look at the wear on #30 seaguer fluoro leader after 4 hrs.

[throttleplate]

i have many snelled fluoro leaders clipped onto braid to make lure changes easy while wading. This particular leader caught me 4 good sized bass in heavy pads with heavy weeds beneath. I had to drag them in by pulling on the braided line by gloved hand.

 

When i looked at the leader the next day i felt all the wear and looked at it close and was really surprised to see all the rough wear from the pads and weeds.

The damage was all nearest the swivel side running about 4 inches down from swivel with no damage on or near the hook and weight. I was using a 3/0 ewg with a rage menace. I havnt encountered any rocks while wading and never snagged on a piece of timber or walked on any timber.

[txchaser]

The damage all being in the same spot sounds like it might be passing through the tip top, and that 4 inch mark is where you reel it up to cast. 

I've had a small crack in the tiptop do that to line. I could only see the crack in direct sunlight from the right angle, and it was just barely picked up by a q-tip. 

 

If it isn't that, maybe hit the flouro with a lighter to at least make sure it is real flouro. Mono will catch fire, flouro will just smoke and turn black. Don't breath the smoke though. 

[throttleplate]

23 minutes ago, txchaser said:

The damage all being in the same spot sounds like it might be passing through the tip top, and that 4 inch mark is where you reel it up to cast. 

I've had a small crack in the tiptop do that to line. I could only see the crack in direct sunlight from the right angle, and it was just barely picked up by a q-tip. 

 

If it isn't that, maybe hit the flouro with a lighter to at least make sure it is real flouro. Mono will catch fire, flouro will just smoke and turn black. Don't breath the smoke though. 

thanks for the reply but it is in no way getting past the rod tip with this setup.

[Bluebasser86]

Pads have extremely tough stems. If the line caught a groove in one and started to bite into it, the friction and pressure combined might have caused it. 

 

Why a fluoro leader in heavy pads though? Sounds like the perfect situation for straight braid. 

[Hammer 4]

I would also question why you use a fluro leader in vegetation. Straight braid will work just fine.

[throttleplate]

1 hour ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Pads have extremely tough stems. If the line caught a groove in one and started to bite into it, the friction and pressure combined might have caused it. 

 

Why a fluoro leader in heavy pads though? Sounds like the perfect situation for straight braid. 

i switch out lures, hooks, baits often while chest deep in water and being able to clip on a new snelled bait of choice is fast and easy. This is the container i put into my wading pack containing my snelled baits.

[Tatsu Dave]

I'm usually in a boat facing the weedline from other direction : ) No pickerel nipping at your line? I've never had pads or weeds do that type of fraying to what I use (seaguar).  

[TnRiver46]

I bet it says “superior abrasion resistance” somewhere on the package too haha

[desmobob]

When I started using braid-and-leader, I used InvisX for leader material.  The zebra mussels and hard structure would raise curls out of it like a block plane does to wood.  The AbrazX is quite a bit tougher.

 

I've never tried the dedicated leader materials and had assumed they would be even more durable than AbrazX.

 

Hmm...

[Lead Head]

My best guess... at some point, that part of the leader is overlapping and coming into contact with your snap. Just a guess, but when you are trying to get down into pads (especially considering your wading and not up high) ill bet your setup falls at some pretty odd angles. 

[throttleplate]

4 hours ago, Lead Head said:

My best guess... at some point, that part of the leader is overlapping and coming into contact with your snap. Just a guess, but when you are trying to get down into pads (especially considering your wading and not up high) ill bet your setup falls at some pretty odd angles. 

weird that it is only at the swivel end while the hook and weight end is a direct tie onto hook and remains smooth and clean.

The bullet weight pegged tight to the hook comes through the grass and pads pretty darn good and clean but the swivel and clip do at times catch alot of weeds when i bring the lure out of the water.

I think that by catching the weeds with the clip and dragging them along for the retrieve is a reason for the damage up in that area of the line.

[PhishLI]

On 8/19/2021 at 2:44 AM, throttleplate said:

i switch out lures, hooks, baits often while chest deep in water and being able to clip on a new snelled bait of choice is fast and easy.

And here I thought I was the only knucklehead who does this, for exactly the same reason BTW. I use the same VMC clip, 20lb Red Label Top Knot leader, and haven't noticed fraying. Whatever caused this for you, I doubt it was that particular clip. Due to its design nothing sharp sticks out of it.

 

 

[CrankFate]

I agree, with @Hammer 4 straight braid is the way to go.

 

But if you are using fluoro, try Seaguar Red Label fishing line. It is the best leader material I’ve seen hit the market since forever.

[Boomstick]

On 8/19/2021 at 2:44 AM, throttleplate said:

i switch out lures, hooks, baits often while chest deep in water and bei

I would be inclined to throw straight braid in weeds like that.

[throttleplate]

19 hours ago, PhishLI said:

And here I thought I was the only knucklehead who does this, for exactly the same reason BTW. I use the same VMC clip, 20lb Red Label Top Knot leader, and haven't noticed fraying. Whatever caused this for you, I doubt it was that particular clip. Due to its design nothing sharp sticks out of it.

 

 

i just found my missing snelled lures, awesome, from one knucklehead to another, no offense ?.