Dedicated jig rod

[ajschn06]

On 11/1/2021 at 9:53 PM, Catt said:

 

If I snap a rod that's on me, I wouldn't even turn it in for warranty. 

 

Factory defect that's theirs 

So spend $500 on a G-Loomis and snap it.  Totally your fault.  Their warranty program says that's cool, give us $100(ish) and we'll send you a new one.  You aren't turning it in?

[ironbjorn]

42 minutes ago, ajschn06 said:

So spend $500 on a G-Loomis and snap it.  Totally your fault.  Their warranty program says that's cool, give us $100(ish) and we'll send you a new one.  You aren't turning it in?

Exactly. I personally definitely don't have that superior morality for a company that makes infinitely more money than I do. Thanks for having an awesome warranty and I will surely use it.

[Catt]

59 minutes ago, ajschn06 said:

So spend $500 on a G-Loomis and snap it.  Totally your fault.  Their warranty program says that's cool, give us $100(ish) and we'll send you a new one.  You aren't turning it in?

 

Nope!

 

I broke it, I don't expect Lommis to pay for my mistakes.

[TBAG]

On 10/22/2021 at 5:16 PM, PressuredFishing said:

G Loomis rods are nice if you can afford them, don't worry about warrantys as your first decision for purchasing, they always add fees fines, and usually are really stuck up when you ask to redeem the warranty.

 

Do not listen to this rubbish as it's far from the truth.

 

G Loomis is awesome when it comes to warranty.

 

[PressuredFishing]

4 hours ago, TBAG said:

 

Do not listen to this rubbish as it's far from the truth.

 

G Loomis is awesome when it comes to warranty.

 

95% of products your getting especially from G loomis are not going to have defects, so the point of the warranty is d**n near useless, and even if it didnt have the warranty you would still be able to send it back to TW or BPS and they have their own policy's to take back lemons. The warranty does not cover stupid mistakes like Catt said, which I would bet 99% of the reason is why rods break, (E.G stress fractures from bending the eyes the opposite way, high sticking, boat flipping, etc.). Rod issues usually show their defects on the first cast or fish, or even in the shipping, so having a "lifetime" warranty is useless because manufacturing defects don't take a lifetime to show up, but stupid mistakes sure do.

 

On 11/3/2021 at 1:14 PM, Catt said:

 

Nope!

 

I broke it, I don't expect Lommis to pay for my mistakes.

 

[ajschn06]

2 hours ago, PressuredFishing said:

95% of products your getting especially from G loomis are not going to have defects, so the point of the warranty is d**n near useless, and even if it didnt have the warranty you would still be able to send it back to TW or BPS and they have their own policy's to take back lemons. The warranty does not cover stupid mistakes like Catt said, which I would bet 99% of the reason is why rods break, (E.G stress fractures from bending the eyes the opposite way, high sticking, boat flipping, etc.). Rod issues usually show their defects on the first cast or fish, or even in the shipping, so having a "lifetime" warranty is useless because manufacturing defects don't take a lifetime to show up, but stupid mistakes sure do.

 

 

G-Loomis’ warranty does cover that though- provided you are willing to pay the replacement fee.  You aren’t even “pulling one over” on them so I don’t understand @Catt stance at all.  They literally tell you that it’s okay to do this if it’s your fault, and you have such superior morality that you’d rather pay the full cost to replace?

[Catt]

6 minutes ago, ajschn06 said:

you have such superior morality

 

No sir! I was raised to take responsibility for "my" actions. 

 

Warranty coverage is for factory defects or poor workmanship. I'll cover my screwups, y'all cover yours.

[ajschn06]

2 hours ago, Catt said:

 

No sir! I was raised to take responsibility for "my" actions. 

 

Warranty coverage is for factory defects or poor workmanship. I'll cover my screwups, y'all cover yours.

I think warranty coverage is whatever the company defines it as…

[Catt]

6 hours ago, ajschn06 said:

I think warranty coverage is whatever the company defines it as…

 

Ok let's look at it from your perspective 

 

I got a $500 rod that I break & send back to whomever plus $100+. Now my $500 rod has cost me $600 & if I do it again it's cost me $700. 

 

Whereas before all this taking advantage of warranties it was a straight across the counter exchange.

 

It's a warranty not an insurance policy 

[NHBull]

This is more of a personal choice....warranty aside, I really wanted to the MB rods including the Brailist but found I really prefer and reached for the GLX, MBR, and NRX first. 

 

The other thing to consider for us in the north east is down time..with a short season, being without your favorite rods for weeks shucks and the turnaround time on MB is just to freekin long

 

 

[RW]

I have a Diawa rebellion 7’3”” h rod that I have used for the last 6 months. I really like it. Light and very sensitive. The rod rating and specs are spot on I think. I’ve used it for 3/4 ounce football jigs and 1/2 ounce arky head. I have a tatutula elite with same rating and size which is okay. However, the rebellion is a step up on that.

[ajschn06]

3 hours ago, Catt said:

 

Ok let's look at it from your perspective 

 

I got a $500 rod that I break & send back to whomever plus $100+. Now my $500 rod has cost me $600 & if I do it again it's cost me $700. 

 

Whereas before all this taking advantage of warranties it was a straight across the counter exchange.

 

It's a warranty not an insurance policy 

 

Yes, but you've broken a $500 rod.  If you have a bunch of rods and decide, I don't really need to replace it, different story I can understand that.  But if you're going to replace it anyways, you've got 3 options:

 

1) Spend $500 on a new rod

2) Spend $100 on a new rod and get a $100 quality rod

3) Spend $100 on a new rod and get a $500 quality rod

 

Please tell me you're going with option 3? 

[Choporoz]

I can't say enough good things about Kistler Helium.  My favorite jig rods.

[newapti5]

This might be off of the topic. I wish it's a clear cut situation for rod warranty, but I feel like sometimes the line between user own fault and factory defect is blurry. Take my Falcon expert rod for example. Last year I snapped the tip of that rod during hookset. It was only 2 months old and I had only used it on 3 trips. It was just a ~1.5lb SM, but my hookset was pretty hard. Then again, my reel drag was set relatively low because I was fishing a shakey head. And again, when I set the hook, the rod tip was pointing all the way to the sky; that might put a lot of pressure on the rod tip....   

 

The merchant I purchased it from didn't bother with/understand my explanation, and just sent me a new rod with no charge. That's why I'd purchase another Falcon rod next time.

[Catt]

3 hours ago, ajschn06 said:

) Spend $100 on a new rod and get a $500 quality rod

 

Ya still end up spending $600

 

Actually for me it was an over the counter replacement, sold the Lommis & replaced it with a Shimano Crucial, put gas in the truck & boat.

[Mike L]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

 

Ya still end up spending $600

 

Actually for me it was an over the counter replacement, sold the Lommis & replaced it with a Shimano Crucial, put gas in the truck & boat.

One of the most underrated rods ever made. 
 

 

Mike

[Craig P]

Warranty and Insurance are the same thing. If a manufacturer gives an easy replacement fee warranty, my Costa glasses come to mind, there is money built in the original cost for Insurance, ie, warranty.  I applaud people for taking the stance of if I broke it, it’s my fault, I’ll pay for it but if the “deal” contains warranty with easy replacement fees, it would be foolish to not use the warranty because you already paid for it.

[PressuredFishing]

2 hours ago, Craig P said:

Warranty and Insurance are the same thing. If a manufacturer gives an easy replacement fee warranty, my Costa glasses come to mind, there is money built in the original cost for Insurance, ie, warranty.  I applaud people for taking the stance of if I broke it, it’s my fault, I’ll pay for it but if the “deal” contains warranty with easy replacement fees, it would be foolish to not use the warranty because you already paid for it.

Fair enough, I would personally just pay a lot less for glasses of the same quality with a standard defect warranty and not be clumsy and be careful with what I own. Costa sunglasses for instance run 100-200+$ ish, I can buy  Eye Surrender sunglasses which are about the same quality of lens and frame for 60$. so it depends how many times you think you are going to break your glasses. If I think I have enough money to replace a 60$ pair of sunglasses, Ill do it, but If I own a car, I will probably buy insurance because I cannot afford another one.

[OldManLure]

On 11/3/2021 at 4:14 PM, Catt said:

 

Nope!

 

I broke it, I don't expect Lommis to pay for my mistakes.

Loomis expects to pay for your mistake.   It’s a selling point.  That is why they so meticulously included it in their replacement policy.  

[Catt]

1 hour ago, OldManLure said:

It’s a selling point

 

And it's an additional cost to rod.

 

8 hours ago, Mike L said:

One of the most underrated rods ever made. 
 

 

Mike

 

Best rods I've ever owned 

[F14A-B]

I’ve just purchased two new G Loomis / Shimano rods. IMX 903C and a E6X 964C BBR with graphite handle. These are for the Gulf of Mexico fishing trips. 
 

I own many Loomis rods under Shimano ownership and I’ve never broke a single one. I believe in the company & the product. Rod failures happen I guess, but I’ve had stellar service from my gear...

which includes a sizable investment in Shimano reels too..

 

You must consider, the entire world is behind due to Covid and shut downs..

On 11/3/2021 at 3:11 PM, ajschn06 said:

So spend $500 on a G-Loomis and snap it.  Totally your fault.  Their warranty program says that's cool, give us $100(ish) and we'll send you a new one.  You aren't turning it in?

Some of us take responsibility for our personal failures, others decide differently.

 

Myself? I would not. 

[ajschn06]

On 11/6/2021 at 7:14 AM, Alonerankin2 said:

I’ve just purchased two new G Loomis / Shimano rods. IMX 903C and a E6X 964C BBR with graphite handle. These are for the Gulf of Mexico fishing trips. 
 

I own many Loomis rods under Shimano ownership and I’ve never broke a single one. I believe in the company & the product. Rod failures happen I guess, but I’ve had stellar service from my gear...

which includes a sizable investment in Shimano reels too..

 

You must consider, the entire world is behind due to Covid and shut downs..

Some of us take responsibility for our personal failures, others decide differently.

 

Myself? I would not. 

 

 

Taking responsibility?  Like paying the $100 they ask for.... this is some wild high horse type stuff on this topic wowza