Ned rig to the rescue...

[Blue Raider Bob]

On 11/8/2021 at 2:22 PM, CrashVector said:

Like this.

 

Makes it's much more weedless and ensures it stands upright.  Weight glued into one end, rigging hook on the other.

 

This catches fish when literally nothing else will, and fully 80% of the big fish I've caught this year were caught on one of these.

 

The big TRD works best with a standard shanked 1/0 worm hook.

A picture sure clears things up. Thanks for taking the time. I fish a exposed head jig Ned Rig most of the time in current on the Tennessee River. My major problem is hang-ups. I do it because it works. The Spots and Smallies can't stand it. They have to go smash it but fighting the current to retrieve a ned is time consuming. Always looking for a better way. Can't wait to try this rig Sunday.

[CrashVector]

6 minutes ago, Blue Raider Bob said:

A picture sure clears things up. Thanks for taking the time. I fish a exposed head jig Ned Rig most of the time in current on the Tennessee River. My major problem is hang-ups. I do it because it works. The Spots and Smallies can't stand it. They have to go smash it but fighting the current to retrieve a ned is time consuming. Always looking for a better way. Can't wait to try this rig Sunday.

 

Not a problem

 

I've used it this entire year, and have found a few things: the line tie on the jig head will still snag in rip rap, but comes through heavy weeds pretty well.

 

When sight fishing with it in clear water, I sat and watched the fish's reaction to it.  Casting it too close to them will make them swim a short distance away and just look at it.  Usually on the first hop, they dart back in close, maybe to get a better look/smell.

 

I noticed when I soaked the lures in the package with either procure or liquid mayhem, 90% of the time, they'd sit there for a second, then dart in and eat it.  Otherwise, I'd jiggle my rod tip to shake the lure, then they'd hit it.

 

[leinad]

my number one rig and just started using it this summer, RARE when they don't produce. 

[MickD]

Earlier this month on St Clair the Strike King Ocho in "moon juice" outifished my Neds.

 

Beautiful lure, looks so good I almost want to eat them.

[Bluebasser86]

On 11/26/2021 at 2:57 PM, MickD said:

Earlier this month on St Clair the Strike King Ocho in "moon juice" outifished my Neds.

 

Beautiful lure, looks so good I almost want to eat them.

Moon Juice is one of my favorite SK plastic colors. A Moon Juice Menace or Bug on a swing head with the tips of the tails dipped in chartreuse JJ's is a killer combo. 

[MickD]

8 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

killer combo. 

Largemouth or smallies?

[Bluebasser86]

19 minutes ago, MickD said:

Largemouth or smallies?

Both, but it helped me win a tournament a couple years ago with a 5 fish bag that was all smallmouth and accounted for the largest that was a crawdad shy of 5lbs, a massive smallmouth for Kansas.

[Smallies]

On 11/8/2021 at 12:22 PM, CrashVector said:

Like this.

 

Makes it's much more weedless and ensures it stands upright.  Weight glued into one end, rigging hook on the other.

 

This catches fish when literally nothing else will, and fully 80% of the big fish I've caught this year were caught on one of these.

 

The big TRD works best with a standard shanked 1/0 worm hook.

This just blew my mind...

On 11/7/2021 at 7:26 AM, Team9nine said:

I get the impression many people think the 6 retrieve styles of Midwest Finesse are a little hokey, or gimmicky, or you just do whatever you see on some ‘new to the party’ YouTuber video and you’ll be fine, but they are there for a reason ? As my geometry teacher always said, “That do make a difference.”

Are you referring here to the original Ned (forget his last name) and that video where he explains all the ways he retrieves the Ned Rig?  Gotta watch that one again, and commit those to memory.

 

 

[CrashVector]

Retrieve on a Ned rig for ME consists of one of two things:. Cast and let it deadstick for 5-7 sec, followed by a very small hop.  Most of my bites have been on that first hop.

 

The bass will sit there watching it deadstick, then crush it as soon as they see it move.

 

Other method is a simple slow drag.

[Bluebasser86]

6 hours ago, Smallies said:

This just blew my mind...

Are you referring here to the original Ned (forget his last name) and that video where he explains all the ways he retrieves the Ned Rig?  Gotta watch that one again, and commit those to memory.

 

 

Ned Kehde. He's from about 30 minutes away from me and we run into each other on the water pretty frequently.

 

The swim-shake-glide is by far my favorite presentation. My bait is rarely, if ever on the bottom except maybe the initial fall to find the bottom. Even in very cold water like this time of year, with a 1/16oz head, the bait is moving so slowly that the fish have no problem running it down. 

[Smallies]

5 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Ned Kehde. He's from about 30 minutes away from me and we run into each other on the water pretty frequently.

 

Dude, this guy has got to be well into his eighties now, and he looks GREAT in this video I just watched where he says he's 80 - 25 fish an HOUR is his goal, and has been since 2008 or so.  What a champ.  I couldn't dream of anything near that.  

 

 

It's a Looooong video, but worth the watch IMO.  

 

6 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

The swim-shake-glide is by far my favorite presentation. My bait is rarely, if ever on the bottom except maybe the initial fall to find the bottom.

 

So, it's a let it fall on it's initial fall, while shaking during the fall.  Then, reel it a couple full reels (which, b/c you're using a really light Ned Head, it will make it come up in the water column a few feet).  Then, the glide is the bait pendulumming (is that a word?) back to you and during this glide back you are shaking as well — do I have that right?

 

[Bluebasser86]

29 minutes ago, Smallies said:

Dude, this guy has got to be well into his eighties now, and he looks GREAT in this video I just watched where he says he's 80 - 25 fish an HOUR is his goal, and has been since 2008 or so.  What a champ.  I couldn't dream of anything near that.  

 

It's a Looooong video, but worth the watch IMO.  

 

 

So, it's a let it fall on it's initial fall, while shaking during the fall.  Then, reel it a couple full reels (which, b/c you're using a really light Ned Head, it will make it come up in the water column a few feet).  Then, the glide is the bait pendulumming (is that a word?) back to you and during this glide back you are shaking as well — do I have that right?

 

I know he and his wife are both in their 80's but still get out at least a time or two a week. He doesn't usually go for 4 hour trips like he use to and anymore he's pretty negative in his reports, you'd think the lakes around here barely had a fish left in them.

 

I was using a swim-shake-glide in this video. Pitched it up at the banks and let it fall to the bottom. As soon as my line stopped sinking, I started the retrieve and the bait never touched bottom again, although the time between start of the retrieve and the bite didn't give it much time.

 

[Smallies]

Nice fish, Blue!  And beautiful Golden ... love those dogs. 

 

So looks like you don't (or didn't) shake it on the initial fall, and then sort of shake and retrieve at the same time.  

 

I gotta play around with my retrieve till I find what works, but this is where I'm gonna start.

[TnRiver46]

36 minutes ago, Smallies said:

Nice fish, Blue!  And beautiful Golden ... love those dogs. 

 

So looks like you don't (or didn't) shake it on the initial fall, and then sort of shake and retrieve at the same time.  

 

I gotta play around with my retrieve till I find what works, but this is where I'm gonna start.

My buddies just throw it out over 50 foot of water and forget about it. It’s surprisingly effective

[Smallies]

11 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

My buddies just throw it out over 50 foot of water and forget about it. It’s surprisingly effective

Oh man, wish I could just do that ... fishing from the bank, so I'm gonna have to work it a little.

[Bluebasser86]

On 12/3/2021 at 10:19 AM, TnRiver46 said:

My buddies just throw it out over 50 foot of water and forget about it. It’s surprisingly effective

This is how my kids catch most of their fish on it. Just cast it out, let it sink, let it sit until they remember their bait is in the water, then reel their fish in. It works from the bank also, especially around where there is wave action that will make the bait wobble around on the bottom. 

On 12/3/2021 at 9:42 AM, Smallies said:

Nice fish, Blue!  And beautiful Golden ... love those dogs. 

 

So looks like you don't (or didn't) shake it on the initial fall, and then sort of shake and retrieve at the same time.  

 

I gotta play around with my retrieve till I find what works, but this is where I'm gonna start.

They're good dogs and both of them do well in the boat. My older dog has been going since she was 4 months old, she's 9 now. 

 

The initial fall, I'm line watching for signs of strikes on the fall. Then it's a steady retrieve that stays near the bottom after that.