Power, action and lure

[MacJig]

Is anyone aware of a site that provides a simple, easy to read listing of the various rod combinations (ie. medium fast, ML moderate fast, etc.) and the type of lures that would be appropriate for those rods. I think that info for both spinning and casting rods would be useful. Many thx. 

[BayouSlide]

https://fishrook.com/2021-ultimate-bass-lure-selection-chart/

[MacJig]

20 minutes ago, BayouSlide said:

https://fishrook.com/2021-ultimate-bass-lure-selection-chart/

Fabulous. thank you !

[WRB]

Keep this in mind, no standard to rate power and action is subjective. Bait casting and spinning rods use different casting motion therefor have different action.

Most popular rod builders today list suggested line and recommended lure and weight to use for the rods particular use.

Tackle Warehouse does has listing for lure weights and information for each rod listed.

Mfr’s like Dobyns and St Croix also list lure, weight, line etc for thier Rods.

Tom

[Fishin Dad]

4 hours ago, BayouSlide said:

https://fishrook.com/2021-ultimate-bass-lure-selection-chart/

That is a really great chart!   I wish I would have seen that when I was new to bassin’!   That is really good info in there.  Nice find!!

[PBBrandon]

BassForecast tells you what lures to use for certain conditions and when you click on the lure it tells you what kind of rod and reel to use. Pretty neat but the full version ain’t free. Like 10 bucks a year though so it’s worth it IMO

[Fat Ika]

It is nice that someone took the time to compile this. Useful for those that are just starting out. As @WRBmentioned this is very subjective. I’m not throwing a Jika rig with a light wire # 1 hook plus a 1/16 oz cylinder weight with a whatever finesse plastic, on MH casting gear with minimum of 15# test.

[WRB]

If you rearrange the posted chart by rod power/action/length you see the casting MH/fast 7’ -7’6” with 15 lb /25 FC used for about 1/2 the lists. Your basic bass rod.

Tom

[Choporoz]

On 1/29/2016 at 12:36 PM, Choporoz said:

Someone on here created and posted a pretty nice chart.  I can't find the link, but here's a picture of it.  Wish I knew the OP's handle, because credit is due!

 

 

[WRB]

When I started bass fishing in the 50’s up until the  90’s about 40 years we had 1 bass rod in different lengths ranging from 5’6” to 6’6” outside of that was a custom built rod.

I made a custom crank bait rod in the 70’s from Fenwick popping rod blank that is close to today’s crank bait rods.

Gary Dobyns broke the mold and offered application specific rods off the self. Rods designed for specific lures, lengths and presentations. Today every rod builder has specific application rods.  The 7’ MH Fast action rod is the basic bass rod with 12-15 lb mono that can do nearly everything well for bass fishing. You can add the 7’ Medium fast action spinning rod with 8 lb mono to do everything finesse in bass fishing. 2 combo cover the weekend angler, no chart needed.

Tom

[MacJig]

10 hours ago, Choporoz said:

 

Many thanks. This really is useful. I'm an experienced angler. But if I want to try something new a chart like this helps immensely!

[MacJig]

12 hours ago, WRB said:

When I started bass fishing in the 50’s up until the  90’s about 40 years we had 1 bass rod in different lengths ranging from 5’6” to 6’6” outside of that was a custom built rod.

I made a custom crank bait rod in the 70’s from Fenwick popping rod blank that is close to today’s crank bait rods.

Gary Dobyns broke the mold and offered application specific rods off the self. Rods designed for specific lures, lengths and presentations. Today every rod builder has specific application rods.  The 7’ MH Fast action rod is the basic bass rod with 12-15 lb mono that can do nearly everything well for bass fishing. You can add the 7’ Medium fast action spinning rod with 8 lb mono to do everything finesse in bass fishing. 2 combo cover the weekend angler, no chart needed.

Tom

Thx my friend. Yeah, I started fishing (Pike) back in the early 60s. A lot has changed since then. The selection of rods and reels has just exploded! Not always good.

[MickD]

22 hours ago, WRB said:

Keep this in mind, no standard to rate power and action is subjective. Bait casting and spinning rods use different casting motion therefor have different action.

Most popular rod builders today list suggested line and recommended lure and weight to use for the rods particular use.

Tackle Warehouse does has listing for lure weights and information for each rod listed.

Mfr’s like Dobyns and St Croix also list lure, weight, line etc for thier Rods.

Tom

I'm don't think you are correct on the spinning and casting rods having different actions (because they are called "spinning" or "casting" or due to the ergonomics of casting) .  Interestingly, a few years ago, Anglers Resource introduced a line of premium blanks for rod builders of many different lengths, powers, and actions, and there was no mention of whether they were casting or spinning blanks.  Builders just build them into what they want to build them o into.  Most custom rod builders understand that many blanks with different specified model numbers called "spinning" and "casting" are actually the same blanks.  Whether glass or graphite, any blank can have any action and any power.  Not necessarily the same recovery time from deflection.  Yes, generally, casting rods have slower actions, but not because of the ergonomics of casting.  It's because they generally are used for treble hook lures which most fishermen think need slower actions to keep them from tearing out.  But in fact it is not so much "action" that does that as much as  it is "power."  The Point Blank series has proven to be very versatile in spite of the fact that most are fast or extra fast action high modulus graphite blanks.  And are being built into both casting and spinning rods.

[Scott804]

While those lists are a good place to start, keep in mind a good portion of techniques can be pretty subjective. I know guys who throw bladed jigs on H/XF rods with braid whereas I throw them on a medium moderate glass rod. If you feel like you might do better with a faster/slower/different line type/power then try it out and see. 

[LrgmouthShad]

On 12/4/2021 at 2:34 PM, BayouSlide said:

https://fishrook.com/2021-ultimate-bass-lure-selection-chart/

That doesn't seem bad at all. I might only have a few disagreements, same as everybody because we are opinionated creatures

[GreenPig]

11 minutes ago, LrgmouthShad said:

That doesn't seem bad at all. I might only have a few disagreements, same as everybody because we are opinionated creatures

Like Spybaits on 10 - 20 lb FC? 

[LrgmouthShad]

12 minutes ago, GreenPig said:

Like Spybaits on 10 - 20 lb FC? 

Oh gosh yeah that’s totally outrageous. I know because I researched what a spy bait is in 30sec and can already tell it’s outrageous. 

[Trox]

I can't be the only one who just mentally "graded" their setups based off of these charts ?

[Gera]

take this with a grain of salt and the over protection of my company's antivirus. this is what i got when I click the link

 

[BayouSlide]

45 minutes ago, Gera said:

take this with a grain of salt and the over protection of my company's antivirus. this is what i got when I click the link

 

 

Never a problem here from when I first downloaded the file a while back or when I redownloaded it before posting the link. Of course, YMMV.