EWG Ned hooks

[Bluebasser86]

Anyone have an inside source on the hooks for the EWG Ned hooks? Just bought the mold and it comes with 50 hooks but can't find more in stock anywhere. Victory 10777 #1 EWG is what it says on the website. 

[ike8120]

I would contact Victory directly on their website. 

www.victoryhooks.com

 

Just saw on FB someone else was looking for these hooks, looks like out of stock.

 

[Munkin]

Everyone is sold out, I was able to get the mold and 300 hooks.

 

Allen 

 

 

[Munkin]

On 8/20/2021 at 2:21 AM, Bluebasser86 said:

Anyone have an inside source on the hooks for the EWG Ned hooks? Just bought the mold and it comes with 50 hooks but can't find more in stock anywhere. Victory 10777 #1 EWG is what it says on the website. 

 

If you really need them I could spare 100? I am so busy with other projects that I won't get around to using them all before stores can restock. 

 

Allen 

[Bluebasser86]

1 hour ago, Munkin said:

 

If you really need them I could spare 100? I am so busy with other projects that I won't get around to using them all before stores can restock. 

 

Allen 

I'm not sure how many I'll actually initially need, the 50 might get me through until I can get some. I'd hate to take yours and then they not be available for a long time and you need them.

[Munkin]

Just an FYI the hooks Michael Bury sells on Facebook do not fit the Do-It mold. It can be modified with a dremel but not sure if you are willing to do that. 

 

Allen 

[Munkin]

This is what I get when I try to put one of his hooks in the mold. Not sure which way I want to go? Thinking of just making a spincast mold and not even using the Do-It one since I have 2k of the VMC hooks on order. 

 

Allen 

[Bluebasser86]

3 hours ago, Munkin said:

This is what I get when I try to put one of his hooks in the mold. Not sure which way I want to go? Thinking of just making a spincast mold and not even using the Do-It one since I have 2k of the VMC hooks on order. 

 

Allen 

I don't know how hard it is to make a spincast mold but if the VMC hooks are readily available, that's probably how I'd go. I'm afraid it's going to be a long time until the Victory hooks are available in any number with them being a new company, but I didn't want to miss out on the mold either. 

[STO1776]

I modified my mold for the VMC hooks I bought on facebook. Was pretty easy with a dremel. I ordered two of the weedless molds, so now I will be able to make them in 2/0 VMC and sized 1 in victory, if they ever are available.

[Glenn]

Gamakatsu is making them now.  Called "Weedless Finesse Jig Heads".  They're not on the market just yet.  I think Oct/Nov timeframe.

[Bluebasser86]

6 hours ago, Glenn said:

Gamakatsu is making them now.  Called "Weedless Finesse Jig Heads".  They're not on the market just yet.  I think Oct/Nov timeframe.

The actual hook for the mold or the entire finished jighead?

[Glenn]

The entire finished jighead.  I have some, and here are the pics.

 

While not "technically" a traditionally-shaped Ned head, this is the weedless finesse jighead, which is designed to be fished in all situations where you would use a Ned rig in similar fashion, but in weedy areas:

 

Note the concave head for the eye:

 

And this is their new Finesse Jighead, which has a more traditional Ned rig shape, plus a screw lock:

[MN Fisher]

59 minutes ago, Glenn said:

While not "technically" a traditionally-shaped Ned head, this is the weedless finesse jighead, which is designed to be fished in all situations where you would use a Ned rig in similar fashion, but in weedy areas:

 

These are the ones I have - and since I hate screw locks set up on the shank of the hook...they're what I'll continue to use.

[Munkin]

Definitely don't use soft lead with this mold. Everyone I poured the head is extremely loose. 

 

Allen 

[Bluebasser86]

3 hours ago, Munkin said:

Definitely don't use soft lead with this mold. Everyone I poured the head is extremely loose. 

 

Allen 

I used one this weekend and went 100% on hookups and caught my biggest of the tournament on it. Thankfully didn't lose any heads either. 

[Harry Glacken]

On 8/22/2021 at 7:31 PM, Munkin said:

This is what I get when I try to put one of his hooks in the mold. Not sure which way I want to go? Thinking of just making a spincast mold and not even using the Do-It one since I have 2k of the VMC hooks on order. 

 

Allen 

Munkin what VMC part number are you using?

 

Munkin what VMC part number are you using?

[Munkin]

12 minutes ago, Harry Glacken said:

Munkin what VMC part number are you using?

 

Munkin what VMC part number are you using?

Not sure what it is without  checking tomorrow they are listed on Captain hooks website. 

 

Allen 

[Bluebasser86]

26 minutes ago, Harry Glacken said:

Munkin what VMC part number are you using?

 

Munkin what VMC part number are you using?

https://www.captainhookswarehouse.com/products/vmc---6317bn

[PourMyOwn]

On 8/29/2021 at 3:42 PM, Munkin said:

Definitely don't use soft lead with this mold. Everyone I poured the head is extremely loose. 

 

Allen 

I've had the same issue with the standard Ned head mold too. 

[Harry Glacken]

21 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

https://www.captainhookswarehouse.com/products/vmc---6317bn

Thanks for the info.

[Harry Glacken]

12 hours ago, PourMyOwn said:

I've had the same issue with the standard Ned head mold too. 

I had same issue but only with the 1/16 and 3/32 oz when I bent spru back and forth to remove. I started cutting the spru off with side cutters and filing and haven't had any loose ones since. 

[Bluebasser86]

31 minutes ago, Harry Glacken said:

I had same issue but only with the 1/16 and 3/32 oz when I bent spru back and forth to remove. I started cutting the spru off with side cutters and filing and haven't had any loose ones since. 

Cutting the sprue and using harder lead both are keys to getting good Ned heads.

[Junk Fisherman]

I'll throw in my unsolicited advice.  If you are fishing with Elaztech use an open hook Ned rig unless you are fishing cover that absolutely will not allow it.  I fish a Ned rig a lot and use it in grassy cover often.  With a #2 or better yet a #4 hook, it will not catch that much vegetation and you can shake it off a lot of the time mid-retrieve.  I tried some Owner EWG jigs with a #1 hook and T-riged a TRD and my hookup percentage went down.  Sure, I didn't get snagged hardly at all but I didn't catch as many fish.  The hook did not pass through the Elaztech as easily as I needed it to and we don't do much of a hookset with a Ned.   Since I make my own Ned rig jigs and they are cheap, I don't mind losing a couple if it ensures more fish. Maybe others have better results but this is what I have found.  Good luck.  

[Bluebasser86]

1 hour ago, Junk Fisherman said:

I'll throw in my unsolicited advice.  If you are fishing with Elaztech use an open hook Ned rig unless you are fishing cover that absolutely will not allow it.  I fish a Ned rig a lot and use it in grassy cover often.  With a #2 or better yet a #4 hook, it will not catch that much vegetation and you can shake it off a lot of the time mid-retrieve.  I tried some Owner EWG jigs with a #1 hook and T-riged a TRD and my hookup percentage went down.  Sure, I didn't get snagged hardly at all but I didn't catch as many fish.  The hook did not pass through the Elaztech as easily as I needed it to and we don't do much of a hookset with a Ned.   Since I make my own Ned rig jigs and they are cheap, I don't mind losing a couple if it ensures more fish. Maybe others have better results but this is what I have found.  Good luck.  

For my Zman baits, I do use the open hooks, but with very thin plastics, this EWG ned works great.

[T-Billy]

20 hours ago, Junk Fisherman said:

I'll throw in my unsolicited advice.  If you are fishing with Elaztech use an open hook Ned rig unless you are fishing cover that absolutely will not allow it.  I fish a Ned rig a lot and use it in grassy cover often.  With a #2 or better yet a #4 hook, it will not catch that much vegetation and you can shake it off a lot of the time mid-retrieve.  I tried some Owner EWG jigs with a #1 hook and T-riged a TRD and my hookup percentage went down.  Sure, I didn't get snagged hardly at all but I didn't catch as many fish.  The hook did not pass through the Elaztech as easily as I needed it to and we don't do much of a hookset with a Ned.   Since I make my own Ned rig jigs and they are cheap, I don't mind losing a couple if it ensures more fish. Maybe others have better results but this is what I have found.  Good luck.  

I tried some #1 and 1/0 EWG hooks last spring for fishing small baits on a T-Rig in grass. My hookup percentage was terrible and most of the fish I landed weren't hooked very well. Just not enough gap there. The solution I found was the little 1/0 VMC flippin hook. Excellent hookup ratio. They can be hard to find though.