Any suggestions for low memory mono?

[TnRiver46]

Tie it to a tree and stretch the memory out 

[Tatsu Dave]

On 8/9/2021 at 11:38 AM, J Francho said:

Whatever you spool up with, use KVD Line & Lure.

I second that as well, soak a small cloth and pull it thru with just enough pressure to spool it even. After that when you feel it needs a shot or so on the filled spool.

[J Francho]

I just soak the spool with a couple squirts as I fill it. I do the same after every trip. 

[txchaser]

On 8/9/2021 at 11:28 AM, David 7 said:

Was gonna go with Sufix Advance but Dick’s didn’t have it in 12lb which is what I fish with.

For what it is worth, it is really big like Big Game - 14lb is thicker than tatsu 20. 

 

On 8/9/2021 at 9:27 PM, Boomstick said:

 

I'm not sure that Advance is really any better to be completely honest.

If you like low stretch, it is meaningfully better. If you don't, probably the same difference. They put braid fibers in the mix and it works.

[Kyle S]

14 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

Tie it to a tree and stretch the memory out 

Now I know I'm not the only one who does this. 

[David 7]

6 hours ago, txchaser said:

For what it is worth, it is really big like Big Game - 14lb is thicker than tatsu 20. 

Thanks for the heads up. They only had 6, 8 and 17lb at the store when I was there. 

[ATA]

Trilene XL is really limp, I use that for couple years now and it is really good.

[KP Duty]

I was going to recommend the Trilene XL armor coated line, but it appears to be discontinued.  The coating resulted in a little thicker line per lb test, but significantly enhanced abrasion resistance while maintaining great castability.  Another good one bites the dust....

[jimmyjoe]

10 hours ago, txchaser said:

They put braid fibers in the mix and it works.

 

   Where did you see this?                  jj

[Columbia Craw]

Sunline Super Natural for me.

[schplurg]

On 8/10/2021 at 11:31 AM, TnRiver46 said:

Tie it to a tree and stretch the memory out 

 

Or just get snagged like I do  

[bulldog1935]

On 8/9/2021 at 9:52 AM, David 7 said:

Matt from Tactical Bassin swears by this stuff. - Maxima Ultragreen

 

so does Don Iovino.  

[T-Billy]

On 8/11/2021 at 12:59 AM, txchaser said:

If you like low stretch, it is meaningfully better. If you don't, probably the same difference. They put braid fibers in the mix and it works.

 

This was my experience with Advance. It's a little lower stretch than XT, with similar abrasion resistance, and memory. I think Advance is very good mono, but I can buy XT in bulk spools for a lot less $$$. For me XT is still the way to go.

[CrankFate]

On 8/9/2021 at 9:13 AM, David 7 said:

Any suggestions on which one is best for low memory? 

Braid.

[David 7]

1 hour ago, CrankFate said:

Braid.

Not a fan of braid. Don’t like tying knots with it, don’t want to hassle with having to tie it to mono before putting it on my reel, don’t want to cut my fingers on it. It’s just not my thing. 

[ChrisD46]

On 8/9/2021 at 10:52 AM, David 7 said:

Matt from Tactical Bassin swears by this stuff.

* He uses Ultra Green as a leader mainly connected to braid main line . 

[Catt]

@David 7 What you will find with any Monofilament or Fluorocarbon is the longer they sit on your reel not being used the more memory they will have.

 

It is common knowledge that I prefer Berkley Big Game, one reason is for the price I can respool often & not break the bank.

 

If I have to walk around with line conditioner in my pocket just to make the line manageable that probably ain't the right line for me.

 

FYI

15# Tatsu .013

15# Big Game. 015

 

I buy a 900 yd spool at Wally World for under $10.

[txchaser]

On 8/11/2021 at 10:11 AM, jimmyjoe said:

 

   Where did you see this?                  jj

Well I think they did a poor job of explaining... product marketing should get a swift kick in the ass, as the box has a bunch of acronyms on it that are useless.

 

But check this out:

 

The description from their site:

Sufix® Advance™ Monofilament is a combination of HMPE and Hyper Copolymer™ creating superior abrasion resistance, low stretch and sensitivity that has never been seen before.

 

I wondered what the HMPE stuff was so I started looking around.

 

Sufix® 131 Braid represents a major leap forward for anglers who tend to push the limits on their fishing line. This advanced 12-carrier braid is unequalled for its knot strength and holding power, as it's constructed in such a way that it has no weak points. At its heart is a single strand of powerful GORE® Performance Fiber; it's tightly wrapped with 12 precision-braided HMPE fibers, forming a perfectly round line that's exceptionally smooth, quiet, and manageable

 

And the wiki for HMPE talks about dyneema and spectra, as well as saying this outright:

 

UHMWPE are used as composite plates in armor, in particular, personal armor and on occasion as vehicle armor. Civil applications containing UHMWPE fibers are cut-resistant gloves, bow strings, climbing equipment, automotive winching, fishing line, spear lines for spearguns, high-performance sails, suspension lines on sport parachutes and paragliders, rigging in yachting, kites, and kite lines for kites sports.

 

 

So yeah, it's got braid in it.

 

Edit - I'm probably oversimplifying a bit, because there's know way to know if they are actually using spun HMPE which makes the braid, or just the raw HMPE. Point is still the same though, and it explains how they could get a lower stretch result at a given diameter.

 

One of the weird side effects is that this line is picky about knots. SDJ doesn't work worth a hoot on it. two-turn through the eye Uni-knot is bulletproof though. I didn't test the palomar because I don't like the knot, might be just fine.

 

It's about $25 for 1000 yard spools. Frankly I think they would have sold more if they made it more expensive because it gets lumped in with standard mono.

 

[jimmyjoe]

2 hours ago, txchaser said:

So yeah, it's got braid in it.

 

   High-modulus-polyethylene is an extruded or gel-spun fiber that can subsequently be used in forming various items. If you braid it, it becomes braided line. If you don't braid it, it's not braided anything.

   The similarities to nylon are obvious. Nylon can be extruded as monofilament line, of the very fine spinnerets can be braided into braided nylon line. I used to use braided nylon line, but the market isn't there anymore.

   Like nylon, HMPE can be combined with other materials to achieve a desired effect. HMPE can be combined with carbon ("graphite") to create lighter and stronger replacement hip joints.

   That's not braid. That's not even linear extrusion.

 

   You'll notice that the ad has a trademark symbol next to Hyper Copolymer. That doesn't mean that Hyper Copolymer necessarily means anything, it simply is an advertising name they use. They could have used the term "Lightning Aggregate" or "Polyglot Extrusion Fibers", and then trademarked that. It makes no difference. Trademarks are IME signs of high-level BS.

   Not only that, but there is no comment about content percentage of HMPE. They could include .000001% and still advertise that they had included HMPE in the line. I don't know whether they did that, but the ad copy is very "loose", if you know what I mean.

 

   Until we obtain more accurate information, the most accurate statement that can be made is that Sufix Advance Monofilament contains, among other things, the same plastic that is used to make Dyneema and Spectra braided fishing line. How much and in which form, we don't know.

 

   Enjoy the line. I have used 12 lb. test, and I still use 4 lb. test on an ultralight. All advertising aside, I think it's okay line.        jj

[Hammer 4]

I have been having good luck with Sufix Elite, I do spray it with KVD line conditioner, as I do with advanced, and all my mono lines.

[T-Billy]

9 hours ago, txchaser said:

One of the weird side effects is that this line is picky about knots. SDJ doesn't work worth a hoot on it. two-turn through the eye Uni-knot is bulletproof though. I didn't test the palomar because I don't like the knot, might be just fine.

Trilene knot works great as well.

[bigfishnfreak]

Im a pink Ande guy , i fish very clear waters and catch tons of fish with it.

very good knot strength, soft , strong and cheap. but I'm a fresh line guy , new fresh line, i cant tell you how many fish i catch with a wacky senko drop shot hook and weight still in the fish. hooks and line being drug around, stomachs of fish with plastics they cant digest. people need to retie nicked up line so the catch rates go up.

in the high country lakes they ask you to not fish flourcarbon because it does break down as well as mono.

over filled spool is another no no.

 

[dodgeguy]

On 8/12/2021 at 8:18 PM, T-Billy said:

 

This was my experience with Advance. It's a little lower stretch than XT, with similar abrasion resistance, and memory. I think Advance is very good mono, but I can buy XT in bulk spools for a lot less $$$. For me XT is still the way to go.

If you call half as much stretch a little I guess I get it.

[T-Billy]

2 hours ago, dodgeguy said:

If you call half as much stretch a little I guess I get it.

It's not nearly that big of a difference. 

[CrankFate]

On 8/12/2021 at 10:46 PM, David 7 said:

Not a fan of braid. Don’t like tying knots with it, don’t want to hassle with having to tie it to mono before putting it on my reel, don’t want to cut my fingers on it. It’s just not my thing. 

Once you get used to it, there’s no going back.