Couldn’t tell difference between my cheaper and more expensive rod….

[dodgeguy]

33 minutes ago, evo2s197 said:

Compared to even a cheaper rod than a Sierra say like a Colt or Fury I would hope so.

 

If you fished a superior brand, I bet you would think your nerve damaged has-been cured, just saying.

I've fished with my friends glx andwith my hands it's not that much better. I can feel everything I need with a Sierra. I do plan on upgrading to a champion.with my Sierra and braid and a 1/2 oz. Football jig I can fee every pebble I drag it over using braid. I can tell immediately if a bass it playing with it. And to really throw gas on the fire my Johnny Morris Signature series are just as good.

[evo2s197]

4 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

I've fished with my friends glx andwith my hands it's not that much better. I can feel everything I need with a Sierra. I do plan on upgrading to a champion.with my Sierra and braid and a 1/2 oz. Football jig I can fee every pebble I drag it over using braid. I can tell immediately if a bass it playing with it. And to really throw gas on the fire my Johnny Morris Signature series are just as good.

How deep do you normally fish?

 

I would imagine the Johnny Morris would be better than a Dobyns offering just not merely just as good even though it's cheaper than your Sierra rod, that's curious.

[fishwizzard]

13 minutes ago, cgolf said:

Very curious on the hate for Dobyns. Mine are every bit as good as my St Croix stuff, no complaints for me. My cap is the approximate 200 range so I will never play in the premium range. 

IMHO Dobyn's rods are good for the almost-always 20% off price.  At full MSRP they are very outclassed.  The higher end ones are not like actively bad, but bad for the money at full price.  I lucked into a DX703c last year and while it's for sure a "Very good fishing rod", it's not an "Excellent fishing rod" like the GLX/Destroyer class while being pretty close in price.  Dobyon's rods are on sale so often it's silly to compare them to other stuff based on msrp. 

[evo2s197]

4 minutes ago, fishwizzard said:

At full MSRP they are very outclassed. 

Exactly my sentiments in my first post.

[fishwizzard]

18 minutes ago, evo2s197 said:

Exactly my sentiments in my first post.

A counter example is the Poison Adrena line. At ~$350 imho they compare very well to the GLX/Destroyer lines and just feel great to fish.    
 

I have a PA611m+ and it outclass the DX703c in every aspect.  Somedays I prefer it to a glx 783c.  
 

But, I think it’s silly to spend more then $60 on a bottle of whisky and could drink Old Granddad 100p forever and be happy, so clearly different people get their skirts blown up by different stuff. 

[ironbjorn]

6 minutes ago, fishwizzard said:

A counter example is the Poison Adrena line. At ~$350 imho they compare very well to the GLX/Destroyer lines and just feel great to fish.    
 

I have a PA611m+ and it outclass the DX703c in every aspect.  Somedays I prefer it to a glx 783c.  
 

But, I think it’s silly to spend more then $60 on a bottle of whisky and could drink Old Granddad 100p forever and be happy, so clearly different people get their skirts blown up by different stuff. 

My friends got me drunk on that on my 21st.

 

Never again. Omg

[NoShoes]

1 hour ago, MN Fisher said:

My cap is even lower than that - I think a Sierra or maybe a Kaden would be as high as I could go budgetarily speaking.

 

I'm very happy with my Dobyns Fury rods - just wished they had more options, like Mod action in things other than the CB rod.

for what it’s worth, my whole arsenal was dobyns fury and then I picked up a Sierra micro used for a 100 bucks. the jump up was very noticeable, even my wife knew the rod was that much nicer. 
 

I still like my fury’s for my moving or weightlessness baits, but for my t-rigs and jigs I went to the sierras. 
 

 

[Catt]

2 hours ago, dodgeguy said:

If you are using any mono other than Sufix Advance its like fishing with a rubber band. 

 

ROTFLMAO ?

[Mobasser]

This all reminds me of when I started years ago. Back then, all I could afford were Berkley Lightning rods. I thought I was moving way up when I bought a Fenwick HMG. But, I really couldn't feel a big difference between them.                                           Eventually, I bought a Shimano Crucial, and then I could really feel a difference.                                Ultimately, I came to the conclusion that rod sensitivity is largely a matter of who's actually holding the rod, and fishing it.                     I bought that Crucial 10yrs ago, and I'm still using it.

[fishwizzard]

52 minutes ago, ironbjorn said:

My friends got me drunk on that on my 21st.

 

Never again. Omg

 

With a little splash of water to get it down to like ~80p it's very sippable.  

 

I rediscovered my love for Old English malt liquor this past year, so now the beer savings go right into the tackle fund!

[dodgeguy]

1 hour ago, evo2s197 said:

How deep do you normally fish?

 

I would imagine the Johnny Morris would be better than a Dobyns offering just not merely just as good even though it's cheaper than your Sierra rod, that's curious.

Down to 20 feet

[Cgolf]

2 hours ago, evo2s197 said:

St croix rods are awesome, I have some Legend Xtreme AGS great rods.

 

My favorite dobyns is probably a Dobyns Extreme HP lure retriever, I cut the blank at the locknot after using it once and feeling meh about it then paired it with a Calcutta Conquest, it's been the most useful in this configuration, knocks those lures free in a hurry and I can feel every thump of the hound dog banging my lure free.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, fishwizzard said:

A counter example is the Poison Adrena line. At ~$350 imho they compare very well to the GLX/Destroyer lines and just feel great to fish.    
 

I have a PA611m+ and it outclass the DX703c in every aspect.  Somedays I prefer it to a glx 783c.  
 

But, I think it’s silly to spend more then $60 on a bottle of whisky and could drink Old Granddad 100p forever and be happy, so clearly different people get their skirts blown up by different stuff. 

So reading this we are looking at very different classes of rods. Even if I could afford the class of rods you fish I likely wouldn’t buy them. St Croix does make good sticks, but the tips are to darn stiff and they can feel like a broomstick on their MH rods. That is keeping me from them for my spinnerbait rod because I want lots of backbone and a soft tip which my 3 Dobyns have.
 

As far as Bourbon goes yeh four roses yellow label is a very solid pour and I enjoy it, but if the wife is in a good mood I won’t turn down a bottle of Bookers. Scotch is a whole different discussion, that s the fly rod of spirits ?  

[evo2s197]

53 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

Down to 20 feet

Braid to leader or straight braid?

20 minutes ago, cgolf said:

St Croix does make good sticks, but the tips are to darn stiff and they can feel like a broomstick on their MH rods. That is keeping me from them for my spinnerbait rod because I want lots of backbone and a soft tip which my 3 Dobyns have.

Try a St. Croix 7ft1 MH extra fast model, they make it in most of their popular series, it's a phenomenal blank, and not a broomstick, it's great for spinnerbaits.

[Cgolf]

12 minutes ago, evo2s197 said:

Braid to leader or straight braid?

Try a St. Croix 7ft1 MH extra fast model, they make it in most of their popular series, it's a phenomenal blank, and not a broomstick, it's great for spinnerbaits.

so the 6’ 6” MH Avid X, Fast I have is too tip stiff for my liking, the 7’ 1” extra fast would have a softer tip? I mostly throw 14 ounce spins. Also hope the op got their question answered as this is a catch all thread now. 

[Boomstick]

I'm not sure the difference between an Aird-X and a Fury is all that much to be honest, so the differences in sensitivity can appear very subtle and in some cases may be very hard to notice.

 

If you were to step up to the Sierra line, I'm fairly sure you'll notice the difference pretty easily.

[evo2s197]

16 minutes ago, cgolf said:

so the 6’ 6” MH Avid X, Fast I have is too tip stiff for my liking, the 7’ 1” extra fast would have a softer tip? I mostly throw 14 ounce spins. Also hope the op got their question answered as this is a catch all thread now. 

The 7ft1 mh xfast will have a softer tip, its almost hinge like, then gets into a stiff backbone, the first 12 inches is pretty soft.

[dodgeguy]

23 minutes ago, evo2s197 said:

Braid to leader or straight braid?

Try a St. Croix 7ft1 MH extra fast model, they make it in most of their popular series, it's a phenomenal blank, and not a broomstick, it's great for spinnerbaits.

Straight braid or flouro no leaders

[evo2s197]

5 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

Straight braid or flouro no leaders

Only negative of braid or braid with leader is no slack line sensitivity, unless you are actively dragging constant.

[Rob St Croix]

11 hours ago, bgaviator said:

So yesterday I took my new Dobyn’s Fury rod out to Sardis Lake spillway. This is the most expensive rod I’ve bought so far. It’s a medium heavy rod. I bought it cause I heard so many good things about it being one of the best rods for the price point. I thought it would be a noticeable step up from my cheaper Daiwa Aird-x. Now granted my AirdX is only a medium rod, and this Dobyn’s is a medium heavy. But I don’t think I could tell a difference at all between them. I couldn’t whip lures quite as far I don’t think with the Dobyn’s, but as far as sensitivity or anything else I couldn’t tell a difference. Makes me question why I spent $130 on that rod as opposed to only $60 for the Daiwa. Is there something wrong with me that I can’t tell the difference?  What do you typically get from a rod by spending more money?  I know there’s rods a ton more expensive than even the Dobyn’s. But I’m just not sure it’s worth it for a casual fisherman like myself to drop that kind of coin on expensive rods I’m not sure I can feel a difference with. Appreciate any input on the matter. 

IMHO the 200 dollar price point is the dividing line on sensitivity.

 

[new2BC4bass]

Depends on the rods.  My first 'good' rod was an Airrus Ultra XL.  A $159.95 rod (an Editor's Choice Award on TT) that I got used for $100.  AFAIC it is a dead rod.  My $60 Field & Stream Tech Spec is more sensitive.

[Boomstick]

1 hour ago, evo2s197 said:

The 7ft1 mh xfast will have a softer tip, its almost hinge like, then gets into a stiff backbone, the first 12 inches is pretty soft.

I just posted about this I believe yesterday in another thread. Sometimes, that's the case. But sometimes the tip is the same stiffness as your MH/F with just a shorter tip.

[padon]

3 hours ago, cgolf said:

so the 6’ 6” MH Avid X, Fast I have is too tip stiff for my liking, the 7’ 1” extra fast would have a softer tip? I mostly throw 14 ounce spins. Also hope the op got their question answered as this is a catch all thread now. 

the 71 medium would be good with 1/4 ounce spinnerbaits. you haveto be careful with st.croix rods. they feel stiff in the store but once you get a reel and a lure on them the tip softens up pretty good.

12 hours ago, bgaviator said:

The Expride is probably next on my purchase list!

exprides are ridicouloysly good for the price. hought my first this april now own 4

[MN Fisher]

3 hours ago, Boomstick said:

If you were to step up to the Sierra line, I'm fairly sure you'll notice the difference pretty easily.

Maybe next fall - this fall/winter's budget is for the boat.

[GreenPig]

My Dobyns Fury MH is a good rod. In fact it's my go to for spinnerbaits and chatterbaits. Now similar to Captain Phil, I bumped my typical $160 rod limit up and tried a Zodias and now own 3. They're very light and extremely sensitive in my hands but they are fast actions. I've also been impressed with the Daiwa Procyon for $80 and have aquired several.

[T-Billy]

7 hours ago, Mobasser said:

Back then, all I could afford were Berkley Lightning rods.

Those things fish way above their price point.

 

IMO rod action is at least as important as sensitivity, maybe more important. I'll take a rod with a great tip and good sensitivity over a pool cue with great sensitivity every time. Dobyns excels in that regard, and the warranty/replacement plan is hard to beat. Simply a matter of personal preference. Find a rod with a blank that works for you, that has quality hardware, and go get 'em.