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I am interested in trying out a Daiwa Tatula in the future. Well, I plan on trying just about every top brand in the future. But after my Shimano SLX combo I plan on saving up for a Daiwa Tatula combo. I will more than likely get a Tatula XT casting rod. But im not sure which Tatula reel to pair with it. Theres so many and I am not sure what the differences are. Theres Tatula 100, 150, 200, 300, CT, Elite, SV TW, and SV TWS. What are the differences? I am a little overwhelmed with the choices lol. 

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I have a number of different models, but if I had to break it down... I would start with any of the following Daiwa reels:

 

1) If you plan to skip lures or throw really light stuff, go with any SV reel, i.e. Tatula SV TW.

 

2) If you want ultimate casting distance (20-30% farther) go with Tatula Elite.  For standard size crankbaits, jerk baits, buzzbaits...

 

3) If Flipping/Pitching - Tatula Elite P/F.

 

4) If heavy cranking - deep cranks, umbrella rigs, etc - 300 series. 

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What FryDog said.

 

The 200 is also a good reel for a-rigs, bigger swimbaits etc.

 

If you're more on a budget, the CT has always been a real solid all-around reel too. 

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You would have to define " bigger swimbaits "

I have 2 Tatula 200 reels, I also have a 300, what I find is that anything over 2.5 oz. the 200 sorta struggles, for lack of a better word. The 200 will work well for baits like the S Waver 168, ect. However it doesn't work so well with baits like the Storm Arashi gliders, and say a Hudd 8" bait.

I think for an all around good reel would be the Tatula 200. As for the Tatula XT rods, I have 2 of them, one is my frogging rod. For the $$ IMHO they are a good deal. 

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If you are looking at building a comparable combo to the SLX and have your heart set in the XT, then I would suggest a new 100. 

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Im just exploring my options in my price range. Financially I cant bring myself to pay more than $500 per combo per year. All my experience comes from Zebcos and Uglystiks. Got really into bassin this year and it is an addiction I am happy to explore. My goal is to try the "best bang for the buck" from Shimano, Lews, Diawa, St. Croix, Dobyns, and Okuma. And from those I will surely learn what I like for which techniques and so on. Just because most people like a Dobyns Fury crankbait rod doesnt mean that I will like it. But, to get that answer I have to try it out for myself. 

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2 hours ago, Blaine Donders said:

If you are looking at building a comparable combo to the SLX and have your heart set in the XT, then I would suggest a new 100. 

Whats the key differences between the 100 and the CT? Would I be correct in assuming the differences between the 100-300 are just the sizes?

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19 hours ago, JoeDeal55 said:

I am interested in trying out a Daiwa Tatula in the future. Well, I plan on trying just about every top brand in the future. But after my Shimano SLX combo I plan on saving up for a Daiwa Tatula combo. I will more than likely get a Tatula XT casting rod. But im not sure which Tatula reel to pair with it. Theres so many and I am not sure what the differences are. Theres Tatula 100, 150, 200, 300, CT, Elite, SV TW, and SV TWS. What are the differences? I am a little overwhelmed with the choices lol. 

100 150 200, and 300 CT are IN A NUTSHELL (I understand there are slight differences lol) the same reel but different sizes. 100 is a great standard jack of all trades baitcast reel. the 150 holds a tad extra line and is meant for bigger lures or lures that have resistance like DD cranks, big squarebills, A rigs, tiny swimbaits like a s waver 120, frogging, and pitching/flipping. The size 200 and 300 are ideal for smaller swimbaits, the 200 handles smaller 2-4 oz swimbaits and the 300 is a more well rounded one for swimbaits, similar to a lexa 300 but not as big These are also ideal for inshore saltwater and can cast heavier weights off the beach effectivley. Yes they make it complicated but it is a nice feature that diawa offers so you can choose the best sized reel.

 

As for SV and TW or SV TW reels, its an upgrade or a more beefed up version of the tatulas. TW stands for T wing, and SV is in a nutshell a upgraded spool, on a short shaft that is effective at throwing lighter lures beecause the spool is lighter.

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17 hours ago, Hammer 4 said:

You would have to define " bigger swimbaits "

I have 2 Tatula 200 reels, I also have a 300, what I find is that anything over 2.5 oz. the 200 sorta struggles, for lack of a better word. The 200 will work well for baits like the S Waver 168, ect. However it doesn't work so well with baits like the Storm Arashi gliders, and say a Hudd 8" bait.

I think for an all around good reel would be the Tatula 200. As for the Tatula XT rods, I have 2 of them, one is my frogging rod. For the $$ IMHO they are a good deal. 

 

I guess "bigger" means something different to everyone. I do think it can easily handle baits up to 4 oz. I have no problems throwing an Arashi Glide with the 200. 

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4 hours ago, JoeDeal55 said:

My goal is to try the "best bang for the buck" from Shimano, Lews, Diawa, St. Croix, Dobyns, and Okuma.

 
I don’t have any experience with the Tatula XT rods, I don’t have a ton of experience in general but I have fished a regular Tatula and they are fantastic rods. I don’t think I’ve heard anything bad about them. If you can swing it, I would go for the regular Tatula. It’s probably Daiwa’s best band for the buck rod

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4 hours ago, PressuredFishing said:

100 150 200, and 300 CT are IN A NUTSHELL (I understand there are slight differences lol) the same reel but different sizes. 100 is a great standard jack of all trades baitcast reel. the 150 holds a tad extra line and is meant for bigger lures or lures that have resistance like DD cranks, big squarebills, A rigs, tiny swimbaits like a s waver 120, frogging, and pitching/flipping. The size 200 and 300 are ideal for smaller swimbaits, the 200 handles smaller 2-4 oz swimbaits and the 300 is a more well rounded one for swimbaits, similar to a lexa 300 but not as big These are also ideal for inshore saltwater and can cast heavier weights off the beach effectivley. Yes they make it complicated but it is a nice feature that diawa offers so you can choose the best sized reel.

 

As for SV and TW or SV TW reels, its an upgrade or a more beefed up version of the tatulas. TW stands for T wing, and SV is in a nutshell a upgraded spool, on a short shaft that is effective at throwing lighter lures beecause the spool is lighter.

Thank you good sir! This actually helped clear up my confusion.

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1 hour ago, NorthernBasser said:

 

I guess "bigger" means something different to everyone. I do think it can easily handle baits up to 4 oz. I have no problems throwing an Arashi Glide with the 200. 

Bigger as in spool capacity and gear size, a size 100 diawa is roughly the same as a size 100 shimano.

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16 minutes ago, PressuredFishing said:

Bigger as in spool capacity and gear size, a size 100 diawa is roughly the same as a size 100 shimano.

Talking about swimbait size...

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12 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said:

Talking about swimbait size...

Oh right, yeah personally I like oversized reels, I feel like the smaller ones get stressed, but your right alot of guys like the smaller reels and just throw em away at the end of a season 

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On 12/8/2021 at 8:46 PM, JoeDeal55 said:

I plan on saving up for a Daiwa Tatula combo.

What do you expect to be throwing on this combo? BTW, the 7'3" MHF XT is a good rod if you like crisp fast action sticks.

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On 12/8/2021 at 8:46 PM, JoeDeal55 said:

But im not sure which Tatula reel to pair with it. Theres so many and I am not sure what the differences are.

The Tatula 100 and CT are quite similar Magforce Z reels with the 100 having a slightly more compact frame. Absolute performance differences are negligible between the 2. The 150 has a larger frame, Magforce Z, but has a metal handle side side-plate. It holds a little bit more line than the CT in actuality, and has similar casting performance throwing the same range of common bass baits. 

 

The 200 has quite a deep spool which holds a lot of line. This increases its total spool weight making it less desirable for throwing common baits on the lower end of the spectrum. It has Magforce, not Magforce Z braking. This works fine with heavier baits, but not so much with lighter baits given its fully loaded heavier spool. Not really a do-all reel, but well suited for throwing baits between 1-3ozs.

 

The 300 is really just a Tatula in name. It's sort of a hybrid that's built more like Daiwa's upper end reels. Closer to a Zillion than a Tatula with its fully supported pinion, only the long spool shaft gives it any commonality with the rest of the Tatula line. It's a big bait Magforce reel and not really well suited for much less.

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8 hours ago, JoeDeal55 said:

Whats the key differences between the 100 and the CT? Would I be correct in assuming the differences between the 100-300 are just the sizes?

There are more differences when you go up than just size, predominantly the spools and brakes. The difference between the 100 and the CT in my experience owning both, is just the ergos. The 100 is smaller and lower. 

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5 hours ago, NorthernBasser said:

 

I guess "bigger" means something different to everyone. I do think it can easily handle baits up to 4 oz. I have no problems throwing an Arashi Glide with the 200. 

 

Yeah you can throw the Arashi with a 200, but...the 300 does it better, i.e. more distance.

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Last year I got a Tatula 100, ended up with 7 of them. Great little reel. I don't throw anything over 1/2oz so I don't know how they would do with heavier baits. I found them for $123 which was a great price for a Tatula.

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10 hours ago, PhishLI said:

What do you expect to be throwing on this combo? BTW, the 7'3" MHF XT is a good rod if you like crisp fast action sticks.

Honestly idk yet. Either a jerkbait/topwater rod or a spinner/chatter rod. 

3 hours ago, zell_pop1 said:

If you are just chucking and winding lures just get a Fuego CT and save some cash.

I am all about saving some cash but I really want to test out the T-wing system. 

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3 hours ago, zell_pop1 said:

If you are just chucking and winding lures just get a Fuego CT and save some cash.

I have a Fuego CT100XS and a Tatula 100H. They are both nice reels. But if push comes to shove, I give the nod to the Tatula.

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7 hours ago, JoeDeal55 said:

Honestly idk yet. Either a jerkbait/topwater rod or a spinner/chatter rod. 

I am all about saving some cash but I really want to test out the T-wing system. 

@JoeDeal55If your looking for a casting reel for 1/2 oz jerkbaits, I'd personally go with the tatula sv tw. For spinner bait/chatter bait, IMO anything from a 100 - 200 size will work depending on your preference. Lots of variables. Sometimes I use an sv reel on chatters or spinnerbait if I'm expecting to throw against the wind and/or if I'm using less aerodynamic creature trailers rather than a zako type trailer. They all perform well with spinnerbaits and chatters......Fuego, CT, 100, SV, Elite, 150, 200. I know were not talking about Shimano much here and it sounds like you want to to try out Daiwa, but a DC reel that has the line pickup speed your looking for will make fishing a chatter and spinnerbaits in windy conditions silly easy.

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SV TW or SV TWS will be the most versatile reel you own. Where it will really pick up is when you are casting into the wind, or light baits, or baits a little light for the rod you have them on. The only time I wouldn't recommend them is if you are focused on getting the last couple of yards out of every cast. They definitely arent for that. As a tradeoff, you get a bunch fewew backlashes, and can make casts in the wind that would otherwise be madness.

 

The difference between the two is neglible - they are different year models; one is sleek and small (the new one) and the old one feels a bit more refine. I have both and don't really make any distinction between the two, but for the smaller one fits the way I palm a little better. 

I bought some tatula elites, they were ... ok I guess, but you can get the SVs for about $150 on sale regularly. 

 

Context - I have fuegos, 100's, a 150, two elites (reg and pitch/flip), and a bunch of both year models of SV, new zillions, and a Steez. Of those, the new zillions are my favorite, but they are 2x the SV price when they are both on sale.

 

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