CrashVector Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 Got a pack of these stick baits from bps a few days ago in dirt color. Seems they have a TON of salt in them. I stretched them, and there's so much salt that the lure stayed lengthened. I know why lure companies add salt, but do they need to add THAT much?! Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 20, 2021 Super User Posted October 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, CrashVector said: I know why lure companies add salt, but do they need to add THAT much?! Why do you think they add salt? The salt is what gives the Zero it's sink rate. 1 Quote
CrashVector Posted October 20, 2021 Author Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, J Francho said: Why do you think they add salt? The salt is what gives the Zero it's sink rate. It's sink rate and to make a biting fish hang on I would assume. The zero just seems to have WAY more salt than say a Z-Man zinker. Quote
Skunkmaster-k Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 How do they look in the water? I’ve never tried one. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 20, 2021 Super User Posted October 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, CrashVector said: It's sink rate and to make a biting fish hang on I would assume. The zero just seems to have WAY more salt than say a Z-Man zinker. I don't know about a fish hanging on - I know of no science that supports this - but it defintiely is what determines the sink rate, and yes, way more than a Zinker. Sounds like you never used any GYCB plastics. 1 minute ago, Skunkmaster-k said: How do they look in the water? I’ve never tried one. Like a Senko, only a slower fall. Quote
CrashVector Posted October 20, 2021 Author Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, J Francho said: I don't know about a fish hanging on - I know of no science that supports this - but it defintiely is what determines the sink rate, and yes, way more than a Zinker. Sounds like you never used any GYCB plastics. I've used plenty of the Yamamoto stuff. Perhaps it's just bc the zero is stretchy that it looks like a bag of salt... Quote
PressuredFishing Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, CrashVector said: Got a pack of these stick baits from bps a few days ago in dirt color. Seems they have a TON of salt in them. I stretched them, and there's so much salt that the lure stayed lengthened. I know why lure companies add salt, but do they need to add THAT much?! It adjusts the fall rate Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted October 20, 2021 Super User Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, CrashVector said: I've used plenty of the Yamamoto stuff. Perhaps it's just bc the zero is stretchy that it looks like a bag of salt... You should grab a bag of zman TRDs and stretch them out. Alot more salt in them then a guy would think. 1 Quote
Skunkmaster-k Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 What is the advantage over a shim-e-stick ? Or is there one? Quote
Brett's_daddy Posted October 20, 2021 Posted October 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, Skunkmaster-k said: What is the advantage over a shim-e-stick ? Or is there one? The Zero's are made of Elaztech similar to Z-man so they will last about 50 fish before needing to be replaced. The Shim-e-stick is a regular stick bait and won't last nearly as long. 1 Quote
Super User Munkin Posted October 20, 2021 Super User Posted October 20, 2021 4 hours ago, J Francho said: I don't know about a fish hanging on - I know of no science that supports this - but it defintiely is what determines the sink rate, and yes, way more than a Zinker. Sounds like you never used any GYCB plastics. Like a Senko, only a slower fall. I was once told that blood is salty so when they bite a bait that is what they are thinking. No idea if it is true or not but that's what I heard. When I pour my own plastics the only time I use salt is for flukes. Allen 1 Quote
Super User Team9nine Posted October 20, 2021 Super User Posted October 20, 2021 My understanding is that the ZinkerZ and Zeros are both about 45% salt content. That is what is required to get a decent sink rate from the Elaztech material. It actually takes about 40% to get it to start sinking. For comparison sake, a Senko is about 35% salt by weight, but it is in a traditional PVC matrix that is already heavier than water to begin with, so it requires less, but combined with the salt, sinks faster. 2 Quote
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