Carpentry

[Mobasser]

1 minute ago, Catt said:

The good thing is lots of Dads, Uncles, & Pawpaws are telling kids forget college, grab a pair of steel toe boots, get dirty & sweaty & learn a trade or two!

 

Yes I believe every kid should have an opportunity to go to college but I understand not every kid is college material.

Catt, they can make good money in the trades, if they put some time in and learn.

[Catt]

12 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

Catt, they can make good money in the trades, if they put some time in and learn.

 

My oldest grandson had college paid for but opted for Plumber Apprentice instead.

 

My grandson Aiden's mom wanted him to go to work for Chick-fil-A, I got him on as an electrician helper next summer.

[TnRiver46]

18 minutes ago, Catt said:

The good thing is lots of Dads, Uncles, & Pawpaws are telling kids forget college, grab a pair of steel toe boots, get dirty & sweaty & learn a trade or two!

 

Yes I believe every kid should have an opportunity to go to college but I understand not every kid is college material.

They told us all to go to college in high school, the kids that didn’t are making big money. The kids that did are mostly deep in debt. Luckily I got college for free but my buddies that work in factories make 3 times as much as me 

[PourMyOwn]

8 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

They told us all to go to college in high school, the kids that didn’t are making big money. The kids that did are mostly deep in debt. Luckily I got college for free but my buddies that work in factories make 3 times as much as me 

I'm a teacher and never sold that line of bs. Sadly, most of my coworkers disagree with me. 

[GaryH]

On 9/1/2021 at 2:21 PM, Bubba 460 said:

 

I can relate to that having worked on a framing crew for seven years in the 60's and 70's. For the last 18 years we have been living in a house that was built in 1779. The brick walls are 18 inches thick, interlocking. The ceilings are 10 feet high on the main floor. The rafters are notched heart of pine (no ridge) in excellent shape.  It has plastered walls and ceilings and a slate roof. Six fire places and an English basement. That's not to say that work has not been done to it and It's not perfect but it's still standing strong after more the 250 years. It's well built and it's home. Haunted?... that's still debatable, lets just say I take pretty good care of the grave yard.

Beautiful Home..

[Catt]

36 minutes ago, PourMyOwn said:

I'm a teacher and never sold that line of bs. Sadly, most of my coworkers disagree with me. 

 

One of my nieces had a full ride after high school, flunked out her first year of college because she didn't apply herself. 25 years later, a little more mature, she's a high school chemistry teacher.

 

 

[TnRiver46]

46 minutes ago, PourMyOwn said:

I'm a teacher and never sold that line of bs. Sadly, most of my coworkers disagree with me. 

Keep up the good work!!!

[Mobasser]

Carpentry or any trade skills are good to know. Even if you don't make your profession as a tradesman, you can repair your own house and save a lot of money. I would encourage any homeowner to learn the basics of carpentry , plumbing, and electrical work.

[MN Fisher]

2 minutes ago, Mobasser said:

I would encourage any homeowner to learn the basics of carpentry , plumbing, and electrical work.

Dad taught me all that growing up. I've built walls to sub-divide my basement; run outlets, switches and hung new lights in those divided areas; and some years ago worked to replace my water heater...which involved sweating in couplers as the previous water heater had been hard-soldered to the lines.

[Hammer 4]

4 hours ago, Mobasser said:

Carpentry or any trade skills are good to know. Even if you don't make your profession as a tradesman, you can repair your own house and save a lot of money. I would encourage any homeowner to learn the basics of carpentry , plumbing, and electrical work.

Agreed. My Son who is 47, and works for a well known freight company, and basically does logistics, he did work for me for a few months years ago. So he  remodeled his home last year, with a bit of advice from the old man. He installed all new flooring, base, case and crown molding. Helped him install 2 vinyl 8' sliders. All said and done, he did a fairly nice job, interior looks much larger, brighter, and added a sense of a higher priced home. Pretty proud of what he did.

[Biglittle8]

11 hours ago, Catt said:

The good thing is lots of Dads, Uncles, & Pawpaws are telling kids forget college, grab a pair of steel toe boots, get dirty & sweaty & learn a trade or two!

 

Yes I believe every kid should have an opportunity to go to college but I understand not every kid is college material.

☝️This!  When I went to high school, two year trade programs were an option starting in 10th grade. I opted for a building trade "degree" we framed, roofed and wired a garage in the shop. We also did various plumbing and masonry jobs for churches and communities. These courses were taught by real "Tradesmen"  I know that wasn't even available for my kids. It's a shame more young people aren't interested in trades. 

[Catt]

The real heros of Hurricanes Luara & Ida and then a historic ice storm!

 

Most aren't college educated ?

[J Francho]

Just like college isn't for everyone, neither are trades.  I didn't go to college, but I work in an industry that mostly did.  I think the key is to find something you are good at that you'll actually not hate day in and day out.  It's cute when someone says "find your passion" but in reality, we still gotta pay bills.  What ever you do, do it well and try to learn how to do it better.

[12poundbass]

1 hour ago, Catt said:

The real heros of Hurricanes Luara & Ida and then a historic ice storm!

 

Most aren't college educated ?

This is what I’m trying to get my son to do when he gets to the age. Around here it’s about $12k and 18 months of schooling and he’d be making $100k plus a year with pretty good benefits and retirement. I don’t want him to ride the struggle bus like I did for the first 15 years or so of my adult life. 

[Catt]

42 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Just like college isn't for everyone, neither are trades.

 

I raised 6 kids & am currently raising 2 grandkids. I strongly encourage them to get a good education & I taught them a strong work ethic.

 

Those two will take you wherever ya wanna go!

[flatcreek]

I made my living in the Trades,primarily Carpentry.

Framing,trim and concrete formwork.Also poured concrete ,flatwork and poured walls.Was an accomplished Roofer also,flatwork,asphalt and fiberglass shingles.Being retired now I look back and know I really loved the work I did but often wonder what if I had got a degree what path would I be traveling now.No matter what you do,give it your best shot and learn all you can , you will be well served as you will provide good service to your clients.

[Mobasser]

I remember one young guy that hired with our crew. He showed up on time each day, and gave it 100% effort. But after several months he gave notice, and realized that carpentry just wasn't for him.                                              I saw him a few years after he left, and he had gone to school to become an x ray tech, and had a good job at a local.hospital. He found his niche, When he left us he thanked the boss for teaching him about carpentry. I'm sure he's probably used the skills he learned as a carpenter. I agree trade work is not for everyone, some guys are just not cut out for it. But, there's a job of some kind out there for everyone. Whatever you choose, keep your chin up, and be proud to be a working man.

[flatcreek]

1 hour ago, Mobasser said:

I remember one young guy that hired with our crew. He showed up on time each day, and gave it 100% effort. But after several months he gave notice, and realized that carpentry just wasn't for him.                                              I saw him a few years after he left, and he had gone to school to become an x ray tech, and had a good job at a local.hospital. He found his niche, When he left us he thanked the boss for teaching him about carpentry. I'm sure he's probably used the skills he learned as a carpenter. I agree trade work is not for everyone, some guys are just not cut out for it. But, there's a job of some kind out there for everyone. Whatever you choose, keep your chin up, and be proud to be a working man.

Agree it’s not for everyone because in reality parts of building is quite frankly, dangerous .

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[J Francho]

There's a lot of things I love to do that I would not want to depend on for income. 

[TnRiver46]

46 minutes ago, J Francho said:

There's a lot of things I love to do that I would not want to depend on for income. 

You are actually Tony hawk, aren’t you?? I knew it all along 

[J Francho]

He's way older than me and I'm better looking. 

[Bubba 460]

 

For her birthday my wife, Sharon, wanted a new kitchen. And who could blame her, what was there was  the original kitchen done when the addition was added onto the 1779 house back in the 30's or early 40's. The sink was one of those 80 pound porcelain, one-piece behemoths and the metal cabinet under was mostly painted rust. The cabinets were as thick with paint as they were with wood and all the latches were broken off. See before and after photos.

I went to Lowe's and picked out the cabinets, counter top, sink and backboard. Then  I got and estimate on having a professional crew come in and do the install (just the install labor) they wanted $3,500 ~ WHAT! ~ No thanks! I called my retired carpenter friend and he and his carpenter son came over and we put the whole kitchen in in 11 hours, cutting the counter top and sink hole too.... BAM, just like that! Sharon and I painted the kitchen walls green and I dyed the curtain in some left over paint to match the walls. Not too shabby. I paid my friends $400 each for their excellent help.

[J Francho]

$3500 does seem steep for that job. I'd be thinking twice too. Looks great. I've used their installer for screen doors, but they have this one guy I'd use even if it wasn't Lowe's. For $100 Dan does as good a job as me and I don't have to. It doesn't hurt that he's super friendly. Hope to have him over at the new house for three more screen doors. 

[Hammer 4]

$ 3500.00 would be considered cheap here in so. cali. 

[Bubba 460]

20 minutes ago, Hammer 4 said:

$ 3500.00 would be considered cheap here in so. cali. 

 

 

I knew it could be done in a day... $3,500 was just robbery.