Geary feeling reels ?

[scaleface]

Some of my  reels   have that geary feeling through the handle during the retrieve . I have cleaned and greased the gears and the worm drive . One of the reels is a two year old Lews Tournament MB .It was a super smooth reel but now has been relegated to a backup position . Any other suggestions on how to get the reels feeling like new again  ? 

[jimmyjoe]

   The greatest satisfaction is likely to come from professional work. I had a reel a few years ago that was "geary". After all my efforts failed, a professional got it working perfectly.

   Sometimes you just gotta do what you just gotta do.  ?       jj

[JustJames]

Cheapest route is to replace all internal  bearing but that only maybe 10-20% of the course. Worst case scenario is to replace gear and pinion (30-50 bucks) that most of the geary feel related to.

[OkobojiEagle]

Thicken up the lube.  Drag grease for the gears and 80wt. oil (lower unit lube) for the frame and handle bearings.  Always use a very light oil for the spool bearings.

 

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[newapti5]

Worn gear set and bearings is the root of that problem. One of the cheap fixing routes is to put on a  pair of thick EVA handle knobs; that'll dampen a lot of the unwanted vibration. And for future reference, maybe lower the drag. Setting a drag too high will definitely shorten the smooth period of any gears. 

[Reel]

Another thing that shortens the smooth period of any gears is turning the handle to stop the lure in midair before it reaches it's target

[scaleface]

47 minutes ago, newapti5 said:

gear set and bearing

Can you elaborate on what parts these are .

[newapti5]

Gear set:  part 40 pinion gear, and part 44 drive gear.  If you change these two, usually it'll solve the majority of the problem.  If not, then you might also want to change the bearings, such as part 89, 55, and 24.  

(This is the schematics for Tournament Pro, but Tournament MB is similar.)

[islandbass]

42 minutes ago, Reel said:

Another thing that shortens the smooth period of any gears is turning the handle to stop the lure in midair before it reaches it's target

Wow. People actually do that? I wonder if those are same people who try foolishly insist on inserting a loop through a small hook eye that you’d practically have to make a crease at the end of the loop to fit it through the eye to tie the palomar. If I had a boat and saw them do that, I’d kick them so lucky I don’t have one. If they were fishing with me on the bank, I just might have to push them into the lake, lol. 

[Linewinder]

1 hour ago, newapti5 said:

... And for future reference, maybe lower the drag. Setting a drag too high will definitely shorten the smooth period of any gears. 

 

I'm learning here.  Please elaborate.  How does drag setting affect longevity of gears?

[waymont]

My old Curado 70 (silver one) got geary after about 2 months. Never figured it out.

[newapti5]

4 hours ago, Linewinder said:

 

I'm learning here.  Please elaborate.  How does drag setting affect longevity of gears?

 

The gears become worn out gradually because of all the winding pressure put on them. Apparently, the more pressure you put on them, the faster they became worn out and lost the smooth feeling. That maximum pressure is exactly what force you set your drag to, plus the extra impact force during hookset. So, the higher the drag, the higher the gears pressure, and the faster they became worn out. 

[dodgeguy]

9 hours ago, scaleface said:

Some of my  reels   have that geary feeling through the handle during the retrieve . I have cleaned and greased the gears and the worm drive . One of the reels is a two year old Lews Tournament MB .It was a super smooth reel but now has been relegated to a backup position . Any other suggestions on how to get the reels feeling like new again  ? 

Send it in and get new pinion and main gears

[evo2s197]

Agree send it in, being a lews there are a plethora of parts available because they are a popular platform and most models are easy to work on if you decide to do it 

Yourself.

[jbrew73]

80% of my Lew’s reels were geary even after sending them back to Lew’s. The only ones that held up were the original tournament pro models.  Try one of the new P2 models or switch brands. 

[FrankN209]

On 9/25/2021 at 5:36 AM, scaleface said:

Some of my  reels   have that geary feeling through the handle during the retrieve . I have cleaned and greased the gears and the worm drive . One of the reels is a two year old Lews Tournament MB .It was a super smooth reel but now has been relegated to a backup position . Any other suggestions on how to get the reels feeling like new again  ? 

What grease are you using on the gears? I had the same problem but when I switched grease to cals grease, the geary feeling went away...

[scaleface]

  Red Quantum grease .

[FrankN209]

1 minute ago, scaleface said:

  Red Quantum grease .

Maybe try cals grease. It worked for me, but I can't promise it will work for you.