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As the title states, I am in need of education concerning a BFS spool for my SV103 reel. I've done some research, but I have never swapped out spools on reels to better dial in my desired approach. So, educate me. What is the best option to step into the BFS world without having to spend a ton of money on a backordered reel? 

 

 

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For 34mm spool (Daiwa SS SV, Zillion SV TW), I use Ray’s Studio shallow spool. There are other options out there some  with fix inductor some very expensive and hard to find and some is super light weight. The Ray’s spool is actually SV brake system same as other SV reels which make it easier to dial in. Another one that pretty hot right now is Roro bfs spool.

Ray’s spool is in the market for quite some times, it is not the lightest spool and might not be able to handle lightest lure. To me it is best for 3-4 grams and above.

If you want other opinion @bulldog1935using 34mm Roro spool with his Daiwa.

 


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Different experience, maybe the same opinion. 

I fish both Roro-X and Ray's Studio, swap them on my Steez (1000) for different reel use, and like them both in their niches. 

I prefer the larger 34 mm diameter for greater cast distance over smaller BFS-specific reels. 

 

The Roro-X has fixed rotor for lightest possible spool weight, and slight distance advantage at the light end - 1/8 oz, down to 2 g. 

I also fish 7 g with it reliably (just over 1/8 oz)

I use this spool on my inshore glass minnow imitations, where I can cast 3 g to 140'

Like surf casting in miniature. 

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The Ray's Studio honeycomb SV spool has the moving SV rotor complication that adds the equivalent of centrifugal brake, widening the usable weight range.  It doesn't cost much distance at the light end,

I swap to this spool for my all-range BFS bass rod (and carry as a back-up for Roro-X, v-v). 

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I fish a second Ray's Studio full-time on my salt ML niche, and couldn't pry from my cold fingers, etc. 

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Momo (aka AMO) spools are also available from the AMO store on the Express website. 

I have one of these on an Abu and it's a very nice spool - they're actually a parts supplier for Daiwa, and their Daiwa SV version is probably very good. 

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Thank you both for taking the time to reply. Lot's of info to digest here. Now, if I can just find the right links to insure I am buying the rights spool. The lightest bait I will throw will be 1/8 oz, if that helps. 

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2 hours ago, Big Rick said:

Thank you both for taking the time to reply. Lot's of info to digest here. Now, if I can just find the right links to insure I am buying the rights spool. The lightest bait I will throw will be 1/8 oz, if that helps. 

I guess eBay might be your best bet here unless you wanna try Roro where you can order direct from Manufacture. Ebay products  such as SDS custom might not be the original Ray’s but at this price point I doubt the quality gonna be that much difference. They might as well came from same factory in China. What do you want is 34mm spool with no shaft and that is it.

One thing about super light weight spool though, in my experience light weight spool doesn’t like too heavy weight lure. You might get hiccups distance  when using lure 3/8oz or up. Another thing to concern, to get as light as possible, manufacturer has to reduce material some how to get it as thin as possible and still able to hold up. I’m not sure if I like that idea for my 4-5lb bass.

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15 hours ago, QED said:

Anyone have any experience with SDS Custom BFS spools?

we know they're not made in Ukraine. 

Based on his price and style, I believe they are AMO spools, and worth buying. 

 

A thoughtful caveat any time you install an aftermarket spool.  

The spindle width will vary, so open your "zero adjust" knob wide (CCW) before you reinstall the palm plate. Go back and tighten it to adjust end-play on your new spool. 

 

@Big Rick - I'm glad you found this post.  The mass of the AMO spool SV rotor is probably a better match for your SV 103 annular magnets than the super-thin Roro-X spool fixed rotor.  This will give you a good casting brake over a wide lure weight range. 

 

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2 hours ago, Big Rick said:

Thank you both for taking the time to reply. Lot's of info to digest here. Now, if I can just find the right links to insure I am buying the rights spool. The lightest bait I will throw will be 1/8 oz, if that helps. 

I've got several combos that handle #5 Shad Raps (3/16 oz.) fine without an aftermarket spool.  Tried an 1/8 oz. spinnerbait (true weight unknown) and it didn't work as well for me as the Shad Raps.  Could cast it, but accuracy suffered a lot.   Couldn't get the distance I get with the Shad Raps either.

 

But this was before I got my Pixy reels.  I learned to cast the Shad Raps on a TD-Z 105H mounted on an old 7' MLF HMG and with 2 older gold colored Carbonlites.  One on a 7' ML Crankin' Stick and the other a 6'9" LF Falcon Expert...the OG model.

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13 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

we know they're not made in Ukraine. 

Based on his price and style, I believe they are AMO spools, and worth buying. 

 

A thoughtful caveat any time you install an aftermarket spool.  

The spindle width will vary, so open your "zero adjust" knob wide (CCW) before you reinstall the palm plate. Go back and tighten it to adjust end-play on your new spool. 

 

@Big Rick - I'm glad you found this post.  The mass of the AMO spool SV rotor is probably a better match for your SV 103 annular magnets than the super-thin Roro-X spool fixed rotor.  This will give you a good casting brake over a wide lure weight range. 

 

thanks for the treasure trove of info, @bulldog1935  I have searched the web far and wide and can't seem to nail down a BFS spool for a Tatula SV103. I'll continue to dig until I do. This last bit of info will help my narrow my search, I hope. I'll look into AMO spools. Thanks again!

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43 minutes ago, Big Rick said:

thanks for the treasure trove of info, @bulldog1935  I have searched the web far and wide and can't seem to nail down a BFS spool for a Tatula SV103.

This is what I’m afraid off and almost add into my very post “Tatula Sv103”. All the info above are not for your reel, they are for SV103 (old zillion body). You need the one with shaft. Now I think there are two Tatula SV the one with CT frame and smaller one with Tatula 100 frame. I’m not even sure if the spool in interchangeable.

 

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9 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

This is what I’m afraid off and almost add into my very post “Tatula Sv103”. All the info above are not for your reel, they are for SV103 (old zillion body). You need the one with shaft. Now I think there are two Tatula SV the one with CT frame and smaller one with Tatula 100 frame. I’m not even sure if the spool in interchangeable.

 

That's what I was thinking too. Was he talking about the old SV103 or the Tat SV103. 

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Yeah, Daiwa's reel names could be quite confusing sometimes. Even "Tatula SV103" is not good enough, because this:

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/catpage-DAIWARELLS.html?from=basres

can both be called "Tatula SV103", and I am not sure they use the same size spool.

 

It's better to call them by the year, for example, the one for the first link is '20 Tatula SV with a smaller frame. If this is the one for which you're looking for BFS spool, then google "microcast spool for 2020 Tatula SV TW."

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try searching Daiwa Tatula SV103 Microcast spool - the result turn up 33-mm- and 34-mm-dia SVspools. 

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10 hours ago, newapti5 said:

Yeah, Daiwa's reel names could be quite confusing sometimes. Even "Tatula SV103" is not good enough, because this:

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_Tatula_SV_TW_Casting_Reels/descpage-TSVW.html

and that

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Daiwa_Tatula_SV_TWS_Casting_Reels/descpage-TSVCX.html

can both be called "Tatula SV103", and I am not sure they use the same size spool.

 

It's better to call them by the year, for example, the one for the first link is '20 Tatula SV with a smaller frame. If this is the one for which you're looking for BFS spool, then google "microcast spool for 2020 Tatula SV TW."

I have some of all of them, ha! But, the one I am wanting to try the spool on is the TWS version or the second link. So, no clue what spool size or year those are... I feel dumb. 

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1 hour ago, Big Rick said:

I have some of all of them, ha! But, the one I am wanting to try the spool on is the TWS version or the second link. So, no clue what spool size or year those are... I feel dumb. 

 

That's a 33mm size spool. The reel itself was put on the market in 2017, so google "microcast spool for 2017 Tatula SV" and you'll find what you're looking for. 

 

 

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One more question and I'll leave you all alone. I just received a new Tatula Elite and would like to try it as my BFS rig. Is that spool size the same as the '20-21 Tatula SV 103? Thanks again!

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Nope, that's a 34mm size spool, but you know the drill: google "microcast spool for Tatula Elite."

 

 

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I just assumed Rick was talking about the discontinued Daiwa SV103.  You know what they say about assuming.  :mad:

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14 hours ago, new2BC4bass said:

I just assumed Rick was talking about the discontinued Daiwa SV103.  You know what they say about assuming.  :mad:

Well, I was....until I wasn't. I've got a bunch of these reels in various models and years. Thanks for all the help!

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53 minutes ago, Big Rick said:

Well, I was....until I wasn't. I've got a bunch of these reels in various models and years. Thanks for all the help!

For true light weight lure and if I have a choice I would prefer to use free floating spool with no shaft from Daiwa. The shafted spool is not that bad but a little bit of debris, oil or grease between shaft and pinion would restrict spin rate. Even though Shimano come up with shaft bearing support(more spool stability when heavy loaded) but still to get good distance, I would to free it up more and thus compromise with control. 

If I have to choose between Tatula and SV 103, I would rather use SV103.

Why I have pixy, alphas and SS SV and zillion  with Ray’s spool. I do have some from Shimano (shafted) but use Daiwa more.

Im not a true BFSer though don’t quote me on it. I just like to have option if I want to use smaller line or thin braid with bait caster.

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