What Defines A Texas Rig ?

[Tatsu Dave]

I looked up the conventional definition and learned it was an offset worm hook with or without bullet style weight, attached to the lure w/hook buried in plastic body for weedless. If that is the case what is rig called if you use either a swimbait or flippin' style hook w/owner CPS locks to hold plastic, rigged weedless?

 

I use stickbaits-lg grubs-worms-creature baits-craw baits-swimbaits-and lizards. 3/0 and 4/0 hooks EWG always just hook tip skin hooked, and heres the big difference to me. I fish them faster in more of a sluggo style w/jerks and twitches steady on retrieve. Seldom let them deadstick or sit for periods on the bottom, they move constantly and trigger a lot of strikes to keep me doing it for so many years. Either way I'm asking what this style of fishing would be called, or is it just something I evolved into. Any opinion's welcome.

[OkobojiEagle]

9 minutes ago, Tatsu Dave said:

what is rig called if you use either a swimbait or flippin' style hook w/owner CPS locks to hold plastic, rigged weedless?

variation on a theme...

 

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[T-Billy]

Pretty generalized term anymore. When I think of a T rig though, a weedless bait with a bullet sinker is what comes to mind.

I use a snelled flippin hook anytime I'm fishing it on bottom anymore. Point buried in the plastic. I can fish it through near anything without hanging up. Hooks them in the roof of the mouth 90+% of the time, and not many come off.

 Flukes, and topwater I use EWG, without a weight. Tex opposed, but I don't think of them as Texas rigged without a weight. I may be wrong by definition, but that's how it works in my mind.

[Tatsu Dave]

1 hour ago, T-Billy said:

Pretty generalized term anymore. When I think of a T rig though, a weedless bait with a bullet sinker is what comes to mind.

I use a snelled flippin hook anytime I'm fishing it on bottom anymore. Point buried in the plastic. I can fish it through near anything without hanging up. Hooks them in the roof of the mouth 90+% of the time, and not many come off.

 Flukes, and topwater I use EWG, without a weight. Tex opposed, but I don't think of them as Texas rigged without a weight. I may be wrong by definition, but that's how it works in my mind.

Guess its a distant twice removed cousin maybe, same theme but a lot different in parts (I use weighted hook's) and totally different in fishing style. This started cause I went to post on a thread about Texas Rig fishing and realized that's very seldom the way I fish, or equipment I use. Oh well I started out years back really using the texas rig, but pinning the bait so it wouldn't keep sliding down the hook and slow bottom retrieves morphed into into this different style over time. 

[Mobasser]

I'll always consider. a T Rig as sliding bullet weight, straight or offset worm hook, and plastic bait of your choice.

[Tatsu Dave]

6 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

I'll always consider. a T Rig as sliding bullet weight, straight or offset worm hook, and plastic bait of your choice.

Exactly as they define it, I agree.............. I have slipped into an unnamed style and will be branded as a non conformist who has went over to the dark side. 

[Mobasser]

1 minute ago, Tatsu Dave said:

Exactly as they define it, I agree.............. I have slipped into an unnamed style and will be branded as a non conformist who has went over to the dark side. 

Dave, there's so many definitions out there anymore, it's hard to keep up with them all.

[Team9nine]

Go back to the origins of the term from that time period; a sliding bullet sinker, a worm, and an oversized hook threaded through the nose of the plastic, pulled through and rotated, then reinserted into the worm to make it “weedless.” Before the term “Texas rig” gained traction,  the setup was most frequently called the “slip sinker” rig or “slip sinker” worm.

 

Updated with link: Texas rig

[Tennessee Boy]

The definition of a Texas Rig has been debated here before. I hope we can all agree to disagree.

 

I'll just say that if you're fishing in my boat, you are welcome to fish a worm weedless and weightless but I will not tolerate someone trying to fish a Texas Rig without a bullet weight.  It just ain't right. 

[J Francho]

A Texas Rig must have a sliding sinker above the hook and the bait is rigged weedless. Anything else is something else. 

[Deleted account]

"Nomenclature is the haven of the incapable"

"Would not a rose by any other name smell as sweet"

"Thingymajigy"

[Catt]

Birth of the Texas Rig

 

Late 50s Creme moves to Tyler, Texas

Nick notices Texas anglers using the replacement worms threaded on a single hook, point buried to make it weedless, no weight. Nick starts putting a hook in the package!

 

Early 60s a weight was added to fish in deeper water.

[T-Billy]

1 hour ago, Tatsu Dave said:

Exactly as they define it, I agree.............. I have slipped into an unnamed style and will be branded as a non conformist who has went over to the dark side. 

The Dave Rig!!! The next big thing to hit bass fishing!!! Soon we'll all need specialized $1000 rigs to fish it. Thanks Dave. Time to start shopping. I'm getting in early on this one!!!

[Tatsu Dave]

1 hour ago, BassWhole! said:

"Nomenclature is the haven of the incapable"

"Would not a rose by any other name smell as sweet"

"Thingymajigy"

I like that just fine weedless and optionally weighted Thingymajigy rig.

19 minutes ago, T-Billy said:

The Dave Rig!!! The next big thing to hit bass fishing!!! Soon we'll all need specialized $1000 rigs to fish it. Thanks Dave. Time to start shopping. I'm getting in early on this one!!!

No I want to remain anonymous and let the Thingymajigy do its stuff. ?

[Tatsu Dave]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

Birth of the Texas Rig

 

Late 50s Creme moves to Tyler, Texas

Nick notices Texas anglers using the replacement worms threaded on a single hook, point buried to make it weedless, no weight. Nick starts putting a hook in the package!

 

Early 60s a weight was added to fish in deeper water.

And now we know the whole story....Thank You Catt its been an informative thread for me. 

[J Francho]

I'm gonna say that when the weight was added would be about the time it was widely known as The Texas Rig. 

[Catt]

17 minutes ago, Tatsu Dave said:

And now we know the whole story....Thank You Catt its been an informative thread for me. 

 

That's according Creme family

 

It was called a Texas Rig because it was founded on Lake Tyler in east Texas. The original weights were bank casting weights with the wire removed.

 

[Tatsu Dave]

Necessity is the mother of invention.........we can get real good at adapting when its something we need.

[Choporoz]

1 hour ago, Tatsu Dave said:

Necessity is the mother of invention.........we can get real good at adapting when its something we need.

I guess gullible fishermen are the mother reinvention 

[Deleted account]

17 hours ago, Choporoz said:

I guess gullible fishermen are the mother reinvention 

Yeah, I was going to say LMB anglers are the lemmings of fishing. 

[WRB]

We have had this debate before and as a result got my only warning from Glenn. To me the Texas Rig includes a sliding bullet weight, not just a weedless hooking technique. 

The 1st Creme worms were harness rigged with a bead and metal propeller. 

Catt gives us the history of this rig and that’s good enough to answer the history questions.

Out west in California the 1st bulk packaged Creme Scoundrel worms were sold without weights in black, purple and brown/natural nightcrawler. The “Texas Rig” weights we painted red and shaped like a short golf tee, pointed nose and wide base. It wasn’t long before bullet shape sliding sinkers became available in painted colors and plain in the mid 60’s. We use straight shank “worm” hooks sprout bend Mustad with barbs. Eagle Claw came out with their worm hook today would a long EWG.

I have always used a sliding bullet style weight for T rigs. If the weight was pegged it was called a Florida rig, now lost in the mist of the past.

The 2nd soft plastic worm was Strimbridge Flip Tails, softer the Creme with a flat tail. 

I don’t recall the other brands but Tom Mann’s Jelly Worms became very popular followed by Mister Twister Phenom curl tail worm. So many injection molded worm followed.

Hand pours were very popular out west starting in the mid 6O’s.

The past 60 years the plastic worm is by far the best bass catching lure with more makers then can listed. 

Tom 

 

[J Francho]

18 minutes ago, WRB said:

The “Texas Rig” weights we painted red and shaped like a short golf tee, pointed nose and wide base.

They had these up through the 80s, because I remember using them.  They actually worked really well.

[Catt]

28 minutes ago, WRB said:

The 1st Creme worms were harness rigged with a bead and metal propeller. 

Catt gives us the history of this rig and that’s good enough to answer the history questions.

 

What you're missing & most everyone else is, you're talking the pre-rigged Creme Scoundrel.

 

The Creme Scoundrel came with an additional worm with no hooks in it. It was these worms that anglers took & threaded on a hook. After Nick Creme got wind of this he started selling 2 or 3 worms in a pack with a single hook. 

 

The locals gave it the name Texas Rig & it wasn't intended for grass but rather wood. Texas lakes at the time had only shoreline grass but they all had standing timber & brush by the thousands of acres. Enter the "sliding" weight, now one could fish vertically in the timber & brush.

[GaryH]

All this history and weedless or not. I feel so dumb. All along I’ve spent countless hours till I located tiny spurs and cowboy hats to fit on my plastics to make them Texas rigged. ??

[Tennessee Boy]

The Cream Pre-rigged worm as sold today.  This is the Curly tail not the Scoundrel.