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Guys I must do it, I really need to learn it with bait caster, I always getting backlash or cant do it, Any tip and advice will be appreciated.

 

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Set your reel so either the bait barely pulls line from the spool, or it is just at the verge of doing it. Walk out enough line that it's just a little bit further than you'll be able to cast, put a wrap of tape around the spool, now you won't backlash further than that tape. Choose a bait that is easy to skip starting out like a jig or tube. Keep your rod low to the water and pretend you're skipping a rock and the rod is an extension of your arm. It takes practice like any skill, but that will get you started. 

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  • Super User
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watch the spiral cast this gent makes - it's very good

 

 

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  • Super User
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There are many, many "How to" skipping videos.  Also many threads on skipping lures.  Search is your friend.

 

Bulldog, thanks for the link.  I might have to try one, but $20 for 4 plastic baits that are only good for a couple fish (each) gets expensive pretty quickly.  Oh.  That's right.  One would last me a year locally with no problem.  :(

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  • Super User
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The lure is why the jackall youtube showed up on the Tackle page. 

It looks neat, don't think I'll ever buy any, and neutral-density TSL Grasswalker my buddy Tobin makes will cover me for skipping into the mangroves. 

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the cast - I love spiral/ centrifugal casts, anyway. 

Most fishermen are so fixed on a back-cast to load the rod, they don't expect centrifugal to load the rod sufficiently, but this is how people have been surf fishing long rods and heavy weights forever. 

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  • Super User
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I use zero brakes and tons of spool tension to skip. It is completely the opposite setting I use for every other type of cast. 

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  • Super User
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I rely solely on my thumb for skipping.  I just leave my thumb to ride the spool the whole time.  I'm not great at it, so I lose a lot of distance.  But it does prevent backlashes.  

 

Get a baby pool or dog pool and fill it with water to practice skipping in your back yard.  

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2 things that will cut your learning curve by 80%:

 

•Use any”SV” reel from Daiwa i.e. Tatula, Alphas, Zillion, Steez...


•Use the piece of tape just past casting distance that bluebasser recommended. 

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1 hour ago, FryDog62 said:

2 things that will cut your learning curve by 80%:

 

•Use any”SV” reel from Daiwa i.e. Tatula, Alphas, Zillion, Steez...


•Use the piece of tape just past casting distance that bluebasser recommended. 

unfortunately I have no Daiwa, But I have all Shimano DCs. I am trying to do it with shorter rod (6'10") as well to make it easier.

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I’ll go with @Bluebasser86here. DC wind mode I believe is good for you to learn the casting motion, and aiming target. Choose lure that skip well, 3/8 jig with flat trailer like Havoc or D-bomb, weightless Fat Ika is also skip very well. I like MH rod with a little bit softer tip, lure hang about 8-12” from the tip. Once you get used to with casting motion lower to 3 or 2 but keep spool tension to where you gently tug the line but no over run on your spool. 

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Start with a hollow body frog, they skip easier then most lures. Next you cast side arm and aim 10’ in front of the target.

It’s like skipping a flat stone, some arm motion and remember to keep the reel handle upright about 45 degree angle.

Tape over the spool line not used helps to prevent a deep backlash.

I loop cast 90% of the because we have few docks to skin under. The lakes I skip often is Big Bear and Westlake with lots of docks.

You really need a boat to get the right distance off the surface to skip effectively.

Tom

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I guess there's lots of ways to do it but I use the same reel settings I do for anything else. When fishing the river I might skip way under overhangs on one case and bomb the next one out over open water...same reel settings.

 

I think an important thing to remember is that backlashes are caused when the bait suddenly slows down...and the spool keeps going. A really good skip just slides across the surface with very little resistance. Sometimes it's like the thing has a motor. You don't backlash on casts like that. The backlashes come when the bait is hitting the water too hard. So the best way to avoid the backlash is to do a good job of launching the bait.

 

Not to be argumentative but I'm always reading/hearing guys recommend standing on a bucket to practice casting...as if everybody is fishing from a "bass boat" or some other boat with a deck. When I stand in my boat my feet are blow the surface of the water. I can still skip. I skip while sitting in my canoe and I skip while wading in chest deep water. It comes in real handy when bank fishing a wooded bank. Skipping is sometimes about the only way your going to launch a lure and you won't be using any large animated loop/roll cast either. It's all hunched over with limited room to move in any direction. You want a low trajectory. Being close to the water doesn't make it harder.

 

Not to say that awkward positions don't add some challenge but that's fishing especially when you're not on big water in a bass boat. LOL

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  • Super User
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2 hours ago, MGF said:

I I skip while sitting in my canoe and I skip while wading in chest deep water.


Hah, these are some of the only conditions where I can skip with conference.  Being able to keep the rod close to parallel to the surface of the water is a ticket for me.  
 

The only reel I can consistently skip with standing is the Daiwa Alphas SV.  Loose tension/max brakes make it very forgiving.  It still a technique thing to make the cast but these reels make the failures a lot less punishing.  

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  • Super User
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I'm still struggling with the technique but have had some success this year and caught a few fish . A Z-Man Pop Shadz skips like a rock . What helps me is just allow a couple of inches of line from the lure to the rod tip and get the lure close to the water .  Maybe when I get better I'll allow more line out .

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7 hours ago, fishwizzard said:


Hah, these are some of the only conditions where I can skip with conference.  Being able to keep the rod close to parallel to the surface of the water is a ticket for me.  
 

The only reel I can consistently skip with standing is the Daiwa Alphas SV.  Loose tension/max brakes make it very forgiving.  It still a technique thing to make the cast but these reels make the failures a lot less punishing.  

As I said there's different ways to make it work. Using a roll cast with a little bit of line out lets you get the bait close to the water without needing to get the rod tip close to the water.

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