N.Y. Yankee Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 What are the real differences in these three lines? Their website seems to say the same things. 1 Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 Its just difference in quality. The Red Label is like a budget option. Blue Label used to be Seaguars top of the line leader material. Even though its been around for the better part of 20 years its still the best overall leader I've ever used. Gold label is Seaguars latest leader material. Its a little thinner then BL which is impressive because BL is really thin. Not sure if they have increased the abrasion resistance enough to make a practical difference or not. 2 Quote
throttleplate Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 still not sure what caused all the chaffing of my leader up top by the clip and swivel only but am sticking with blue label. 2 Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted August 23, 2021 Super User Posted August 23, 2021 Gold is the hardest and lowest memory by far - it's also the smallest diameter for equivalent test by far. It's priced and packaged only for leader. 30-lb Gold is the same diameter as 20-lb Blue, but it's stiffer and harder to bend for knots. This is 40-lb Gold on a surf leader, tied to 46-lb X-braid (at a green marker in the braid). Blue is great all-round, intermediate diameter for lb-test, good choice for leader. Strong knots and easy to tie. Red is economy, priced in bulk spools for filling reels, largest diameter for lb-test. Used to buy red in bulk spools, swapped to Abrazx along the way. I've pretty much gone to braid + leader across the board. I have a few spools filled with low-memory Tatsu. Where I use light fluoro, I like Toray Exthread best. (Fluoro is always better in saltwater because of density) Light mono choice is Mason Ultragreen. 4 Quote
CrankFate Posted August 25, 2021 Posted August 25, 2021 No idea, but the Red fishing line is now my go to leader material. Great stuff. 1 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted August 25, 2021 Super User Posted August 25, 2021 I accidentally order some Premier (for saltwater) instead of Gold Label earlier this year and so far I love it. I would highly recommended it. Just in case, I found the San Diego Jam knot works best. 3 Quote
Aaron_H Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 Premier has been my go-to inshore/freshwater leader material for ~5 years now, can't recommend it enough. Blue label is a close second, but I've definitely been curious about trying Gold label. 1 Quote
txchaser Posted August 26, 2021 Posted August 26, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 1:53 PM, bulldog1935 said: it's also the smallest diameter for equivalent test by far. Is that by labeled test or actual test? Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted August 26, 2021 Super User Posted August 26, 2021 Gold label is a stronger, harder formulation. In the same diameter, Blue Label is 25-lb test and Gold is 30-lb. In the same diameter, they don't bend the same. I hope this thing is on. US Market is already screwed up with pound-test, while the rest of the world sizes everything by diameter. Inches couldn't be a more imprecise line diameter measurement, and reporting braid in pound-test is just plain dumb. These are two YGK fluorocarbon leaders, same diameter (#3) They report Max breaking strength, and these leaders have two different formulations with two different qualities - good knotting and stretch, vs. max abrasion resistance. We buy Japanese reels all sized to this system, then try to figure out how much fluorocarbon they'll hold sold as pound-test. And if you find yourself trying to do that, use Pattaya Line Capacity Calculator @FishTank @Aaron_H - always throwing different odds and ends in my JDM order carts, picked up spools of JDM Grand Max Premier to try in my inshore and salt UL niches. Tied a few leaders, but won't be fishing them before fall. Summer doldrums here are a tough time to fish inshore, though summer low tides is a great time in the surf. 1 Quote
txchaser Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 18 hours ago, bulldog1935 said: Gold label is a stronger, harder formulation. Do you find it better or worse on knot strength specifically? Quote
Super User bulldog1935 Posted August 27, 2021 Super User Posted August 27, 2021 Since I only have Gold in 30- and 40-lb, I haven't broken a knot. It's tougher to tie a knot with Gold than with Blue in the same diameter. Bending to get a good Allbright to braid was a chore, though the result is tough as nails. If you check my macro-photo two posts up, there's no damage in the leader at the knot. It ties good perfection loops. Where I choose Gold or YGK Hard is for the fish and the fishing. Abrasion resistance - redfish throat, spec teeth, snook gill plates. Repeated abuse pushing leader class. If I was choosing to tie knots direct to lures, I'd choose Blue because it knots easier. Even in Blue, I've had some Uni knots in big diameter (25-lb) slip loose. Specifically knot strength - this is Seaguar, not Rio fluoro leader. Poor knot strength has to do with the leader being notch-sensitive and being damaged by tying knots. I wouldn't expect any Seaguar fluoro to have poor knot strength. I've tied direct using Tatsu, Abrazx and miles of Red. I can't ever remember breaking a knot (except Rio). I did lose a monster lifetime snook on 12-lb Tatsu, but that was probably a gill-plate cut. 1 Quote
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