Thinnest fishing line

[Jacky-Boy]

Hey everyone, I fish large bodies of water where there is approx. 1.5 m/hr current. It's always a challenge to make contact with the bottom without having a big arc in your line. So I always try to go with the thinnest fishing line. I came across this line which is less than half the diameter of other popular fishing lines ( 0.084mm for 11 lbs VS 0.200 10 lbs. other brands ).  It's called SLKX8 from Trabucco. Have any of you used it or know of similar fishing lines ?

 

 

 

[MickD]

I expect most 8 (or more) strand lines are of a similar diameter.  Check out Hitena's premium braids.  Based on my memory the Pureline diameter is listed as being the same as this line.

 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

There using suffix as a comparison because its one of the thicker 8 carriers.  Lb test ratings can be different depending which domestic market the product is in.  For example a JDM lines are rated at MAXIMUM breaking strength where USDM are rated by MINUMUM which makes a huge difference.  A JDM 10lb braid test will most likely break at 8 or 9lbs where the USDM 10lb braid will break closer to 15lbs.  So really if you go by the USDM test rating the JDM 10lb would be closer to 6lb test that's why the diameters are so much thinner for JDM lines.  When you compare the actually braking strengths on an equal scale the dia are very close.

You have to take into account that the rating tests were almost certainly done with brand new line in a lab setting.  Any kind of abrasion especially on a line that thin will greatly reduce the overall strength.

The thinnest line I have had experience with would be Gliss which is a whats they call a unifilament.  Its extremely thin and smooth, so much so that I had to tie palomar knots to be confident the line wouldn't slip.  The casting distance is impressive although like I had mentioned earlier it comes at a price.  Even the tiniest nick or rub can cause a failure, so its important to be very observant if you are using a line that thin.

I would imagine an 8 carrier braid would be a little more resistant to abrasion, but I may be wrong.  If your fishing open water and the line isnt at the price point of a premium braid like Gosen I would try it out if I were you.  If you don't like it there are many other options on the market now that offer a similar dia.          

[Jacky-Boy]

So Gosen seems to be the way to go if  price is not an object.  I usually last my braided line a couple of  years. What's your experience with the Gosen ?

[Tim Kelly]

I would expect most braids of a given PE diameter to break at a similar test, despite what it says on the packet. 

[WRB]

Fins Sling Braid is small dia 8 carrier braid made in Georgia USA.

Tom

[ATA]

I am using Varivas Saltwater, It is best lb test for diameter and very strong line, I use that for my main BFS set up and never disappointed me. The knot and the line very strong and color white of the line making it invisible practically.

the spool is expensive (I think $110) but it is worth it and I have mine about two years on my spool.

[roadwarrior]

#10 Smackdown   .008 " diameter

 

https://seaguar.com/freshwater/new-lines/smackdown-stealth-gray

[bulldog1935]

I have one baitcaster with PE#0.8 Duel X-wire, rated 16-lb - that's on a shallow, 2-mm-deep spool. 

It gets a lot smaller, and my smallest line on spinning tackle is half that, PE#0.4, on the shallowest spinning spool that Shimano offers, N2010.

0.008" = 0.20 mm, and 30-lb test in X-braid. 

As mentioned, Varivas, YGK, Duel, Gosen, and Yamatoyo. 

https://www.jpfishingtacklenews.com/japanese-line-size/

@jimmyjoe

YGK G-Soul X-braid is weighted, and made to sink. 

It's offered down to PE#0.6

[WRB]

RFins Sling Braid is very close in dia., 10 # is .127mm/.005D, 32 lbs break strength w/o knot.

Seaguar Smack Down isn’t in the same ball park; 10# is .202mm/.008D or approx 50% larger diameter.

Tom

[newapti5]

Momoi Ryujin braided line is the thinnest line I've used - 6kg line is 0.06mm, 8kg is 0.08mm. Smooth as silk; I had to constantly hold back a little so I wouldn't cast into trees. The strength is quite good at the beginning, but the abrasion resistance of this line is terrible. It's kind of expected given its thin diameter.  

[MickD]

I'm not going try to sift through all the data, unsubstantiated opinions, conjecture, and myths, I'll just keep using my Hitena Pureline and have no problems.  It's really not that difficult.

 

I think we often forget that it's more fun to go fishing than to sort through conflicting advertising claims.  Then we have experience to guide us, our own experience.  

[Jacky-Boy]

19 hours ago, MickD said:

I'm not going try to sift through all the data, unsubstantiated opinions, conjecture, and myths, I'll just keep using my Hitena Pureline and have no problems.  It's really not that difficult.

 

I think we often forget that it's more fun to go fishing than to sort through conflicting advertising claims.  Then we have experience to guide us, our own experience.  

I see that the Hitena Pureline 10 lbs is only 0.073 mm in  diameter ! That's the thinnest I've seen. And u say u have had a great experience with it. Thanks

[Choporoz]

As @GetFishorDieTryin mentioned, Gliss is very fine.  I use 18# (.006) with 6 and 8 lb leader to compensate for poor abrasion resistance. 

[Oklahoma Mike]

54 minutes ago, Choporoz said:

As @GetFishorDieTryin mentioned, Gliss is very fine.  I use 18# (.006) with 6 and 8 lb leader to compensate for poor abrasion resistance. 

 

I tried a couple different sizes of Gliss on some spinning setups for two seasons and ultimately decided the cons outweighed the pros. While casting distance was significantly better, the wind knots were a nightmare, and of course abrasion resistance was basically zero. I tried solving the latter by adding a leader like you mentioned, but I lost a lot of leaders at the joining knot, and I've never lost one with standard braid. 

[bulldog1935]

Tuning gear is fun, not difficult. 

It couldn't be further from buying into hype or advertising - it's about setting goals - and substantiating your own opinions. First, by seeing what's out there, especially if it comes from another country, where they have more options and more experience than the stock that makes it here.

 

When it pays off is when you get to where you're going and it works as well or even better than you planned. 

[GetFishorDieTryin]

5 hours ago, Oklahoma Mike said:

 

I tried a couple different sizes of Gliss on some spinning setups for two seasons and ultimately decided the cons outweighed the pros. While casting distance was significantly better, the wind knots were a nightmare, and of course abrasion resistance was basically zero. I tried solving the latter by adding a leader like you mentioned, but I lost a lot of leaders at the joining knot, and I've never lost one with standard braid. 

I know what you mean.  Its kind of a niche line.  It does really well in open surf where the risk of abrasion is low. 

[MickD]

19 hours ago, Jacky-Boy said:

And u say u have had a great experience with it. Thanks

Yes, great experience for many years.  I put 21 pound test onto a Shimano Stradic 4000 to have a back-up rod in the boat suitable for barracuda and bonefish, wanted a lot of line capacity and good casting of light jigs.  It worked beautifully, casts like other lines that are much lighter in pound test, and has lasted for years.  Now I have it on a couple other outfits for fresh water bass finesse fishing.

[newapti5]

On 10/18/2021 at 4:01 PM, Oklahoma Mike said:

 

I tried a couple different sizes of Gliss on some spinning setups for two seasons and ultimately decided the cons outweighed the pros. While casting distance was significantly better, the wind knots were a nightmare, and of course abrasion resistance was basically zero. I tried solving the latter by adding a leader like you mentioned, but I lost a lot of leaders at the joining knot, and I've never lost one with standard braid. 

 

Yeah, I also have had 18# Gliss on a spinning reel for a season now. So far it's still holding up, but I MUST tie a fluoro leader on all the time. FG knot seems working pretty well, of course I have to wrap some extra rounds because how slippery that line is.  The only problem is, it's such a pain in the butt to tie a FG knot with that limb loose Gliss line that sometimes I would rather just pick up a different setup. 

[The Bassman]

I've changed to P-Line TCB 8 recently. Its stated dia. isn't less than comparable braids but its coating makes it very slick and castable with just enough body to minimize wind knots. I find that this surface treatment lasts a really long time. It's only available down to 10 lb. but I find it as castable as my 6 lb. Fins Windtamer when finesse fishing. Also, it's as quiet as any braid I've ever used.