Carpentry

[Bubba 460]

18 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

I rented this from 2010-2015………… if a carpenter walked in there they would have fainted. If you dropped a tennis ball onto the floor it would roll of into a corner rapidly 

 

 

 

My office chair just rolled across the room with me in it! The satellite dish is a nice touch though and the raised stepping stones are... "different".

[TnRiver46]

Just now, Mobasser said:

I was just about to ask you if it was cold in there. I figured it was. But, you had privacy and dish TV. 

I was just about to ask you if it was cold in there. I figured it was. But, you had privacy and dish TV. 

It was good and bad, I had deer and turkey keeping me company and it was near the water and boat ramps. But I picked two of the coldest years in the last 75 to live there and had to feed that wood stove non stop. It was shocking the place didnt roll away, the log portion was just sitting on stacked river rocks.   
 

believe it or not that place probably isn’t 5-6 miles from the Knoxville airport 

[Mobasser]

I was about to ask you if it was cold, and I figured it was. But, you had privacy and Dish TV.!

[slonezp]

2 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

I was about to ask you if it was cold, and I figured it was. But, you had privacy and Dish TV.!

The finer things in life

[Mobasser]

8 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

I was just about to ask you if it was cold in there. I figured it was. But, you had privacy and dish TV. 

I was just about to ask you if it was cold in there. I figured it was. But, you had privacy and dish TV. 

I figured it was cold in there. But, you had privacy and Dish TV!

I guess I've said that enouph now. Sorry guys

[slonezp]

16 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

I guess I've said that enouph now. Sorry guys

You said it all. The only thing that would have made it better is 4 fingers of bourbon and a cigar. 

[J Francho]

Satellite dish is the state flower I think. 

[Jigfishn10]

18 hours ago, Mobasser said:

Good way to build Catt. We used to use a string line on the walls also. If they needed drawn in, I'd nail a 2x4 to the plate, and to a floor joist. Then cut a short one, to use under that brace, pulling on it to draw in the wall.

That’s how I learned it. We called it a spring board. At the top plate  we ran a dry line with a wood spacer - 3/4” or whatever sheathing scrap you had - on each end. Then you ran another piece down the wall line. When the dry line and spacer bowed out a bit you increase the tension on the spring board, it let it out if the spacer and dry line had a gap.  
 

The hardest thing I framed was a hip roof. I put one on an addition to my own home. Vaulted the ceiling creating a tray. Looks beautiful, but it took a lot of time getting the rafters going into the hip to layout correctly. 
 

Used to love home framing. Now…I can do without the wear and tear on my body.

[Guitarfish]

J Francho I am officially jealous, that is a nice home.  But I just bought a home on 1.1 acre with a 150' drive of gravel.  It will need immediate foundation repair, and then a new roof.  But I paid cash and can spend a good amount on whatever materials and labor are needed to make it cozy.

 

Deer visitors and 4 miles to the launch ramp on the Pacific ocean. I lived in the same noisy location for 30 years so I treated myself to a super quiet spot. 

[Bubba 460]

3 minutes ago, Guitarfish said:

Deer visitors and 4 miles to the launch ramp on the Pacific ocean. I lived in the same noisy location for 30 years so I treated myself to a super quiet spot. 

 

 

NO neighbors are good neighbors! There not much more disheartening then to find out your neighbor(s) are the pits... or worse. Look up convicted felons in you area on the internet.... there are more than you care to see.

[Mobasser]

16 hours ago, J Francho said:

Technically, this is basically a standard colonial styled in a Tudor Revival, and not a craftsman, but many of the techniques are in there. The bay window goes all the way to the basement. The supports for the vaulted roof sections for the attic stairwell is silly over built. I would say about the only thing I'll be replacing is the 1.5" galvanized drains to 2" PVC and adding vented P-traps to the wash basin and kitchen sink. 
 

 

J Francho, when your house was built, I'm thinking one carpentry crew did the framing, trim and finish, and probably built the cabinets on the job site. Many crews used to do this, and for an apprentice it was good, because he got to learn all.phases of this work. Now, it's all separated by trade. Framers generally never do trim and finish work. And trim carpenters only come in after the drywall is hung and taped. Years ago, guys learned a lot more working on a crew.

[J Francho]

16 minutes ago, Guitarfish said:

J Francho I am officially jealous, that is a nice home.  But I just bought a home on 1.1 acre with a 150' drive of gravel.  It will need immediate foundation repair, and then a new roof.  But I paid cash and can spend a good amount on whatever materials and labor are needed to make it cozy.

 

Deer visitors and 4 miles to the launch ramp on the Pacific ocean. I lived in the same noisy location for 30 years so I treated myself to a super quiet spot. 

Thanks, and congrats on your new home.  This is one of three houses in a row, a few streets away from my old house.  We've often dreamed about living here, and when it came up for sale, we snapped it up.  We basically live in a city neighborhood, but in a suburban school district.  We are about a mile from a hand launch, and there are three other boat launches within 10 minutes.  Despite being an urban setting, there's plenty of wildlife.  Pretty sure I've got a Watership Down situation under my deck and I get plenty of visits from Bambi and friends.

[Mobasser]

5 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Thanks, and congrats on your new home.  This is one of three houses in a row, a few streets away from my old house.  We've often dreamed about living here, and when it came up for sale, we snapped it up.  We basically live in a city neighborhood, but in a suburban school district.  We are about a mile from a hand launch, and there are three other boat launches within 10 minutes.  Despite being an urban setting, there's plenty of wildlife.  Pretty sure I've got a Watership Down situation under my deck and I get plenty of visits from Bambi and friends.

It's a cool house. I like the design.

[J Francho]

4 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

J Francho, when your house was built, I'm thinking one carpentry crew did the framing, trim and finish, and probably built the cabinets on the job site. Many crews used to do this, and for an apprentice it was good, because he got to learn all.phases of this work. 

I think you're right.  The basement steps are braced with gumwood trim scraps.  There's a few other places where they were basically not wasting a bit of wood.

[Mobasser]

5 minutes ago, J Francho said:

I think you're right.  The basement steps are braced with gumwood trim scraps.  There's a few other places where they were basically not wasting a bit of wood.

We have quite few houses like yours in Kansas City. Some streets have several in a row. I always liked them because each one is different. Some have a scalloped fascia board, or a dentil molding design. That's what I like about them. They were probably built by the same builder, and he made each one unique. Not a cookie cutter house by any means.

18 hours ago, Catt said:

While we seldom did the electrical or plumbing it was my job to drill holes though plates/studs & holes for door knobs with a brace & bit.

 

Two of dad's cousins were painters & painted the entire house with a 6" paint brush.

 

Dad's first high dollar investment in a power tool was a Shopsmith table saw with a planer, bandsaw, & lathe attachments.

 

Catt, if a guy can learn to set this tool up correctly, he can do so many things. Rip sheet goods, plane boards to thickness, or take a 2x4 and turn it into a nice stair spindle, or a decorative post. Very versatile tool here.

[J Francho]

49 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

We have quite few houses like yours in Kansas City. Some streets have several in a row. I always liked them because each one is different. Some have a scalloped fascia board, or a dentil molding design. That's what I like about them. They were probably built by the same builder, and he made each one unique. Not a cookie cutter house by any means.

I think this has a lot to do with WWII.  Before the war, they could take their time adding detail and uniqueness to each build.  After the war, the race was on to build houses for returning troops.  My previous house was one of these "GI Homes" though it was not cheaply built either.  It just lacked some of the unique craftsmanship this one oozes in every corner of this house.

[Mobasser]

4 minutes ago, J Francho said:

I think this has a lot to do with WWII.  Before the war, they could take their time adding detail and uniqueness to each build.  After the war, the race was on to build houses for returning troops.  My previous house was one of these "GI Homes" though it was not cheaply built either.  It just lacked some of the unique craftsmanship this one oozes in every corner of this house.

Yes your correct. My dad's first house was GI house. I've re habbed a couple that my daughter bought. Some are built on a slab, with no basement, but built well.

[J Francho]

Very few homes on slabs here. 

[Catt]

50 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

 

Catt, if a guy can learn to set this tool up correctly, he can do so many things. Rip sheet goods, plane boards to thickness, or take a 2x4 and turn it into a nice stair spindle, or a decorative post. Very versatile tool here.

 

Dad bought the Shopsmith when he got into building custom cabinets. 

 

@J Francho You are correct with the exception they still built both. 

 

The 68th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing, Medium was established on October 4, 1951 and activated on October 10, 1951 at Lake Charles AFB, later renamed Chennault AFB, after Claire Chennault of the Flying Tiger fame. Entire subdivisions were built on & off base to house military personnel & support personnel.

[deaknh03]

On 9/1/2021 at 3:41 PM, Catt said:

 

If the cut man was good he didn't need to get measurements from anyone. He either added or subtracted to the length of the previous cut.

 

One of my first jobs was building tees, corners, window, & door frames. I counted how many of each was needed from the blueprint & built them before the slab was even dry.

 

My dad & uncles were the first crew around here to frame a whole wall on the ground & stand it up. This way the top & bottom plate was nailed without toe nailing.

 

Another thing I did was pull a string line on each wall & straighten it out. Something no one does to day!

 

I also walked the top plate with a sledgehammer appling a couple good smacks over each stud tighting everything up.

We did the exact same things on my first crew, 30 years ago. 

On 9/2/2021 at 7:22 AM, J Francho said:

Satellite dish is the state flower I think. 

Plastic flamingo the state bird?

On 9/1/2021 at 9:25 PM, TnRiver46 said:

I rented this from 2010-2015………… if a carpenter walked in there they would have fainted. If you dropped a tennis ball onto the floor it would roll of into a corner rapidly 

 

Thats a hunting cabin

[TnRiver46]

11 minutes ago, deaknh03 said:

We did the exact same things on my first crew, 30 years ago. 

Plastic flamingo the state bird?

Thats a hunting cabin

Well since I don’t hunt we deemed it an authentic mountain man Jim bridger trapper cabin (with electricity and TV). 
 

 

[Catt]

2 hours ago, deaknh03 said:

We did the exact same things on my first crew, 30 years ago. 

 

Every measurement is on the framing square, problem is most "carpenters" today can't read a framing square!

[deaknh03]

Just now, Catt said:

 

Every measurement is on the framing square, problem is most "carpenters" today can't read a framing square!

Or know how to use it. 

[MN Fisher]

3 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

Every measurement is on the framing square, problem is most "carpenters" today can't read a framing square!

 

2 minutes ago, deaknh03 said:

Or know how to use it. 

Or in some cases - even what one is.

[Catt]

4 minutes ago, deaknh03 said:

Or know how to use it. 

 

If ya can't read it then ya don't how to use it!