QED Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 So why aren't the subject brakes called "inertial" or "centripetal" brakes? Centrifugal force is a fictitious force used in weird, non-inertial frames of reference and leads to un-rigorous mental models of how physics actually works. An explanation would take too long here but below are some concise references: https://www.britannica.com/science/centrifugal-force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_force https://www.wired.com/2009/04/centripetal-vs-centrifugal-word-origins/ There, rant off - I feel better even though I'm sure no one else cares! 4 1 Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted December 7, 2021 Super User Posted December 7, 2021 “Why” is easy. Because the vast majority of average folks (think they) know what centrifugal force is, but most have never heard of centripetal force. It’s really that simple. Like how everyone knows what bacon is, but somehow pork belly became some fantastical nouveau gourmet dish lol. 1 3 Quote
GRiver Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 10 hours ago, QED said: So why aren't the subject brakes called "inertial" or "centripetal" brakes? Centrifugal force is a fictitious force used in weird, non-inertial frames of reference and leads to un-rigorous mental models of how physics actually works. An explanation would take too long here but below are some concise references: https://www.britannica.com/science/centrifugal-force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_force https://www.wired.com/2009/04/centripetal-vs-centrifugal-word-origins/ There, rant off - I feel better even though I'm sure no one else cares! I understand where your coming from….. a spinning reel should be call an orbital reel, the line retrieving devise orbits the fixed spool. The only time the spool actually moves in a overload situation. Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted December 7, 2021 Super User Posted December 7, 2021 You have my sympathy. Every time I read "it's" in print, and it's used for possessive, I want to puke. English teachers nowadays are a case of the blind leading the blind. jj 3 Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted December 7, 2021 Super User Posted December 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said: You have my sympathy. Every time I read "it's" in print, and it's used for possessive, I want to puke. English teachers nowadays are a case of the blind leading the blind. jj Blame autocorrect lol. I constantly have to change that. I’m a stickler for correct grammar, pronunciation, usage and spelling. 12 years of parochial school does that to you lol. 1 Quote
JS8588 Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 I've been aware of this since 5th grade science class, but it's colloquial at this point, so I just accept it. 1 Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted December 7, 2021 Super User Posted December 7, 2021 Reason: Product names are created by the marketing department not the engineering department and marketing people have never cared about accuracy or honesty. There, that's my rant. 2 Quote
Chris Catignani Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 Shimano just calls it Variable Brake System (VBS). Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted December 7, 2021 Super User Posted December 7, 2021 I figure it don't skin my teeth. It won't peeve me unless it grabs my braid on a back-cast. Quote
jimanchower Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 You’ll like my pet peeve, and I’m being 100% serious that this drives me up the wall: People who begin stories with “So…” Number two is ending every other sentence with “…right?” 1 Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted December 8, 2021 Super User Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, jimanchower said: You’ll like my pet peeve, and I’m being 100% serious that this drives me up the wall: People who begin stories with “So…” Number two is ending every other sentence with “…right?” So, that really is your pet peeve, right? ? 2 Quote
Chris Catignani Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 1 hour ago, jimanchower said: Number two is ending every other sentence with “…right?” I see your point. Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 8, 2021 Super User Posted December 8, 2021 If you want to speak bass fishing terminology forget being technically correct. Try defining grass, cover, structure etc. Tom Quote
Linewinder Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, WRB said: If you want to speak bass fishing terminology forget being technically correct. Try defining grass, cover, structure etc. Tom So, its where the bass is, right? Quote
Kenny Yi Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 i always feel itchy when someone says flipping when they really mean PITCHING, the techniques are completely different 1 Quote
Super User Bankc Posted December 8, 2021 Super User Posted December 8, 2021 In most things outside of the scientific community, language is fluid. Words aren't chosen to limit confusion, but rather to push sales. And you'll make more sales by confirming to customers what they already want to believe than you will by teaching them complex new words and concepts. If you think that's bad, don't pick up guitar. It's bad enough that there are many terms that are coherent within the guitar community are completely at odds with their more scientific definitions. What's worse is you've got many examples of the same word taking on completely different meanings from different companies within the guitar world! Like what Fender calls "tremolo" most other brands call "vibrato" and vice-versa. Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted December 8, 2021 Super User Posted December 8, 2021 If I was going into the fishing reels business I would use Subspace Antimatter Brakes on all my reels. People are willing to pay for the best technology. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 8, 2021 Super User Posted December 8, 2021 18 hours ago, jimanchower said: People who begin stories with “So…” Drives me nuts. People need to stop, so they don't sound dumb anymore. 1 Quote
QED Posted December 8, 2021 Author Posted December 8, 2021 Slightly off topic but the use of the introductory "so" is not a new thing and if F. Scott Fitzgerald used it, then so can you: https://www.npr.org/2015/09/03/432732859/so-whats-the-big-deal-with-starting-a-sentence-with-so Quote
garroyo130 Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 If were going down that rabbit hole then welcome to sunfishresource.com since a bass isnt really a bass ... Quote
Super User Tennessee Boy Posted December 8, 2021 Super User Posted December 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, garroyo130 said: If were going down that rabbit hole then welcome to sunfishresource.com since a bass isnt really a bass ... Largemouth and Smallmouth bass are not in the temperate bass family (Moronidae) which is how the ugly rumor got started that they are not bass. They are in the sunfish family (Centrarchidae) and they are in the black bass genus (Micropterus). So they are both sunfish and bass. (Notice how I started the sentence with so ) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micropterus 1 Quote
Big Rick Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/7/2021 at 8:15 AM, jimmyjoe said: You have my sympathy. Every time I read "it's" in print, and it's used for possessive, I want to puke. English teachers nowadays are a case of the blind leading the blind. jj Mine is the incorrect use of you're and your. One is a contraction and one shows possession. I don't quite get nauseated, but it does make my eye twitch.... Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 9, 2021 Super User Posted December 9, 2021 Do you know the difference between recurring and reoccurring? "Bass" is a common name and doesn't share the same distinction as scientific nomenclature. A LMB is most certainly a bass. So is a sea bass and a litany of other fish given that distinction. By my argument, a Chilean sea bass is a bass even though the name is strictly marketing. This is why I'm okay with centrifugal brakes. I also started a sentence with "so." Correctly, I might add. 1 Quote
Jaderose Posted December 9, 2021 Posted December 9, 2021 Wow.....it's not even January yet. ? 2 1 Quote
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