Cody28 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Hammer 4 said: On that rod that's rated to 3 oz. The norm is that the sweet spot will likely be about 2 oz, anything heavier will possibly make the rod feel over loaded, which then requires a LOB type cast, so you may lose some distance. 6" hudds depending ROF can weigh up to 2 1/2 oz's. I know every rod has its sweet spot, but I have a hard time accepting that the rod would be rated for an entire ounce worth of bait above the point it can safely cast. Based on the lures I have casted on it, I would predict 2.5 would be the heaviest I would be comfortable throwing without lobbing. I have not tried this heavy of a lure yet though so its just my educated guess. Quote
Super User PhishLI Posted January 12, 2022 Super User Posted January 12, 2022 53 minutes ago, Cody28 said: I know every rod has its sweet spot, but I have a hard time accepting that the rod would be rated for an entire ounce worth of bait above the point it can safely cast. Buy enough swim bait rods and you'll find that many if not most are grossly overrated. This is such a commonplace thing that guys in the game simply shrug off the printed data, accept the rod for what it is by using it where it works, then make purchases up or down a line to fit their bait requirements. A short cut is to pay attention on the swim bait pages where you'll find the rod's actual working range in a discussion, or just ask and a real user will tell you. Some rods can be pushed, but you won't know until you put the pedal to the metal. 2 Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted January 12, 2022 Super User Posted January 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, PhishLI said: Buy enough swim bait rods and you'll find that many if not most are grossly overrated. This is such a commonplace thing that guys in the game simply shrug off the printed data, accept the rod for what it is by using it where it works, then make purchases up or down a line to fit their bait requirements. A short cut is to pay attention on the swim bait pages where you'll find the rod's actual working range in a discussion, or just ask and a real user will tell you. Some rods can be pushed, but you won't know until you put the pedal to the metal. I agree with the above statement re: rods are overrated, I wouldn't say Grossly, but enough to maybe mislead those not in the know. This applies to most, if not all brands. 2 Quote
Cody28 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 10 hours ago, PhishLI said: Buy enough swim bait rods and you'll find that many if not most are grossly overrated. This is such a commonplace thing that guys in the game simply shrug off the printed data, accept the rod for what it is by using it where it works, then make purchases up or down a line to fit their bait requirements. A short cut is to pay attention on the swim bait pages where you'll find the rod's actual working range in a discussion, or just ask and a real user will tell you. Some rods can be pushed, but you won't know until you put the pedal to the metal. 9 hours ago, Hammer 4 said: I agree with the above statement re: rods are overrated, I wouldn't say Grossly, but enough to maybe mislead those not in the know. This applies to most, if not all brands. Well thanks for the input. Lucky for me 1-2 oz. is really where Im planning most of this rod's work anyways. I am just more familiar with St. Croix's normal rod lines which are often times under rated. With the 5 year warranty included and my self destructive tinkering, I'll still probably mess around and see if it can handle baits closer to 3 oz. at some point haha. Quote
Thembones Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 Hate to dig up an old post but what did the original author end up getting? Quote
Super User ATA Posted December 21, 2022 Super User Posted December 21, 2022 https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/search-tackle.html?start=0&count=30&prevsearch=dobyns+champion+xp+swimbait&searchtext=dobyns+fury+swimbait Dobyns Fury Casting Rod 8' Heavy Swimbait 806 Quote
Tatulatard Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 Adding my 2 cents. Big bait rods can be either accurately rated, very over rated or very underrated in what they can cast for a big bait. I have a $48 7'4" heavy lews rod on the way that reviews claim is underrated and can cast a 4 oz bait. I'd be happy with 3 oz. It is rated for 2 oz only as a heavy powered rod. I don't have it yet but I belive it might be more of an extra heavy or heavy plus rod. 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 21, 2022 Super User Posted December 21, 2022 Old thread now, the OP hasn’t been evolved for a long time. If I was buying a swimbait rod today the IROD Gen 111 IRG 794SB, 7’9” Heavy/Mod, 3-6 oz swimbaits would do everything the OP wanted and more near his budget. Swimbait rod are 2 handed casting trying to achieve maximum distance. You want the rod to be fully loaded to launch the heavier lures without being concerned about the rod. This rod will cast everything from 1 oz to 3 oz S-Wavers to 68 & 8” Hudds, rats, etc. Tom 2 Quote
Dangerfield Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 I've read good things about the Daiwa Tatula Bass swimbait rods, not the DX. Split grips, power handle above the reel seat, 7'3" is rated up to 4oz, and the 7'9" up to 6oz. Quote
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