Best fly / lure for most any freshwater fish. IF you can see it moving in the water.

[cyclops2]

Laugh time.    

 

I have several Muddler Minnows. LARGE ones.  BB size or smaller split shot 4' ahead of it are required to get it to the bottom. 4# Monofilament.  Flyrod or long soft action spinning rod.  

Cast upstream into any currents. Small fish about 3" to 9" will attack the BB split shot.  Can test your abilities to think what is going wrong.  Nothing   But the crowd of little fish swimming aggressively WILL  WILL bring in bigger fish attacking them.   Eventually a biggie hits the black or brown  Muddler Minnow. 

 

Dragged slowly thru a school of carp ?  20 to 30 pounds of fish on 4 # test ?    I have learned to tie the Muddler.  I use a VERY SOFT body material .  2 corn nibblets on the hook.  Allow enough time to set the hook.

[Catt]

That's strange you should mention fly fishing. I've been asked 3 or 4 times recently about it.

 

I fly fished for bass years ago, is this a trend starting?

[cyclops2]

I just get bored when there are lots of easy hook ups.  The weighted fly is really like a sinking lure.  No barb on the hook. So when he ? she ? runs out all the backing ?  Yeah  It was a test I failed. But the fish easily spits out the barbless hook.  4 # test is usually about 8 # to 10 # breaking with a great knot.

[flyfisher]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

That's strange you should mention fly fishing. I've been asked 3 or 4 times recently about it.

 

I fly fished for bass years ago, is this a trend starting?

I think fishing for smallies it is pretty common to see fly fisherman, or any type of moving water.  Flatwater fly fishing isn't as prevalent really that I have seen.  I also think with it getting colder and people using the float and fly technique gets people thinking about another method to catch fish.  

 

1 hour ago, cyclops2 said:

Laugh time.    

 

I have several Muddler Minnows. LARGE ones.  BB size or smaller split shot 4' ahead of it are required to get it to the bottom. 4# Monofilament.  Flyrod or long soft action spinning rod.  

Cast upstream into any currents. Small fish about 3" to 9" will attack the BB split shot.  Can test your abilities to think what is going wrong.  Nothing   But the crowd of little fish swimming aggressively WILL  WILL bring in bigger fish attacking them.   Eventually a biggie hits the black or brown  Muddler Minnow. 

 

Dragged slowly thru a school of carp ?  20 to 30 pounds of fish on 4 # test ?    I have learned to tie the Muddler.  I use a VERY SOFT body material .  2 corn nibblets on the hook.  Allow enough time to set the hook.

Eh, I am not a fan of the muddler minnow but it is effective.  It is a really classic pattern that has been around for probably close to a century.  

[cyclops2]

Hey

I am close to a century.    ?

[TnRiver46]

I like the muddler minnow quite a bit 

[scaleface]

I tried fly fishing for bass when I was young  . I didnt catch enough to keep me interested  . I had one of those "moths" that was mentioned  in Sports Afield or other outdoor magazine . Had a hair mouse too .Dont think I ever caught a fish on either one  . I liked those green sponge spiders that Homer Circle raved about and slow sinking honey bees but mainly caught bluegills .

[WRB]

Bass it’s hard do better then using streamers.

Tom

[The Bassman]

When I was a teenager I would fly fish Muddlers at carp in our local creek. I called it poor mans' bonefishing. 

[Catt]

Toro Creek below Toledo Bend is as close as it gets down here.

 

 

[cyclops2]

Opening day of Trout season in N J. 

 

Cast hook with 4 kernels of corn on it. ZIIIPPPP  the flash of a hitting fish as it goes about 100' in 3 seconds.

WWWAAAAHHOOOOO   I am taking home a huge breeder Rainbow Trout. 5 minutes more of unstoppable runs both ways in the little creek.  I am releasing a fantastic MALE carp.

Do no confuse females & males of most fish. 

 

Catt

 

Beautiful stream there. ?

[flyfisher]

On 11/25/2021 at 5:35 AM, The Bassman said:

When I was a teenager I would fly fish Muddlers at carp in our local creek. I called it poor mans' bonefishing. 

Highly underrated fish.  I have had some truly memorable days catching carp on my 4wt when they were feeding on caddis.  Nothing beats having a fish take you into your backing and in freshwater, they are probably the only ones that will.

 

[cyclops2]

I have never figured where a carp has stored all that energy. And how long they can maintain the power level. I have played a carp for 20 minutes in a slow river She was almost as fast & strong as at the start.  Like trying to beach a Bass Boat using the trolling motor.

The 20 pounders are very long fighters on 10# test . I have a lightweight saltwater reel with almost 600' of line. I have had to start walking after the carp to prevent it emptying the spool. Catch & released carp are very different in a river. They start going downstream for ever. Until the line breaks. I use a tapered fly line leader tied to the hook. Just the hook is left in the fish. Not a whole reel full of line.