What Really Happened to Coach Eaux?

[Sam]

Article about Coach Eaux's departure from LSU for your reading enjoyment from a reporter covering LSU sports.

 

We all know big time college football can be dirty, but the Coach Eaux situation takes the cake!

 

Over his last 17 games, LSU football coach Ed Orgeron is 9-8, and he will get $17 million to walk away quietly at the end of the season. He was fired last week before the win over Florida because he fell to 8-8 over his last two seasons after going 15-0 to win the national championship in 2019.

 

Key phrase: “Walk away quietly.”

 

Prominent businessmen with strong interests and financial ties with LSU have been saying for weeks LSU would be able to finesse that $17 million buyout in Orgeron’s contract to something closer to $10 million because of Orgeron’s off-field issues. Had Orgeron been fired with cause, LSU would not owe him the buyout. It is difficult to fire someone for cause, but LSU attorneys could have threatened that for legitimate reasons and made it part of negotiations to get the buyout down.

 

Orgeron has not exactly been a model coach off the field and may have violated some of the moral language in his contract, so it would’ve been worth a try. Remember, Orgeron clearly looked the other way and was slow to discipline former LSU players Drake Davis and Derrius Guice, whose sexual assault cases and other deviant behavior were investigated by USA TODAY over the last year. That led to ongoing investigations by the U.S. Department of Education and a state Senate select committee.

 

LSU also hired an independent firm to conduct its own investigation of LSU’s own handling of the accusations against Davis and Guice that led to the suspension of two athletic department employees, who covered up information, and some other changes in LSU’s approach to accusations by female students. Orgeron has also been the subject of several rumors since divorcing his wife Kelly of 23 years after the 2019 national title, and there have been questionable pictures of him with women on social media.

 

Some other LSU people could tell you some other stories as well. The LSU football program also remains under NCAA investigation for various recruiting practices and other items, mostly related to former coach Les Miles’ tenure, but Orgeron was Miles’ recruiting coordinator and has been close to recruiting since 2015 when he was hired as an assistant. But most important is the fact that Orgeron is potentially involved in the $50 million sexual harassment lawsuit filed against LSU in federal court last April by LSU associate athletic director for football recruiting Sharon Lewis.

 

The suit concerns Miles’ behavior toward Lewis after she tried to report Miles’ advances toward young female football office employees. A previous report by the investigative firm LSU hired revealed in March that Miles “tried to sexualize the staff of student workers (overseen by Lewis) in the football office by allegedly demanding that he wanted blondes with big breasts, and more pretty girls.”

 

Orgeron was Miles’ defensive line coach in 2015 and recruiting coordinator in 2016 before replacing him as interim head coach when Miles was fired in 2016 after a slide over several years. Lewis’ lawsuit does not name Orgeron among the defendants, but it lists 10 unnamed men among the defendants. And the lawsuit says that current members of LSU’s football staff and athletic administration conspired to retaliate against Lewis when she attempted to report Miles’ behavior with the female workers under him in violation of federal Title IX laws that ban gender discrimination and harassment.

 

And who knows what else LSU knows about Orgeron off the field? Yet, LSU is allowing this ridiculous buyout to a coach who obviously does not deserve it, considering how his team has played over most of 2020 and ’21?

 

The man called his own team’s performance at Kentucky “embarrassing,” but he can still take it to the bank?

 

LSU’s problem, though, is that if it fired Orgeron with cause and therefore negated the buyout, then those reasons for cause could be brought up in the $50 million lawsuit against LSU and render LSU culpable. So, LSU may be cutting its losses by doling out $17 million to Orgeron.

 

LSU and Woodward may be paying Orgeron that much without much discussion because they may be a little afraid of Orgeron and what he knows and might say. “You better come hang out by the bayou with me,” Woodward told Orgeron Sunday night during a press conference about the firing with the two sitting right next to one another in a team meeting room.

 

Orgeron had been asked about his future plans without a job come January. I doubt that bayou invite would work as well if Orgeron, who likes to joke about inviting someone he doesn’t like to a particular fishing spot on the bayou, wasn’t getting his money. “I can’t tell you what Coco said, but she wanted to make sure I got my money,” Orgeron said at the same press conference when asked whether he discussed his job change with his family.

 

Coco is his mother, Cornelia Orgeron, who lives in the LaRose area down on the bayou where Orgeron grew up. (Same area where my mother's family lived, Sam's input)

 

Considering how honest and candid Orgeron is and that he can be a loose cannon, Woodward would likely prefer he not make the school more vulnerable by what he might say to NCAA investigators, Lewis’ attorneys, or the attorneys for the alleged victims of Davis and Guice during, say, depositions. Particularly if the NCAA interview or deposition happened after, say, Orgeron was fired and he did not get all or most of the $17 million.

 

One particularly influential financial figure close to LSU said this week that the reason Orgeron is getting all his money is because LSU wants to make d**n sure Orgeron is very happy with his firing and not a bitter former employee. Orgeron seemed very happy Sunday to be getting $17 million over the next four years without working. In the end, LSU may have a thing or two to get that buyout down, but Orgeron may have a thing or two more on LSU.

 

This is the stuff deals are made of in Louisiana. In the end, LSU is out $17 million for a buyout that didn’t need to be in Orgeron’s updated contract after he won the national title. He didn’t need that incentive to stay at LSU – his dream job, And no one was trying to hire him, even after he went 15-0.

 

Everyone knew he was at his destination job. And he is not an NFL coach.

 

Orgeron’s raise from $4 million a year to an average of $7 million a year through 2025 was enough of a reward for the national title. His buyout could have been a few million. But Woodward let it start at $27 million with it now down to $17 million. That is even worse than former LSU athletic director Joe Alleva, who was able to fire Miles for $9 million and ended up paying only $4 million when Miles took the Kansas job.

 

Orgeron has said he doesn’t plan on coaching again. But he may become a spokesman for McDonald’s. “I think I’m going to have enough money to buy me a hamburger every once in a while,” Orgeron said. “Maybe a double-meat cheeseburger.”

 

Thanks, Scott Woodward. Great move. You have created the new Hamburglar.

[huZZah]

19 minutes ago, Sam said:

Considering how honest and candid Orgeron is

Uhhhh…contradiction there. He wouldn’t be in so much trouble if he were even sort of honest. 

 

20 minutes ago, Sam said:

LSU.

 

This is the stuff deals are made of in Louisiana.

Look at Fisher at A&M. Can’t get any more egg on the face. 
 

Colleges make their decisions and then have buyers remorse. Then it’s everyone else’s fault but theirs. The irony is just too much. 
 

And everyone giving them a pass on their wasteful spending over something so unrelated to their mission (I believe they’re supposed to be educating or something) and their lying and mishandling of serious offenses is just pathetic. 

[Sam]

Huz, you are correct. The problem is the money. LSU will probably clear $30,000,000 from the SEC plus approximately $8,000,000 a home game based on food, beer, novelty, and ticket sales.

 

And think how this money impacts the less successful schools throughout the nation. This is why we are seeing conference realignments. "What can your team bring to the table in terms of eyeballs on your games to generate more income?" 

 

Ask Rutgers and Maryland that went to the Big 10. Rutgers in the Big 10? That's a joke. Maryland in the Big 10? Honestly, Maryland is a basketball school but the big guys in the Big 10 will feast on the Turtles to pad their win column and pocket book.

 

Now with that said, how much money will Rutgers and Maryland receive as part of the Big 10 Network and TV/Radio revenues? A lot. A really lot of money. So their respective football teams get clobbered by the Big 10 echelon. Do you really think these two schools administrators care about that? It's "Show me the Money." Bye Bye ACC.

 

The more successful the football team is the more kids want to attend that school and alumni will donate millions to the athletic funds and individual colleges. Virginia Tech had a tremendous jump in applications after they played Florida State in the Sugar Bowl for the national championship all those years ago. And then Virginia Tech, with the blessing of Virginia, joined the ACC.

 

As my old economics prof at LSU told us: Follow the Money!

[813basstard]

The stories of Coach O down in Miami when he was coaching Warren Sapp can be mistaken for fiction. He was completely out of his mind. Heck of a D line coach and recruiter however. 

Big time SEC football is not and has never been about education. Hate to say it, but it’s true. Football on purpose, education on accident.

 

Now the sexual assault deal, yea he fumbled that one. Should’ve dismissed them ASAP. 
Off field stuff from a single man WAS not the final straw.

Final straw was not winning enough. That’s, unfortunately the bottom line on that level.

[Tennessee Boy]

In his first year as an assistant at Tennessee I came across a recording online of a speech that he gave to the Knoxville Chamber of Commerce that I listened to for some reason.  That's when I decided I did not like him.  This story lines up well with the impression I got of him from that speech.  One thing he said was "We're not saints and we don't expect our players to be saints."  I don't think you can expect players to be saints but as a coach you should be encouraging them to be good men and good members of society.  You do this by setting an example and by setting expectations for behavior.  That's what I like to tell myself is happening in college sports.  It's probably not very realistic.  Every year it gets harder for me to be a college football fan but I haven't given up yet.

[TnRiver46]

Ive always warned, even on here a few times, that he was scum. But he got a title, so oh well I guess. Truthfully joe burrow and joe Brady got the title and Ed O just got out of the way 

 

urban Meyer was a standup guy at all his stops too……..

 

 

[DaubsNU1]

All football is pretty rough...from the pee-wee leagues all the way up to the NFL. It is a sport centered on violence and referred to with war-like terms...yet we expect the players and coaches to be gentlemen and upstanding citizens off the gridiron.

 

I coached at a public middle school...and even in this age bracket, some of the most gifted players were the most troubled. It was a constant struggle to coach and mentors some.

 

My brother coached high school...a team that won state championships...sent players to division 1 programs...some played in the NFL. He has lots of stories...some good, some bad.

 

Nothing written above about Coach O surprises me...nor does what is written about LSU and pending lawsuits, and what Universities do to protect themselves.

 

LSU needs to be careful going forward.  I am a Nebraska Alum and lifelong fan...hire the wrong coach, or even AD, you are in for a long, long world of hurt.

[813basstard]

35 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

 

urban Meyer was a standup guy at all his stops too……..

 

 

………?

 

[Sam]

3 hours ago, Tennessee Boy said:

In his first year as an assistant at Tennessee I came across a recording online of a speech that he gave to the Knoxville Chamber of Commerce that I listened to for some reason.  That's when I decided I did not like him.  This story lines up well with the impression I got of him from that speech.  One thing he said was "We're not saints and we don't expect our players to be saints."  I don't think you can expect players to be saints but as a coach you should be encouraging them to be good men and good members of society.  You do this by setting an example and by setting expectations for behavior.  That's what I like to tell myself is happening in college sports.  It's probably not very realistic.  Every year it gets harder for me to be a college football fan but I haven't given up yet.

Rumors have it that the administration wanted to get rid of him a year ago but decided to wait for Woodward, his old friend, to do it.

 

Seems he allowed the children of his latest girl friend to bring her kids to the practices and do what the players did.  I understand that this did not sit well with a few "high ups" at LSU.

[TnRiver46]

20 hours ago, Sam said:

Rumors have it that the administration wanted to get rid of him a year ago but decided to wait for Woodward, his old friend, to do it.

 

Seems he allowed the children of his latest girl friend to bring her kids to the practices and do what the players did.  I understand that this did not sit well with a few "high ups" at LSU.

I’d say the 9-8 in the last 17 games was a bigger factor…..

 

you can get away with much worse than that with a winning record, just look at will wade 

[Chris at Tech]

Win and no one cares.  Struggle and all of a sudden everyone becomes the morality police.

[BrianMDTX]

On 10/21/2021 at 8:08 AM, Sam said:

Ask Rutgers and Maryland that went to the Big 10. Rutgers in the Big 10? That's a joke. Maryland in the Big 10? Honestly, Maryland is a basketball school but the big guys in the Big 10 will feast on the Turtles to pad their win column and pocket book.

I could not agree with you more concerning the Terps. Which is sad, as years ago they had some good football teams. But Maryland is and will be a basketball school first and foremost. They can compete with anyone on the boards. The gridiron? Against the vast majority of the Big 10 they are cannon fodder.