about Nanofil

[Chet C]

 I did mention in a post taking a break from Bass fishing and doing some crappie fishing, i was trying Suffix 832 in 10lb test trying to get some distance from shore fishing, i get the most distance with 4lb mono like stren SOS. the suffix braid 832 is nice for sensitivity and no stretch but falls short on the distance, was reading about the Berkley Nanofil. some say it will out cast the suffix and the mono 4lb lines, anything i should be aware of anything before i order, is it the way to go for what i am after less stretch and good hook sets and sensitivity.

 

chet

[JustJames]

It is super slick line so add more wraps when you tie the knot. If you gonna fish bottom better to have leader since this line have non abrasion resistance. It’s frayed easily so better check quite often. At first the line with coil up bad but will get better after used. The line sink slower than mono and braid so take that into account when you do count down fishing. Last but not least the line is not very friendly in wind. I use uni/double uni knot with 8 wraps and hold up fine.

[The Bassman]

I haven't used it but but Sufix Nano Braid would probably serve you well. I tried Nanofil years ago and would never go back to it. It turns fuzzy and like @Bass_Fishing_Socal said doesn't play well with wind.

[moguy1973]

I didn't like it when I used it.  Maybe I had a bad batch or something but I had several break offs on the hook set, and it wasn't breaking at the knot, it was breaking up the line.  As said above, it's very thin and the wind catches it pretty easily.

 

Other people I know have used it and like it and have caught big fish on it, so take my experience with a grain of salt.

[Fishingmickey]

I tried is a couple of years ago and it frays/fuzzed up after a short period of use. I ditched it after that.

FM

[FryDog62]

Biggest issue I had was tensile strength. I had break offs too but noticed it was mostly above the knot. Any snapping of the line broke, especially snags. If you do any “slack line hook sets” guaranteed breakage IMO.  I think knot slippage gets blamed more often with Nanofil but may not always be the real underlying factor. 

[Bass Rutten]

Worst. Braid. Ever. Power pro or 832 all the way (line conditioner helps), or ygk g-soul sinking if you feel like splurging. 

[JustJames]

I never have any problem breakage on hook set 4 and 6lb. It is mostly for my crappie and bluegill rig which mostly a quick light jerk or reel to set hook applied anyway. I agree with tension strength though, I can tug the line when testing knot and broke the line a couple time. I also have 3 on my bass rig which still hold up fine. I like the line for no weight feel. It is essential when I fish Neko rig and the rod tip up almost 90 degree. Even the line have more buoyancy than braid but cut thru water better yield to better sensitivity.

[Team9nine]

I tried Nanofil for a year and a half as my primary crappie line. I really wanted to like it, and it has some great characteristics - long casts, quiet, very sensitive, hi-vis coloring (came later); but I, too, couldn’t get past the line weakness/breaking issue, both direct and with leader knots. In the end, it was a deal killer for me. Had friends use it in higher pound tests that didn’t have the line break issues, so who knows. Might be worth a spool to try just to see. I presently use PP micro line (3, 4, 5 lb test) for all my crappie fishing and it is solid. Used it for years now and have made believers and converts out of many friends.

[Chet C]

29 minutes ago, Team9nine said:

I tried Nanofil for a year and a half as my primary crappie line. I really wanted to like it, and it has some great characteristics - long casts, quiet, very sensitive, hi-vis coloring (came later); but I, too, couldn’t get past the line weakness/breaking issue, both direct and with leader knots. In the end, it was a deal killer for me. Had friends use it in higher pound tests that didn’t have the line break issues, so who knows. Might be worth a spool to try just to see. I presently use PP micro line (3, 4, 5 lb test) for all my crappie fishing and it is solid. Used it for years now and have made believers and converts out of many friends.

ho team9nine

are you referring to power pro micro braid, trying to make sure i am looking for the right line

 

chet

[Team9nine]

5 minutes ago, Chet C said:

ho team9nine

are you referring to power pro micro braid, trying to make sure i am looking for the right line

 

chet

 

Back around 2010, PP marketed their 3-5 lb test line as “microline.” It was it’s own separate sub-category in the lineup and had that listing on the box.  I believe they have stopped using that sub-category, but still sell the line as regular PP (Spectra microfilament) in those sizes, which is what I buy and use now. Might have to do some looking though as not a lot of places sell those lightest sizes. They are listed as available though on the PP website.

[PressuredFishing]

4 hours ago, Chet C said:

 I did mention in a post taking a break from Bass fishing and doing some crappie fishing, i was trying Suffix 832 in 10lb test trying to get some distance from shore fishing, i get the most distance with 4lb mono like stren SOS. the suffix braid 832 is nice for sensitivity and no stretch but falls short on the distance, was reading about the Berkley Nanofil. some say it will out cast the suffix and the mono 4lb lines, anything i should be aware of anything before i order, is it the way to go for what i am after less stretch and good hook sets and sensitivity.

 

chet

Braid and floro  for crappie is less than ideal because they have paper thin mouths and you can easily rip the hooks out of their mouthes, like REALLY EASILY. Training yourself to feel crappie bites is the best way in the long run. Their bites in the winter feel like mush is on your hook and it's gets a little heavier. They can also hit hard, but that's easy to detect. They feel like mush in winter because they just suck the jig in without moving.

[JustJames]

This is really fault, you can rip paper thin mouth with mono easily too. You think those mono that stretch can prevent that? LOL

It all about rod, drag and experience.

 

[PressuredFishing]

The conversation was about line not rods or reels, mono is better for crappie, experience is assumed to be had...

[JustJames]

You don’t use just line to fish do you? You think those 10-12” crappie can stretch out mono? I’m not crappie expert only fish for them the past two years but one thing I know for sure doesn’t matter what line you use if you set hook too hard, you would rip those paper thin mouth.

[PressuredFishing]

Of corse, but I didn't think this was about hook setting techniques, instead I thought it was a fourm thread about lines for crappie, 2-6lb mono is less likely to rip out of a crappies mouth compared to floro or braid, even taking into consideration proper hooksetting technique. Mono helps not tear a crappies mouth because bringing a crappie with zero stretch tears a larger hole in a fishes mouth, and with light wire hooks they come right out. Braid and floro does work on fiberglass rods but I'm assuming nobody here fishes with fiberglass for crappie often. Give is a must in crappie fishing, it's up to you wether Thad be in the rod or line. Same as jerkbait fishing for bass, you can use a mono with medium fast action or a medium moderate action with floro.

[JustJames]

You are too much technical young man. Doesn’t matter 2lb mono 10lb braid. Anything can tear crappie mouth. Mono stretch yes but it has to has enough tension. In your theory if I tie 4lb line to a 2lb weight. It would stretch out just like those rubber band? Again mono can tear a larger hole in crappie mouth if you just keep pulling the line. In about how you play the fish use the rod bend to help absorb tension. So let me ask you which one would be easier to give, mono line or rod.

Fiberglass rod and jerkbait with MF or MM rod? You read too much young man.

I caught plenty of bass with Jerkbait on Fast rod using braid, FC and Copolymer.

All my crappies rod are graphite some fast some moderate fast all with either Nanofil or 6-8lb braid.

 

 

[PressuredFishing]

I'm just stating the obvious tried and true method of panfishing and fishing for species with delicate mouths, again this thread has nothing to do with rods or reels, only line, not quite sure why you brought that up... if you want to stand out from the crowd and be cool and catch crappie on a baitcaster with braid go for it, doesn't mean your hook to land ratio is better, far from it. I was just giving information to those who are willing to listen.

[JustJames]

Lol and I thought you call yourself a BFS fisherman, you might appreciate the setup. Anyway let look at other that showed no big hole as you stated. Rod is graphite super fast solid tip not fiberglass (bluegill rod), and 4lb Nanofil. 
My landing ration was about 90% from hundreds of crappie I caught last year. 5% from me tried to flip those 10-12” with my rod. I think it wasn’t sound so bad. This is not tried and true just pure experience.

 

[JustJames]

If you are looking into micro braid. I have tried 4 and 6lb Finns windtamer braid. It is not a bad line, still quite and don’t have that nasty texture of PP. I only use it for awhile before sold the reel. For me distance is still not as good as Nanofil. 
I also have freshly new 3lb Nanobraid waiting to try out but couldn’t find any reel to fit into it. From crappie community, this line should have almost the same characteristics as Nanofil but a lot stronger especially tensile strength. Might worst a look to.

To me when fishing for crappie from shore, distance is everything. I’m willingly to look past some flaws to get distance I want. It is a separation of catching 6-10” crappie to a big 12-14” slab.

[PressuredFishing]

 I use bfs for very niche situations, small topwaters or buzzbaits for the fast gear ratio or flipping and pitching for trout in streams. I don't use bfs for panfish or trout in lakes because spinning gear casts farther, and If I'm fishing cover I use a 10ft rod to drop a rig into tulies. if you like braid because of the sensitivity and lack of line twist on spinning, that's fine and dandy, just remember if you are using braid on bfs I warn you, it's not smart. Warped a bfs spool (scorpion) from using braid on a 4lb bass. I got the fish but the spool was messed up and the braid deformed the spool. The new usdm curado doesn't have that issue. Personally I feel like I get better hookup ratio with mono, so do many others, you may get a better catch ratio from feeling subtler bites and not dealing with line twist. Also important to note crappie can be line shy  by using heavier line or colored line (braid or the colored monos, and have noticed a huge increase in bites using braid to leader.

[JustJames]

Just go enjoy fishing kid, I can proof you are wrong in many directions right now. 

[PressuredFishing]

7 minutes ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

Just go enjoy fishing kid, I can proof you are wrong in many directions right now. 

How many years do you have up your sleeve? Just curious because you keep calling me a kid.

[Chet C]

12 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

If you are looking into micro braid. I have tried 4 and 6lb Finns windtamer braid. It is not a bad line, still quite and don’t have that nasty texture of PP. I only use it for awhile before sold the reel. For me distance is still not as good as Nanofil. 
I also have freshly new 3lb Nanobraid waiting to try out but couldn’t find any reel to fit into it. From crappie community, this line should have almost the same characteristics as Nanofil but a lot stronger especially tensile strength. Might worst a look to.

To me when fishing for crappie from shore, distance is everything. I’m willingly to look past some flaws to get distance I want. It is a separation of catching 6-10” crappie to a big 12-14” slab.

To me when fishing for crappie from shore, distance is everything, yes it is cricial, when we started fishing there we would catch maybe one or two, this couple next to us about 50yds away were bringing them in,  i approached the couple and ask what the secret was, no secret, he said i was watching you, and said you need to get out another 15 yds or so. so after a longer stiffer rod, and a bobber that i can add water to it, now i can catch them, but i am out there now maybe 40yds just guessing. at that distance when i am reeling in slowly, it is hard to detect a strike. and when i do is where i notice the stretch big time, so i did go to suffix 832 in 10lb test, i cannot quite get out there but the sensitivity and hook sets are improved.

 

 

chet

[Team9nine]

1 hour ago, Chet C said:

To me when fishing for crappie from shore, distance is everything, yes it is cricial, when we started fishing there we would catch maybe one or two, this couple next to us about 50yds away were bringing them in,  i approached the couple and ask what the secret was, no secret, he said i was watching you, and said you need to get out another 15 yds or so. so after a longer stiffer rod, and a bobber that i can add water to it, now i can catch them, but i am out there now maybe 40yds just guessing. at that distance when i am reeling in slowly, it is hard to detect a strike. and when i do is where i notice the stretch big time, so i did go to suffix 832 in 10lb test, i cannot quite get out there but the sensitivity and hook sets are improved.

 

 

chet

 

Dropping down to 4-5 lb test should get you there. The original PP in those weights will be much thinner than the 10lb 832, and less mass than mono. Should be able to get that distance easily if you’re already close. Add a leader if you feel necessary, but it may or may not work well depending on the bobber specifics.