Fishin Dad Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 I have been reading on here and you all make incredible things! I mess with tackle and modify things, but I am going to dive more into hair and tying bass jigs. I have done some (horrible, quick, uneducated) stuff, but want to try a little more. I really like the concept of the big old Chicken jig by Outcast tackle. They say it is made with synthetic fur. Does anyone have any idea what that is and where the best place to find it would be? Thanks in advance. I am going to keep reading here. This is really fun to check out. Quote
Bdnoble84 Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 Means craft fur. Cabeles and basspro as well as borlows, lure parts online all carry it. I would definitely want to know the quality of the product on that one just because its going to be important the craft fur is long for that pattern Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted December 30, 2021 Super User Posted December 30, 2021 I got mine from Dale Hollow Tackle. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 30, 2021 Global Moderator Posted December 30, 2021 Chickens have feathers not hair……… hehe But chicken feathers are very popular in fly tying, mostly the hackle feathers (neck) 2 Quote
Fishin Dad Posted December 30, 2021 Author Posted December 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bdnoble84 said: Means craft fur. Cabeles and basspro as well as borlows, lure parts online all carry it. I would definitely want to know the quality of the product on that one just because its going to be important the craft fur is long for that pattern 5 minutes ago, Jig Man said: I got mine from Dale Hollow Tackle. 3 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Chickens have feathers not hair……… hehe But chicken feathers are very popular in fly tying, mostly the hackle feathers (neck) That has been my problem in looking for the synthetic fur they are using. I can’t find very long synthetic fur. I looked at Lure Parts Online and they have some interesting synthetic materials. I just wish I knew closer to what those look and feel like without having to order all of them. Whatever they (Outcast) use, they say it really slows down the fall rate. They use 3/4 oz jigs in not very deep water for them. I think the only thing that is really “chicken” in the two long feathers that flow longer on the jig. Thanks for answering so quickly! Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 30, 2021 Global Moderator Posted December 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Fishin Dad said: That has been my problem in looking for the synthetic fur they are using. I can’t find very long synthetic fur. I looked at Lure Parts Online and they have some interesting synthetic materials. I just wish I knew closer to what those look and feel like without having to order all of them. Whatever they (Outcast) use, they say it really slows down the fall rate. They use 3/4 oz jigs in not very deep water for them. I think the only thing that is really “chicken” in the two long feathers that flow longer on the jig. Thanks for answering so quickly! I’m not sure what jig you’re referring to but reading the replies, I guess it’s craft hair. It usually comes is tufts longer than a jig, unless of course it’s a preacher jig. What they send you will cover up your hand. Hobby lobby might even have craft hair, you’d be surprised what all they have that works for lure making. Sometimes they have the exact same stuff as a fly shop for about 200% less money Quote
Fishin Dad Posted December 30, 2021 Author Posted December 30, 2021 39 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: I’m not sure what jig you’re referring to but reading the replies, I guess it’s craft hair. It usually comes is tufts longer than a jig, unless of course it’s a preacher jig. What they send you will cover up your hand. Hobby lobby might even have craft hair, you’d be surprised what all they have that works for lure making. Sometimes they have the exact same stuff as a fly shop for about 200% less money Thanks TnRiver46! I was thinking about stopping in there with my wife and daughters next time they go. I can at least see what the product looks like. If you want to see what the chicken jig is, google Seth Feider chicken jig. There are a couple videos of them fishing it. They have been very successful with it in Minnesota where I live. They charge over $15 for them. I know I can make them a lot cheaper. They sell them at Tackle Warehouse. Outcast Tackle Chicken hair jig. Thanks for the info. I see you are a Global Moderator, Congrats!! I think that is new?? 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 30, 2021 Global Moderator Posted December 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, Fishin Dad said: Thanks TnRiver46! I was thinking about stopping in there with my wife and daughters next time they go. I can at least see what the product looks like. If you want to see what the chicken jig is, google Seth Feider chicken jig. There are a couple videos of them fishing it. They have been very successful with it in Minnesota where I live. They charge over $15 for them. I know I can make them a lot cheaper. They sell them at Tackle Warehouse. Outcast Tackle Chicken hair jig. Thanks for the info. I see you are a Global Moderator, Congrats!! I think that is new?? Thanks man! Yes it’s new, they must be crazy letting me moderate haha well the first thing I looked up called it a form of preacher jig so you might need some longer craft hair than what I typically get Quote
Fishin Dad Posted December 30, 2021 Author Posted December 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Thanks man! Yes it’s new, they must be crazy letting me moderate haha well the first thing I looked up called it a form of preacher jig so you might need some longer craft hair than what I typically get congrats again! This forum is amazing I am going to continue my search for unique synthetic fiber that is long enough. I want to have something similar that is unique to show them something different with all this new found fishing pressure. I have to wait 4 months however...............uggh 1 Quote
KCFinesse Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 Look at Wapsi big fly fiber or a product called EP fiber. Both are slightly different than craft fur and come in longer lengths. -Jared 1 1 Quote
Bdnoble84 Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 12 hours ago, TnRiver46 said: I’m not sure what jig you’re referring to but reading the replies, I guess it’s craft hair. It usually comes is tufts longer than a jig, unless of course it’s a preacher jig. What they send you will cover up your hand. Hobby lobby might even have craft hair, you’d be surprised what all they have that works for lure making. Sometimes they have the exact same stuff as a fly shop for about 200% less money They have some but is extremely short and not going to be of much benefit 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted December 30, 2021 Global Moderator Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, Bdnoble84 said: They have some but is extremely short and not going to be of much benefit Yeah I didn’t realize how big that jig was until the OP told me to look it up Quote
BassNJake Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 For the lazy and/or internet search challenged 3 1 Quote
heavyduty Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 That's a lot of hair past the hook. Wonder if missed fish on short strikes is an issue? Looks like a trailer hook would be a plus. Quote
Fallser Posted December 30, 2021 Posted December 30, 2021 I'm don't think it's craft fur. Definitely artificial though. I also can't figure out how the bulk of the material slows a 1/2 oz or 3/4 oz jig down. It looks like it does have some bucktail in it. The shorter hairs behind the jig head. An interesting looking Crystal Flash. I like to find that. Some streamer hackle, though I can't tell how many. Maybe two, possibly four. I've got a bunch of artificial hairs. Some I've never used, mainly because they bulk up like that. It's not what I look for when I'm tying a bait fish pattern. I'll take a look and maybe I can give you a name for it. I can't believe they want $15 for it. Maybe it's the fancy jig head. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 30, 2021 Super User Posted December 30, 2021 I buy all my hair jig materials from Bob Marriotts Fishing, they sell online, decent prices and have experts to help you find exactly what you need. If Bob Marriotts doesn't have it, it doesn’t exist. Tom 1 Quote
Fishin Dad Posted December 31, 2021 Author Posted December 31, 2021 6 hours ago, Fallser said: I'm don't think it's craft fur. Definitely artificial though. I also can't figure out how the bulk of the material slows a 1/2 oz or 3/4 oz jig down. It looks like it does have some bucktail in it. The shorter hairs behind the jig head. An interesting looking Crystal Flash. I like to find that. Some streamer hackle, though I can't tell how many. Maybe two, possibly four. I've got a bunch of artificial hairs. Some I've never used, mainly because they bulk up like that. It's not what I look for when I'm tying a bait fish pattern. I'll take a look and maybe I can give you a name for it. I can't believe they want $15 for it. Maybe it's the fancy jig head. It has been an interesting search so far. I think I am going to end up buying a bunch of different materials and trying them out. Maybe I will find something unique that works just as well. On the videos I have watched, Feider and the others talked about a very slow fall because of the bulk from the material. The description says it is synthetic, just not sure what. Thanks for helping me look!! 1 Quote
Bdnoble84 Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 Well, if you are me you just skin your kids lassie stuffed animal. The length on this stuff is great. Lassie didnt go to waste 4 Quote
dopey Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 Try Fly Tyers Dungeon https://www.flytyersdungeon.com/Materials/Chart_Crystal_Hair.htm 1 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted January 12, 2022 Super User Posted January 12, 2022 Just shave some chickens. Allen 1 1 Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted January 12, 2022 Super User Posted January 12, 2022 From the video I watched on the chicken jig and I believe I know what it might be. I believe they are using a synthetic material called strung fuzzy fiber. Hareline Strung Fuzzy Fiber | J. Stockard Fly Fishing (jsflyfishing.com) I don't think it is made with EP fibers because the cost alone isn't really good when you consider how much material is on 1 jig. EP fibers are like double the cost of strung fuzzy fiber and there is a lot of material on 1 jig. 1 Quote
Super User MickD Posted January 12, 2022 Super User Posted January 12, 2022 On 12/29/2021 at 8:48 PM, Fishin Dad said: 1 hour ago, smalljaw67 said: From the video I watched on the chicken jig and I believe I know what it might be. I believe they are using a synthetic material called strung fuzzy fiber. Hareline Strung Fuzzy Fiber | J. Stockard Fly Fishing (jsflyfishing.com) I don't think it is made with EP fibers because the cost alone isn't really good when you consider how much material is on 1 jig. EP fibers are like double the cost of strung fuzzy fiber and there is a lot of material on 1 jig. I think you're right. At least it appears to me that the Fuzzy Fiber will work. Craft fur that I have seen is not long enough for the fly I saw on the video. And the EP fibers I've worked with don't seem to be soft enough to do what this jig is doing. Quote
Fishin Dad Posted January 12, 2022 Author Posted January 12, 2022 3 hours ago, smalljaw67 said: From the video I watched on the chicken jig and I believe I know what it might be. I believe they are using a synthetic material called strung fuzzy fiber. Hareline Strung Fuzzy Fiber | J. Stockard Fly Fishing (jsflyfishing.com) I don't think it is made with EP fibers because the cost alone isn't really good when you consider how much material is on 1 jig. EP fibers are like double the cost of strung fuzzy fiber and there is a lot of material on 1 jig. 1 hour ago, MickD said: I think you're right. At least it appears to me that the Fuzzy Fiber will work. Craft fur that I have seen is not long enough for the fly I saw on the video. And the EP fibers I've worked with don't seem to be soft enough to do what this jig is doing. Thanks Fellas!!!! This is exactly what I wanted to hear. I have about 7 different kinds of hair in my cart at Lurenet and this is one of them. I know most of them aren't long enough, but it doesn't say how long in the descriptions. I will for sure give this a try. Is jsflyfishing.com the best or is Lurenet ok as well? Thanks again. You guys know your stuff!!! Quote
Super User MickD Posted January 12, 2022 Super User Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Fishin Dad said: Is jsflyfishing.com the best or is Lurenet ok as well? I'm not familiar with Lurenet, but Jsflyfishing.com is a good company. I also buy a lot from Lurepartsonline.com. Not all companies have all products,so shopping at a couple is often necessary to get all I want. And some have certain products that seem better than others, like some feathers, other natural stuff. Almost everything by "Hareline" is good stuff, by the way. I just checked the Lurenet site and it appears more of a lure shop than a tacklemaking shop. I didn't see the kinds of stuff we are discussing there. Maybe I'm missing something, but. . . Quote
Fishin Dad Posted January 12, 2022 Author Posted January 12, 2022 40 minutes ago, MickD said: I'm not familiar with Lurenet, but Jsflyfishing.com is a good company. I also buy a lot from Lurepartsonline.com. Not all companies have all products,so shopping at a couple is often necessary to get all I want. And some have certain products that seem better than others, like some feathers, other natural stuff. Almost everything by "Hareline" is good stuff, by the way. I just checked the Lurenet site and it appears more of a lure shop than a tacklemaking shop. I didn't see the kinds of stuff we are discussing there. Maybe I'm missing something, but. . . Darn it, my fault. I meant to say lurepartsonline. Mid-week idiot move. Thanks for all the info!!! Quote
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