Late fall new daiwa steez?

[Bandersnatch]

I heard we're getting a new steez, has anybody else heard this? 

[evilcatfish]

I feel like I saw somebody else mention this somewhere. Its not that new Steez CT some places have up for pre-order is it?

[Bandersnatch]

I don't think so nor do I think the "new steez" is really any different from the old ct except it has a longer handle 

[QED]

The 2021 Limited Edition Steez SV TW was the most recent one I've seen.  The CT SV dates back to 2019 but is my current favorite.  Don't firms mostly announce new stuff at the major trade shows like ICAST?

[bulldog1935]

I would expected to see two changes in a new Steez - a second pinion support bearing, and a lighter-weight spool.  

Don't expect your '19 Steez to be instantly obsolete.  

 

[FishTank]

The newest one I had seen was the HLC version.  

[PhishLI]

12 hours ago, bulldog1935 said:

I would expected to see two changes in a new Steez - a second pinion support bearing

It already has two.

[bulldog1935]

'19 Steez SV-TW-H

57  pinion bearing, 28 spool bearing, 38 looks like an inner pinion bearing and mates with the pinion yoke - they call it clutch-cam BB

The '21 Steez LTD markets on its two pinion bearings.  

[PhishLI]

Yes, a shouldered sleeve that goes into the 2nd bearing's inner race.

[CrankFate]

11 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

Yes, a shouldered sleeve that goes into the 2nd bearing's inner race.

You mean those sleeves are there to make the inner race spin?

[PhishLI]

15 minutes ago, CrankFate said:

You mean those sleeves are there to make the inner race spin?

It's simply a reducer that's no different in use than part # 29 which is instead a cup that its bearing sits in.

[bulldog1935]

the sleeves are tapered, which makes it easier for the pinion to move in and out, and also aligns/limits the side-to-side position - the cylindrical bearing fit would be too snug to move freely.    

 

On this spool bearing, the spacer positions the bearing side to side.  

1134 bearing without sleeve sits deeper into the frame, and 1034 bearing with sleeve is closer to the spool

 

[CrankFate]

On 9/13/2021 at 8:17 PM, PhishLI said:

It's simply a reducer that's no different in use than part # 29 which is instead a cup that its bearing sits in.

 

On 9/13/2021 at 8:26 PM, bulldog1935 said:

the sleeves are tapered, which makes it easier for the pinion to move in and out, and also aligns/limits the side-to-side position - the cylindrical bearing fit would be too snug to move freely.    

 

On this spool bearing, the spacer positions the bearing side to side.  

1134 bearing without sleeve sits deeper into the frame, and 1034 bearing with sleeve is closer to the spool

 

I’m guessing, then, that it’s there to get tighter tolerances? And have the two races independently seated?

[bulldog1935]

In both cases, the side of the tapered sleeve that seats on the bearing race is a tight cylindrical fit - try putting a spool bearing inside the spool bearing sleeve - it has to be perfectly aligned to slide in.  

The part you want to move - inserting the spool into the frame, or engaging and disengaging the pinion, the taper fit limits side-to-side travel, gives you instant alignment, and a low-friction fit that's easy to separate.  

 

[newapti5]

On 9/13/2021 at 7:25 PM, bulldog1935 said:

The '21 Steez LTD markets on its two pinion bearings. 

 

So the limited edition decided to remove the collars of both pinion bearings?  Why is that? I mean, I get the taper design of those collars, to make pinion gear side movement easier, and align it better.  It seems to be a clever design. Why cancel it?

 

[FishTank]

@bulldog1935

Can you explain the difference in all of the current Steez reels while we are at it?  You made some good points above.

 

I have been wanting to ask this for a while as Daiwa doesn't give you much except new marketing catch words with each new reel.

 

I have the Steez SV and CT and have fished the A.  All three feel and fish differently.  

 

I know this is a big ask but I have seen different and even incomplete info.  It would be nice to have it in one post for reference.

 

 

[bulldog1935]

I'll do my best with what I know (checked before I bought my Steez SV-TW).  

Spool diameter and frame MOC with resulting weight are the biggest difference.  

 

The CT reels are smaller diameter, magnesium frame, and 130 g.  

The 1000 series reels are all 34-mm dia spool with different spool depths. 

Steez SV-TW are magnesium frame and 160 g - this also includes Steez LTD.  

Steez A is aluminum frame and 190 g.  

 

Daiwa rates all Steez salt-safe.  

All the listings I checked don't show any mechanical differences between SV-TW and LTD - just finish appearance.