NCAA Football Bowl Games

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18 minutes ago, PourMyOwn said:

You don't remember 2014-2015 when they beat Bama and Oregon to win it all?

Yes, I do.  But let's be honest.  The Buckeyes are routinely the best team in the big ten and other than that year what have they done on a national level recently?  Its been all SEC dominance.

[Bird]

Don't forget about the influence of legendary coaches, they play a major roll in a programs success. 

 

Many examples.........Saban, Tom osborne, Lou Holtz , Bobby Bowden, bear Bryant. 

Look at coach K at Duke or Geno at Uconn.

 

[PourMyOwn]

40 minutes ago, gimruis said:

Yes, I do.  But let's be honest.  The Buckeyes are routinely the best team in the big ten and other than that year what have they done on a national level recently?  Its been all SEC dominance.

I'm not going to discount beating Trevor Lawrence and Clemson last year. I'd say winning CFP games against legitimate teams (not Notre Dame or Sparty) certainly is on a national level.

 

LSU was historically great with Joey Burrow, last year's Bama may have been the best team they have assembled. What that has to do with the rest of the SEC is beyond me. Alabama is the only team that has dominated anything. 

[Dwight Hottle]

I'll go out on a limb and forecast Michigan takes it all. 

[TnRiver46]

1 hour ago, PourMyOwn said:

 

 

10 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Alabama, LSU and Georgia have won the conference the last 19 years, seems to be really benefitting the other schools. But as long as big brother has a good job and gives me money, I'm okay with it. That is the SEC fan mentality.

 

Sorry, forgot about Auburn. Throw them in the mix and it's 4 teams out of 14 that have won the conference in 22 years.

Gators have won several too

(and the vols won two back to back just before you started counting )

[PourMyOwn]

16 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

 

Gators have won several too

(and the vols won two back to back just before you started counting )

I watched Tee Martin, Danny W and all those guys. But if we go back that far Michigan,  Penn St and even Nebraska become relevant. 

 

I will give you the Urban at UF team, and Les Miles the grass chewer too.

[jbsoonerfan]

Like I already said, I just don't understand the mentality. Not saying there is anything wrong with it, it's just not who I am as a person to cheer for a team that my team can't beat year in and year out and that is what SEC fans do. When OU moves to the SEC and finishes 3rd or 4th every year, I won't be happy and certainly will never cheer for another SEC team to win the NC. The last few years I would have said OU had a 70-80% chance to make the CFP before the season started. Once they join the SEC, I would say they start the season with about a 10-20% chance. I only want one team to win and that is OU, that's just how I was raised I guess. I'm also realistic and realize it may be a long time till they win a NC, it's already been 21 years and they blew their chances too many times to count. 

[PourMyOwn]

3 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Like I already said, I just don't understand the mentality. Not saying there is anything wrong with it, it's just not who I am as a person to cheer for a team that my team can't beat year in and year out and that is what SEC fans do. When OU moves to the SEC and finishes 3rd or 4th every year, I won't be happy and certainly will never cheer for another SEC team to win the NC. The last few years I would have said OU had a 70-80% chance to make the CFP before the season started. Once they join the SEC, I would say they start the season with about a 10-20% chance. I only want one team to win and that is OU, that's just how I was raised I guess. I'm also realistic and realize it may be a long time till they win a NC, it's already been 21 years and they blew their chances too many times to count. 

I agree 100%. There's nothing I want to see more than Michigan losing this weekend. 

 

Serious question for the SEC fans: is it a Civil War thing? The south vs the northern aggressors? I just can't imagine why any Auburn fan would derive pleasure from seeing Bama, Georgia or Tennessee winning.

[Tennessee Boy]

 

2 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Like I already said, I just don't understand the mentality. Not saying there is anything wrong with it, it's just not who I am as a person to cheer for a team that my team can't beat year in and year out and that is what SEC fans do. When OU moves to the SEC and finishes 3rd or 4th every year, I won't be happy and certainly will never cheer for another SEC team to win the NC. The last few years I would have said OU had a 70-80% chance to make the CFP before the season started. Once they join the SEC, I would say they start the season with about a 10-20% chance. I only want one team to win and that is OU, that's just how I was raised I guess. I'm also realistic and realize it may be a long time till they win a NC, it's already been 21 years and they blew their chances too many times to count. 

Just my humble opinion.  I think Oklahoma will be a better team after they join the SEC.  I think a lot of high school prospects want to play in the premier conference and want to showcase their talent against the best competition.  Playing quality opponents week in and week out will make them a better team even if it means more losses.  It's hard to get to the SEC championship game but when you do you have a good chance of making to the playoffs.   10 of the 32 slots in the playoffs have been from the SEC since the current format started in 2014.   

 

2 hours ago, PourMyOwn said:

Serious question for the SEC fans: is it a Civil War thing? The south vs the northern aggressors? I just can't imagine why any Auburn fan would derive pleasure from seeing Bama, Georgia or Tennessee winning.

It not a north vs south thing.  Florida beat us but couldn't beat UCF in their bowl game.   That's embarrassing.   We played well against Georgia but loss.  If they win the championship,  I can feel better about that. 

[TnRiver46]

On 12/27/2021 at 1:15 PM, PourMyOwn said:

I agree 100%. There's nothing I want to see more than Michigan losing this weekend. 

 

Serious question for the SEC fans: is it a Civil War thing? The south vs the northern aggressors? I just can't imagine why any Auburn fan would derive pleasure from seeing Bama, Georgia or Tennessee winning.

It’s not all of us doggone it!!! I guarantee you an auburn fan NEVER wants to see Bama win anything. Not even a game of checkers. Also the civil war comment? Give me friggin break dude. Half of the state of TN fought for the Union . You sound like  my ohio in-laws, they ask me if the TN schools teach the kids that the south won the civil war hahaha. Maybe you guys should study history! (And blocking/tackling)

On 12/27/2021 at 1:08 PM, jbsoonerfan said:

 The last few years I would have said OU had a 70-80% chance to make the CFP before the season started. Once they join the SEC, I would say they start the season with about a 10-20% chance. 

Welcome to the big leagues 

[N Florida Mike]

On 12/24/2021 at 10:18 PM, TnRiver46 said:

I’m with you. I never root for any other SEC teams. Go blue in the playoffs 

Im always torn but I usually root for whatever SEC team is left. Especially against northern teams, lol.

Rooting for Georgia- not so sure about that…?

I like Clemson enough that I did root for them in the playoffs and was happy when they beat Bama… 

[TnRiver46]

5 minutes ago, N Florida Mike said:

Im always torn but I usually root for whatever SEC team is left. Especially against northern teams, lol.

Rooting for Georgia- not so sure about that…?

I like Clemson enough that I did root for them in the playoffs and was happy when they beat Bama… 

When someone beats Bama, we all rejoice haha (except GA, I just blindfold myself when AL and GA play )

[Sam]

On 12/27/2021 at 5:32 AM, OldManLure said:

No, that is the mentality of college and university presidents and athletic directors which probably explains the Univ of Oklahoma’s successful campaign to join the SEC in 2025.  The average SEC fan’s mentality, like loyal fans of every other power conference, is school first and conference second.  SEC fans understand that a conference exists for the financial benefit of its members.

Oh yeah, Florida won SEC championships in 2000, 2006 and 2008.

 

 

Yes, they love the money the football program generates as you stated above.

 

A few years ago LSU published their sports financials in 2020and here is a part of the article:

 

The Advocate reported that ticket sales alone was $36 million during the 2018-19 season, which accounted for 40% of the football revenue. In that season, LSU was at full capacity and played seven games so each game made $5.14 million in ticket sales on a per average basis.

  

This season (2020), LSU's number of home games was reduced from seven to five and the allowed capacity reduced to 25%. At 25% of that $5.14 million average from the 2018-19 season, if LSU were at full capacity in every game in 2020, ticket sales would average $1.3 million per game. 

 

This does not account for food, beverage and merchandise sales.

 

And this is why Texas and Oklahoma bolted for the SEC when they could to fill the last two slots - they would make a lot of money from the conference in revenue sharing and when they played the big SEC teams at home.

 

What is sad is that the coaches who won the National Titles were let go for what ever reasons or excuses.

15 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

It’s not all of us doggone it!!! I guarantee you an auburn fan NEVER wants to see Bama win anything. Not even a game of checkers. Also the civil war comment? Give me friggin break dude. Half of the state of TN fought for the Union . You sound like  my ohio in-laws, they ask me if the TN schools teach the kids that the south won the civil war. Maybe you guys should study history! (And blocking/tackling)

Welcome to the big leagues 

River 46, it does not matter if OU or Texas makes the BCS playoffs or not.

 

It is money. Look at filling up their stadiums for games withe the big SEC powerhouses as opposed to the weaker teams, along with the TV revenue the games will generate.

 

Follow the money!

[TnRiver46]

6 minutes ago, Sam said:

Yes, they love the money the football program generates as you stated above.

 

A few years ago LSU published their sports financials in 2020and here is a part of the article:

 

The Advocate reported that ticket sales alone was $36 million during the 2018-19 season, which accounted for 40% of the football revenue. In that season, LSU was at full capacity and played seven games so each game made $5.14 million in ticket sales on a per average basis.

  

This season (2020), LSU's number of home games was reduced from seven to five and the allowed capacity reduced to 25%. At 25% of that $5.14 million average from the 2018-19 season, if LSU were at full capacity in every game in 2020, ticket sales would average $1.3 million per game. 

 

This does not account for food, beverage and merchandise sales.

 

And this is why Texas and Oklahoma bolted for the SEC when they could to fill the last two slots - they would make a lot of money from the conference in revenue sharing and when they played the big SEC teams at home.

 

What is sad is that the coaches who won the National Titles were let go for what ever reasons or excuses.

River 46, it does not matter if OU or Texas makes the BCS playoffs or not.

 

It is money. Look at filling up their stadiums for games withe the big SEC powerhouses as opposed to the weaker teams, along with the TV revenue the games will generate.

 

Follow the money!

Did LSU include all the money they funneled away from the childrens hospital in that report???

 

Our former coach, who was fired with cause, was filling brown paper McDonald bags with cash and giving to players. Follow the money, head to the Golden Arches!!!

[Tennessee Boy]

19 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

When someone beats Bama, we all rejoice haha (except GA, I just blindfold myself when AL and GA play )

Have you already started hating Oklahoma and Texas or will you wait till they're officially in the SEC.  

[TnRiver46]

8 minutes ago, Tennessee Boy said:

Have you already started hating Oklahoma and Texas or will you wait till they are officially in the SEC.  

Been doing that for years haha. Actually the last home and home series we had with OK, a lot of buddies of mine met a whole bunch of cool folks from Norman. They were all very impressed with the Saturday atmosphere in Knoxville and the feeling was mutual when a bunch of my buddies went out to Norman for the game. Football towns to say the least!! The problem with that series was, of course, butch jones. Especially in that overtime game in Knoxville when he opted for a field goal on 4th and inches from the goal line. That’s the game when baker Mayfield was introduced to the world. I couldn’t  figure out for the life of me why we couldn’t get a hold of that guy, turns out he was pretty slick in college  

 

 

[Sam]

7 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

Did LSU include all the money they funneled away from the childrens hospital in that report???

 

Our former coach, who was fired with cause, was filling brown paper McDonald bags with cash and giving to players. Follow the money, head to the Golden Arches!!!

Not that I know. Nothing was mentioned about it.

3 hours ago, Tennessee Boy said:

Have you already started hating Oklahoma and Texas or will you wait till they're officially in the SEC.  

Will wait until they are officially in the SEC unless they beat Bamasux. Then they are my friends.

[TnRiver46]

7 minutes ago, Sam said:

Not that I know. Nothing was mentioned about it.

Will wait until they are officially in the SEC unless they beat Bamasux. Then they are my friends.

Yeah I know I was just rattling your cage! 

[jbsoonerfan]

On 12/23/2021 at 6:45 PM, jbsoonerfan said:

UCF vs Florida-----these are 2 bad teams

Texas Tech vs Miss St-----these are 2 bad teams

[VolFan]

::nodding:::

 

And Texas Tech is laying it to Mississippi State. 

[jbsoonerfan]

Texas Tech is bad.......Miss St is REEEEEAL bad!!!!

 

That's 0-4 so far for the SEC???? It just means more

[TnRiver46]

9 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Texas Tech is bad.......Miss St is REEEEEAL bad!!!!

 

That's 0-4 so far for the SEC???? It just means more

I’d say the whole conference will probably fold any day now. Might wanna stay in the big 12 

[jbsoonerfan]

1 minute ago, TnRiver46 said:

I’d say the whole conference will probably fold any day now 

Not as long as the few keep working hard for the many. Like a socialist mindset. The Sooners gonna get in on that Bama money soon. :) 

[TnRiver46]

1 minute ago, jbsoonerfan said:

Not as long as the few keep working hard for the many. Like a socialist mindset. The Sooners gonna get in on that Bama money soon. :) 

And playing in dec bowl games, if they are lucky 

[jbsoonerfan]

Just now, TnRiver46 said:

And playing in dec bowl games, if they are lucky 

Oh they will beat 90% of the schools, not sure about the top dogs though. Probably average 9-3, 10-2 most years. Interested to see how they align the conference. The pod system seems to be an awesome way to do it.