Reels for Braid with Fluoro leader

[ajschn06]

If I plan to use braid with a fluorocarbon, should I be looking at certain reels?  I don't think I could do a braid-fluoro leader with my Tatula.

[jimmyjoe]

   From the way you worded your post, are we to assume that you're talking about casting reels only?      jj

 

[MN Fisher]

If it is a casting reel

I use braid with occasional flouro leaders on both a Fuego CT and a Patriarch...don't use leaders all the time, just certain techniques.

I dunno why a Tatula wouldn't work - even if it's the Tatula CT as it's almost identical to a Fuego CT.

 

Spinners - I've got braid to leader on a Mitchell Avocet RZT-3000 and a Pflueger President-25...no issues there, and they're 'budget' reels...a Tatula LT should be more than capable.

[ajschn06]

16 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said:

   From the way you worded your post, are we to assume that you're talking about casting reels only?      jj

 

Correct

13 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

If it is a casting reel

I use braid with occasional flouro leaders on both a Fuego CT and a Patriarch...don't use leaders all the time, just certain techniques.

I dunno why a Tatula wouldn't work - even if it's the Tatula CT as it's almost identical to a Fuego CT.

 

Spinners - I've got braid to leader on a Mitchell Avocet RZT-3000 and a Pflueger President-25...no issues there, and they're 'budget' reels...a Tatula LT should be more than capable.

 

When I try to do it with a Tatula, the knot won't make it through the T-wing.  The Fuego doesn't have that.

[MN Fisher]

36 minutes ago, ajschn06 said:

When I try to do it with a Tatula, the knot won't make it through the T-wing.  The Fuego doesn't have that.

What knot are you using - FG, Albright or Alberto shouldn't have an issue.

[ChrisO91]

37 minutes ago, ajschn06 said:

Correct

 

When I try to do it with a Tatula, the knot won't make it through the T-wing.  The Fuego doesn't have that.

Try a shorter leader.

[BobbyBudnick]

I can run 30 pound power pro braid with 15 pound trilene big game mono leaders on my t-wing daiwa casting reels. I like 10-12ft leaders and I don't have issues with the t-wing. I use the Shin knot for my braid to leader knot. It's slimmer than the Alberto knot and seems just as strong. 

[jimmyjoe]

   I tried to use a leader knot that rolled into the spool.  Not good. Not good at all. At the time, I had a Fuego CT100, and I used the Crazy Alberto knot.

   I may be old and cantankerous, but if reality hits me upside the head with a 2x4 hard enough, I  can learn. I now use straight fluoro; InvizX in 12 or 15 lb. test.

 

   No more problems.  ?            jj

[ajschn06]

15 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said:

   I tried to use a leader knot that rolled into the spool.  Not good. Not good at all. At the time, I had a Fuego CT100, and I used the Crazy Alberto knot.

   I may be old and cantankerous, but if reality hits me upside the head with a 2x4 hard enough, I  can learn. I now use straight fluoro; InvizX in 12 or 15 lb. test.

 

   No more problems.  ?            jj

Straight fluoro is certainly preferable, but it's going to be a jig and frog rod.  Definitely need the braid for Frogs, could probably get by with straight braid for jigs but wanted to try it with a leader too...

[jimmyjoe]

3 hours ago, ajschn06 said:

Straight fluoro is certainly preferable, but it's going to be a jig and frog rod.  Definitely need the braid for Frogs, could probably get by with straight braid for jigs but wanted to try it with a leader too...

 

   Then you can expect there to be a learning curve. As @Chris091 suggested, it may be necessary to shorten your leader.    jj

[matbellon3]

All my t-wing reels will pass a leader knot just fine and handle using 10ft+ leaders. As far as a specific reels that I feel pass leader knots well are the 2013 Metanium and 2016 Metanium.

[ajschn06]

14 minutes ago, matbellon3 said:

All my t-wing reels will pass a leader knot just fine and handle using 10ft+ leaders. As far as a specific reels that I feel pass leader knots well are the 2013 Metanium and 2016 Metanium.

Thanks- sounds like I need to work on my knot then 

[softwateronly]

10 hours ago, ajschn06 said:

Thanks- sounds like I need to work on my knot then 

I think what size line you want to use has consequences with tws.  I don't like my Tat 200 with an FG knot with 65lb PowerPro to 20lb maxima.  If I was using 40lb PP  to maxima 15lb with an fg, there's enough room in the tws to fish comfortably in my opinion.

 

scott

 

Using braid to leader like I prefer, puts me more in the shimano camp for reels, unfortunately. 

[Lead Head]

I have had really good success fishing jigs with a 5'6"-6' fc leader. I want it outside the tip when pitching and outside the spool when casting. I use 40lb 832 to 25lb sniper for fishing jigs in rocks, the fc holds up much better than straight braid. 

 

I don't know your reasons for wanting a longer leader, but if you can settle for shorter you can use any reel you want. 

 

[ajschn06]

17 minutes ago, Lead Head said:

I have had really good success fishing jigs with a 5'6"-6' fc leader. I want it outside the tip when pitching and outside the spool when casting. I use 40lb 832 to 25lb sniper for fishing jigs in rocks, the fc holds up much better than straight braid. 

 

I don't know your reasons for wanting a longer leader, but if you can settle for shorter you can use any reel you want. 

 

I’d prefer the shortest leader possible to be honest, but wasn’t sure how short I could go without putting too much stress on the knot when setting the hook 

[MN Fisher]

All short leaders do is give a bit of visibility change, they don't have enough stretch to give any shock absorption on hook-set.

[Lead Head]

I swing pretty hard and haven't failed a leader knot on hookset yet, and I use what is considered a sub-par leader knot. The "not really a GT knot" from a misinformed YouTube video that I started using close to 2 years ago still hasn't given me a reason to give up on it and is super fast and easy to tie.