“Murray’s Triple drop-shot”

[paulmandude]

Saw a video that blew my mind. Never even had a thought of this and it has been under my nose this whole time!  Use a treble hook on your drop shot with three flukes. Its like a mini A-rig that is legal in more states since it has only one hook. John Murray says he likes to work it fast, covering water with a heavier weight like 3/8 oz. He likes to use it during the spawn and when the standard drop shot doesn’t seem to be working to give them a different look. I’ll be trying it!

[Buzzbaiter]

Sometimes I see something and I’m not sure whether it’s genius, or stupid. This is one of those things. I’m excited to try it out, but to me the flukes look a bit too close together to be natural. But who knows, it could be the next big thing.

[ATA]

I have done that, Not a fan really.

[Bluebasser86]

Saw a post on another forum of a guy doing it on Table Rock and having very good results. 

[Black Hawk Basser]

You could go with two regular flukes and then a super fluke in a contrasting color, kind of like what's done on an A rig.

[Deleted account]

It works, but then again so most other things...

[fishwizzard]

I do a lot of cast-n-crank fishing with a DS rigged with a small paddle tail, the idea of making a mini A-rig out of it seems interesting.  

 

Losing three rather then a single 3" Easy Shiner per hit sounds a lot less interesting though.   

 

EDIT: Some of the 13fishing filters are still up and running it seems like.  

[Big Hands]

In my experience, John Murray has always been an angler that is open to and actively does try things that are different. Do that enough, and you'll probably hit on some things that others are not likely to have tried.

 

The only time that I recall having a tournament here at Castaic Lake with a top tier field of western US anglers (in spite of tremendous fishing at that time, it was just way too small to fairly host such an event) was way back in the 90's when this place was on fire with big fish. I went out to watch and observe them practicing. I ran into John on the ramp and asked how it was going for him. Turns out that he (among many others that were not familiar with the lake) had been struggling a little bit and he had resorted to trying some things that were not exactly mainstream, LOL. 

 

Of course, in spite of not having a great practice, he was the consummate professional and was quite nice to talk to.

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As for the triple drop shot, I can see myself giving this a 'shot' (pun intended) just to see if it works any better than what I would normally use. I imagine it catching fish, but it remains to be seen if it will be feasible/cost-effective for lil' ol' me that isn't exactly being paid to catch fish by any stretch of the imagination.

[WRB]

Everyone tends to forget that drop shot started out as down shot. Before that it was a dropper loop, the hook wasn’t tied directly on the line it was a loop about 3” off the line.

Down Shot started out as stacking with more then 1 hook tied directly on the line, in California we were allowed 3 hooks stacked about 8” apart. 

The Owner Down Shot hook #5133 dates before Mosquito hooks. Octopus hook were called Stelie squids hook hooks we used to nose hook live crawdads in the 60’s.

I still stack down shot rigs.

Does anyone remember the Westy worm rig from Arizona Murray’s Home state?

In 1961 fishing Lake Roosevelt AZ I bought my 1st safety pin type double willow spinner bait a home made lure being sold at the tackle shop. Before that we used twin spins with 2 arms. 

Tom

 

[Skunkmaster-k]

10 hours ago, WRB said:

Everyone tends to forget that drop shot started out as down shot. Before that it was a dropper loop, the hook wasn’t tied directly on the line it was a loop about 3” off the line.

Down Shot started out as stacking with more then 1 hook tied directly on the line, in California we were allowed 3 hooks stacked about 8” apart. 

The Owner Down Shot hook #5133 dates before Mosquito hooks. Octopus hook were called Stelie squids hook hooks we used to nose hook live crawdads in the 60’s.

I still stack down shot rigs.

Does anyone remember the Westy worm rig from Arizona Murray’s Home state?

In 1961 fishing Lake Roosevelt AZ I bought my 1st safety pin type double willow spinner bait a home made lure being sold at the tackle shop. Before that we used twin spins with 2 arms. 

Tom

 

I googled “ tying a down shot “ and all I could get back was “ how to tie a drop shot “ 

[MN Fisher]

8 minutes ago, Skunkmaster-k said:

I googled “ tying a down shot “ and all I could get back was “ how to tie a drop shot “ 

Tie it the same way - with one hook 'up' and the other two 'down'.

[TOXIC]

Will it work?  Sure.  Same with using a jig as your dropshot weight essentially giving you 2 lures in one.  St Clair guys have been throwing Double Fluke rigs for years.  Me personally, I don’t like losing a lot of baits and have never had a problem with a straight dropshot.  One peanut smallie on that treble hook setup will lose you 3 flukes.  I guaranttee.??

[Skunkmaster-k]

20 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Tie it the same way - with one hook 'up' and the other two 'down'.

So the palomar will work 

[InfantryMP]

I found it to be interesting. I do agree the flukes seem to be close together, but at the end of the day I think the bass will see that crazy movement and attack it out of instinct. I think it can produce very well, but will also be subject to need to have a few bags of flukes handy.

[WRB]

Don’t use the Palomar knot for multiple hooks, the tag end is weakened during the clinch tightening.

I use the San Diego jam knot starting about 2’ up the line point up and the 2nd about 1’ below point up, then add the drop shot weight. I only use 2 hook stacking rig, usually with 2 different color worms. When I know what color is working then use 2 the same. 

This is a finesse rig for me and if 2 bass get hooked it’s a hand full on light tackle. 

I tried a jig for the weight and the hook set suffers not knowing which bait the bass strike.

Tom

[Skunkmaster-k]

2 hours ago, WRB said:

Don’t use the Palomar knot for multiple hooks, the tag end is weakened during the clinch tightening.

I use the San Diego jam knot starting about 2’ up the line point up and the 2nd about 1’ below point up, then add the drop shot weight. I only use 2 hook stacking rig, usually with 2 different color worms. When I know what color is working then use 2 the same. 

This is a finesse rig for me and if 2 bass get hooked it’s a hand full on light tackle. 

I tried a jig for the weight and the hook set suffers not knowing which bait the bass strike.

Tom

Awesome. The San Diego is one of my favorites. Do you normally cast the down shot or is it strictly for vertical fishing? 

[WRB]

I normally cast a drop shot or down shot stacked rig no further then 30’ and fish it vertically as much as possible. 

If I cast it’s the slip shot rig to cover more water.

Tom

[Skunkmaster-k]

Ok , what the heck is a slip shot ?

[WRB]

1 hour ago, Skunkmaster-k said:

Ok , what the heck is a slip shot ?

Using your main line a cylinder shape weight (mojo) goes up the line followed by a 8mm glass faceted bead. The bead can be pegged using a Peg-It for the weight stopper. The worm hook can be any light wire  drop shot or down shot hook size depended on soft plastic. I prefer using a Plastic Carolina Keeper for the weight stopper so the weight hits the bead to click. 

I also use the #5133 size 2/0 to weedless rig 6”,size 1/0 for 5” Finesse worms. Since FC line tends to sink I prefer using Maxima Ultra Green 5 lb Copolymer line that floats off the bottom and snags less often. The distance between the weight stopper is adjustable by moving the weight stopper, 24”to 36”.

I use1/8 oz unless it’s windy then go to 3/16 oz.

This is a finesse C-Rig with only 1 knot at the hook, no swivel.

Tom

[Skunkmaster-k]

Thanks for answering my questions Tom. 

[WRB]

40 minutes ago, Skunkmaster-k said:

Thanks for answering my questions Tom. 

You can always PM me for a sketch.

Tom

[FishTank]

I use to fish this for crappie when I was a kid so drop shot is not exactly new to me.  There use to be a company that sold these pre-rigged.  I also remember putting a snag hook between the two bait hooks.  Not the best for the fish though.