Low stretch line? CXX? Line suggestions?

[Jake51823]

Hey all, so I’ve recently been using a lot of low stretch line for my setups. 

 

My reasoning is I love braid that there is no stretch so it pins the fish, however I throw around a lot of rocks and wood. So I got to thinking a low stretch extremely abrasion resistant line has to be the next best thing right? It’s worked wonders for me. 
 

I still have a few questions such as does low stretch help with hook sets for singular hooks such as swim jigs, chatter bait, spinner baits and some jigs? I have been using invizx on my chatter and spinner rod and I really don’t like how much stretch the line has when I’m trying to stick the fish. Any suggestions? Would CXX be great for that too? 
 

 

Topwater that I throw everything including buzz baits on except frogs or lures that need a major hook set on - P-Line CXX. 
 

Chatter bait, spinner, swim jigs and some other jigs - Invizx (hasn’t been working out the best with the singular hook hook sets.) Would CXX work for this as well? Low stretch? Easy hook set with minimal give? 
 

Topwater for frogs - P-Line CXX. I have used this line for frogs for some time now and it’s d**n near perfect. You can’t break this stuff and you don’t need to go higher than 17#. Braid is also very good but I feel as a little stretch helps fight the fish. 
 

Spinning for ned rigs, shaky heads, light t rigs - I don’t know yet. Been trying to figure this out because I really like the slack line sensitivity with fluoro because I don’t reel in my slack a lot after popping a bait. However invizx is way too stretchy for me and I feel you need a good low stretch line to keep them pinned. CXX is too unmanageable to be on spinning so I’m still looking for suggestions here. 
 

What is all your guys thoughts on line with low stretch vs line with high stretch and which is best when and where? Also would love some suggestions for line types I should be using for each setup. 

[ChrisD46]

CXX is available all the way down to #6lb. For spinning I like braid main line + FC or co-poly  leader . You may want to look at Trilene Sensation co-poly and Sufix Advance co-poly main lines  lines for low stretch . 

[Jake51823]

10 minutes ago, ChrisD46 said:

CXX is available all the way down to #6lb. For spinning I like braid main line + FC or co-poly  leader . You may want to look at Trilene Sensation co-poly and Sufix Advance co-poly main lines  lines for low stretch . 

Yeah I’ve been trying to figure out some low stretch fluoro as well 

[T-Billy]

Sufix advance is the lowest stretch mono I've used. Very good abrasion resistance too. Trilene XT isn't far behind it stretch wise and is also very abrasion resistant. When it comes to abrasion all braid isn't equal either. I fish a lot of rock with straight 832 and rarely have to retie more than once or twice a day. Good stuff.

[Wprich]

For spinning I have a few lighter setups that I run straight P-Line CX Premium in 6#.  My main setups I run braid 8#, 10#, and 15# all with sunline sniper in various sizes for a leader.  For low stretch Floro I think you have to go for the abrasion resistant varieties like Sunline Structure and Seaguar Abrazx.

[TnRiver46]

I’ve only used CXX in 6 and 8 lb, and it would cast across the river into the top of a tree. I bought moss green and couldn’t really see it, but it performed well. I would get a different color if I ever bought it again, I think I also recall it cutting through my hand before I could break it with the 8 lb 

[LrgmouthShad]

I ran CXX straight for a little while. Seemed low stretch but I don't really know. My only complaint about the line was that the memory could be bad. Other than that, CXX is just ridiculously strong and abrasion resistant. It is solid stuff. I haven't really found an application for it, though, as my spinnerbait and buzzbait line is confidently Trilene Big Game and other setups run different stuff

15 hours ago, Jake51823 said:

I have been using invizx on my chatter and spinner rod and I really don’t like how much stretch the line has when I’m trying to stick the fish.

That's interesting. I don't think switching to CXX will solve this though. What rod are you using? You absolutely do not need low stretch line to stick fish on single hooks, especially on moving ones

 

[Jake51823]

1 hour ago, LrgmouthShad said:

I ran CXX straight for a little while. Seemed low stretch but I don't really know. My only complaint about the line was that the memory could be bad. Other than that, CXX is just ridiculously strong and abrasion resistant. It is solid stuff. I haven't really found an application for it, though, as my spinnerbait and buzzbait line is confidently Trilene Big Game and other setups run different stuff

That's interesting. I don't think switching to CXX will solve this though. What rod are you using? You absolutely do not need low stretch line to stick fish on single hooks, especially on moving ones

 

I’m using a MH MF falcon HD rod with an Abu Garcia black max. I feel when I try to set the hook the line just stretches too much but I could be very wrong. 

[LrgmouthShad]

1 hour ago, Jake51823 said:

I’m using a MH MF falcon HD rod with an Abu Garcia black max. I feel when I try to set the hook the line just stretches too much but I could be very wrong. 

MH MF is what I use… I have no idea but having a convo about rods on another thread and some people using fast or extra fast on their spinnerbait rods with mono. Idk man, idk. Whatever works

[jimmyjoe]

   The biggest issue on any lure that runs deep is line deflection. If you cast out and let your lure sink, the line sits on top of the water (even fluorocarbon). As soon as you start your retrieve, the point where the line enters the water rapidly moves towards you. Eventually, it'll quit that, and that's the point at which your fishing line forms a straight line to your lure.

   Up until that time, your line is effectively deflected by the resistance of the water. So your hookset is cushioned by line that isn't straight, but which forms an angle. That's a lot more important and has a much greater effect on your hookset than line stretch.

 

   There are four different solutions to the problem, and not one of them is perfect. You can 1) use lower diameter line, or 2) use fluorocarbon that sinks well (not all does) or 3) use low-diameter braided line. The fourth and last one is a little different; YGK makes several braided lines that are actually treated to sink. I've never used them, myself.

 

   All things considered, I think that the line slack (deflection) might be your problem. Check it out visually if you can.       

 

   And ............. GOOD LUCK!  ?            jj