 - looks like it was made for it. It was a good buy at Asian Portal, when we were loading up carts to pimp these reels. I replaced the Zaion knobs with my favorite Avail acrylic knobs. 1 Quote
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