Global Moderator Mike L Posted October 25, 2021 Global Moderator Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, WRB said: Tatsu is good FC but not heads and shoulders better then Sunline mid range Sniper or premium Shooter, in fact no difference in casting or knot strength. It’s a personal choice imo. I’ve been saying this for years and my opinion hasn’t changed Mike 1 1
Super User MickD Posted October 25, 2021 Super User Posted October 25, 2021 5 hours ago, WRB said: FC offers only 1 advantage over mono line for bass fishing, it’s doesn’t float. Good observation. And for some techniques this advantage is a disadvantage. IMHO, except for leaders, there is no reason to use FC. I'll be glad to ship you my half spools of FC, just pay the shipping. I have quite a few. 1
jbrew73 Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 We all have our own opinions so take this with a grain of salt. In my opinion, as hateful as fluorocarbon can be it is undoubtedly better suited than nylon mono to transfer what is happening to my lure to my hands. For my money Sunline Sniper is not only cost effective but works better than even Tatsu for my use. 3
PaulVE64 Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 Braid to a mono leader. I say why not? For my applications it covers 95% of what i do on spinning tackle on the river chasing smallies. 1
RDB Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 No need to spool an entire reel with Fluoro...50-60 yards is plenty. Otherwise, there have been a lot of good choices mentioned. As far as memory, I personally am not a fan of line conditioners. When I get some memory (which for me is usually when the reel has been out of commission for a while), a little stretch will remove. There were some comments on another post about weakening or stretching the line out of shape which I have never found to be true. I put way more stress on hooksets, fish fights, and hangups than I do removing line memory.
LonnieP Posted October 26, 2021 Posted October 26, 2021 I’ve tried several fluorocarbon lines and I settled with P-Line Tactical. Been using it for several years and very happy with it. 1
padon Posted October 26, 2021 Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/25/2021 at 1:20 AM, Lead Head said: My normal response to people asking about fluorocarbon is seaguar invizx or sunline sniper. If those 2 are unmanageable, or too expensive for you, you will probably be a far happier fisherman if you stick to a quality mono. those 2 would be my suggestion.
cottny27 Posted October 26, 2021 Posted October 26, 2021 Academy Sports has InvizX for $18. I think for that cost it can’t be beat.
Super User Choporoz Posted October 26, 2021 Super User Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/25/2021 at 10:58 AM, Luke Barnes said: I use Yo-Zuri hybrid on two other reels and like it alot, just want a little less stretch and durability for t rigs in cover. I use Invisx, Abrasx, and YZH. Temper your expectations. YZH is far from perfect. But stretch and durability are two of the better aspects of YZH that you won't easily match with fluoro. I absolutely think you should experiment with quality fluoro....and mono. But compare similar diameters in in similar conditions. And don't go into it expecting revolutionary upgrades. You will develop your own preferences, but oftentimes the differences are more subtle than we want. 1
Super User MN Fisher Posted October 26, 2021 Super User Posted October 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Choporoz said: YZH is far from perfect. But stretch and durability are two of the better aspects of YZH that you won't easily match with fluoro. I'll second the YZH recommendation - I use 12# on my crank rig and 4# on my ML/MF rig. Long as you treat it with KVD L&L it's pretty manageable. 1
Luke Barnes Posted October 26, 2021 Author Posted October 26, 2021 4 hours ago, MN Fisher said: I'll second the YZH recommendation - I use 12# on my crank rig and 4# on my ML/MF rig. Long as you treat it with KVD L&L it's pretty manageable. I'm guessing YZH is yo-zuri hybrid. I run it on my moving bait setup. Mainly chatterbaits and paddletails and occasionally a spinnerbait. Its my favorite line but I just want a little less stretch and even Yo-Zuri top knot seems to transfer vibrations a bit better. So thats why I want straight fluoro. Less stretch, but not braid no stretch, it sinks and is used solely for bottom contact baits, is pretty tough and abrasion resistant. Then the whole invisible underwater thing is an added bonus. On my spinning rods i use for bass I run braid with fluoro leader and its great, I just want a bit more stretch than braid.
Global Moderator Mike L Posted October 26, 2021 Global Moderator Posted October 26, 2021 InvizX stretches more than any other flouro. As stated Sniper or Shooter will fit what you’re looking for. Mike 1 1
Kdizzle Posted October 26, 2021 Posted October 26, 2021 I would switch to a good braided line and learn to tie knots to a serviceable degree. The FG isn't too hard to learn if you spend a good saturday afternoon, tying it forty or fifty times.
Luke Barnes Posted October 27, 2021 Author Posted October 27, 2021 17 hours ago, Kdizzle said: I would switch to a good braided line and learn to tie knots to a serviceable degree. The FG isn't too hard to learn if you spend a good saturday afternoon, tying it forty or fifty times. As stated in previous posts, I run braid to fluoro on other setups. I am pretty proficient tying leaders on. I have rods and reels with braid but none with straight fluoro and its what I want. I'm going to buy more, just depends on which kind. Its down to Invizex and Sunline, either sniper or shooter. Probably come down to if any are on sale anywhere and if not, I'm confident from the info here that any of the three would be good and I would be happy with any of the three.
Super User J Francho Posted October 27, 2021 Super User Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 9:58 PM, MN Fisher said: For the budget angler - which I am one of - I recommend Seaguar InvizX. This. 1
PressuredFishing Posted October 27, 2021 Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 6:55 PM, Luke Barnes said: ....that isn't $30 a spool. I know Tatsu is amazing and the cats meow. But I don't fish enough to justify it. I am currently using Yo-Zuri Top Knot and the strength is good, but it's stiff and if I get even a small back lash and it kinks in the slightest, it breaks or I test it and it breaks. I use KVD L&L often and it still isn't much better. I use it on my bottom contact casting setup. For t rigs and swing heads and underspins and such. So what do you recommend I try that's not so stiff and doesn't have an obnoxious amount of memory? Seagar red label works great for the price! It's around $15. If that's too much, what I used to do when I was broke is tie a floro leader to my mono when fishing clear water. Increases sensitivity slightly and while bass are not usually line shy I think it makes a difference, being semi clear when fishing Gen clear water.
Ole man Fazul Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 On 10/25/2021 at 6:29 PM, MickD said: Good observation. And for some techniques this advantage is a disadvantage. IMHO, except for leaders, there is no reason to use FC. I'll be glad to ship you my half spools of FC, just pay the shipping. I have quite a few. I'll definitely take you up on this if nobody else does.
RFSims Posted November 1, 2021 Posted November 1, 2021 I have tried to ride the Fluorocarbon line train, but I don't feel it matches the hype. I actually like the Floro co-polly lines like P-Line Floroclear much better. Cost is not a factor.
Pitch'nCypress Posted November 2, 2021 Posted November 2, 2021 Invizx is my favorite even more so than tatsu. I use 20lb invizx on everything from spinnerbaits to flipping with great success. For the money my local walmart sells Berkley 100% fluorocarbon for $14 something a spool and its stronger than all of them. It's a great line and I've never broke it. Its bigger line but you can tow a truck with 25lb Berkley. 1
Luke Barnes Posted November 3, 2021 Author Posted November 3, 2021 Ive heard good things about the Trilene fluoro but mostly on you tube. Havent heard much about it here. Either way better line is on hold because the job situation is shaky right now and my wife got a pretty bad medical diagnoses at the Dr today and we are going to have to put all our money and resources into medication and Drs visits for the foreseeable future. My wife and her health are worth far more to me than anything fishing related. Guess those big worms and tungsten bullet weights will have to wait along with the new line. But worth it.
Super User MN Fisher Posted November 3, 2021 Super User Posted November 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, Luke Barnes said: Ive heard good things about the Trilene fluoro but mostly on you tube. Havent heard much about it here. 200yd spools of InvizX up to 12# test at Fleet Farm are the same price as 200yd spools of Trilene FC. Just sayin' https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/seaguar-invvizx-fishing-line/0000000258377
Global Moderator Mike L Posted November 3, 2021 Global Moderator Posted November 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Luke Barnes said: Ive heard good things about the Trilene fluoro but mostly on you tube. Havent heard much about it here. Either way better line is on hold because the job situation is shaky right now and my wife got a pretty bad medical diagnoses at the Dr today and we are going to have to put all our money and resources into medication and Drs visits for the foreseeable future. My wife and her health are worth far more to me than anything fishing related. Guess those big worms and tungsten bullet weights will have to wait along with the new line. But worth it. First, I sincerely hope your wife will have a complete and total recovery. Second, you don’t need those “big worms and tungsten weights” or new line to go fishin and be successful. All you need to do is go when you can. Best of everything to you and your family Mike 2 1
KP Duty Posted November 3, 2021 Posted November 3, 2021 Pline Tactical would probably be my first choice, but I like Trilene 100% a lot. I used Trilene 100% exclusively for several years when it first launched. I actually purchased 4 2000yd spools of the100% from Skeet Reese via ebay. No kidding. 1
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