Luke Barnes Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 Mods move in wrong spot I have been thinking alot lately that just targeting the banks and shallows in ponds im missing out on fish that live in the deep spots and in the middle. What would be best to target those fish? Ive used chatterbaits and t rigs mainly when throwing to the middle. But never really had any success doing that. Quote
Mr. Aquarium Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 How deep are you talking about. Structure , water color. If it’s a shallow weedy pond no more then 10 feet bass will be anywhere. Deep and shallow. But if the ponds 20, 30, 50 then that’s a different ball game Quote
Tatsu Dave Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, Mr. Aquarium said: How deep are you talking about. Structure , water color. If it’s a shallow weedy pond no more then 10 feet bass will be anywhere. Deep and shallow. But if the ponds 20, 30, 50 then that’s a different ball game If it turns out to be deeper and you can reach the deeper water with casts you can let a T-rig lure drop and count it down. Using a weighted hook w/ T-rig it will drop faster of course. I dead stick senkos a lot after catching so many bass with it laying on the bottom. Quote
Mr. Aquarium Posted August 2, 2021 Posted August 2, 2021 I’ve done well on t rigs down deep, tubes, jigs, chatterbaits, soft swimbaits Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 2, 2021 Super User Posted August 2, 2021 Unless the pond has a aeration system (fountain) the deeper water maybe void of bass do to low DO (dissolved oxygen) under a thermocline. Deeper isn’t always better in the summer period. Tom 4 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted August 2, 2021 Super User Posted August 2, 2021 As in larger natural lakes, the outside weed edge (deeper) and inside weed edge (shallower) are important in finding active bass. Deeper than the outside weed edge is far less productive for me. oe 1 Quote
Luke Barnes Posted August 2, 2021 Author Posted August 2, 2021 One pond in particular I'm pretty sure is fairly deep in the middle. Maybe 15 feet or so. Ive ways had the best luck around the weed edges but always wondered if there were big bass lunking out in the middle but didnt know how to effectively target them. Quote
Super User BrianMDTX Posted August 3, 2021 Super User Posted August 3, 2021 23 hours ago, Luke Barnes said: One pond in particular I'm pretty sure is fairly deep in the middle. Maybe 15 feet or so. Ive ways had the best luck around the weed edges but always wondered if there were big bass lunking out in the middle but didnt know how to effectively target them. One of the nicest bass I’ve caught from the middle of the pond I fish was a weightless Zoom Trick TR that I crawled very slow on the bottom. 5.18 lbs. But that was in early April. I haven’t had any success fishing the deeper parts of the pond lately. Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted August 4, 2021 Super User Posted August 4, 2021 I don't generally don't do well in the deepest part of the pond. If there's a dam, I'll fish cover at the edge of it. You can cast to it and retrieve until the bait falls into deeper water. Most bites will come close to the cover. 1 Quote
Super User GetFishorDieTryin Posted August 4, 2021 Super User Posted August 4, 2021 In the winter the deepest spot of the pond usually holds fish especially if there's a branch or something for the fish to relate to. The rest of the time its the cover, shade and forage along the bank that draw the bass in. Quote
Luke Barnes Posted August 4, 2021 Author Posted August 4, 2021 16 hours ago, GetFishorDieTryin said: In the winter the deepest spot of the pond usually holds fish especially if there's a branch or something for the fish to relate to. The rest of the time its the cover, shade and forage along the bank that draw the bass in. What if there is very limited cover on the banks and more bass than cover? I figure if there are little tiny bluegill somewhere that a bass isnt very near by because it would eat them so they dont hang with bigger bass. Could be wrong of course Quote
Super User GetFishorDieTryin Posted August 4, 2021 Super User Posted August 4, 2021 37 minutes ago, Luke Barnes said: What if there is very limited cover on the banks and more bass than cover? I figure if there are little tiny bluegill somewhere that a bass isn't very near by because it would eat them so they dont hang with bigger bass. Could be wrong of course The bass should relate to the best cover they have. In a dishpan pond without trees the only cover the fish may have to relate to is a bare bank. At the very least it offers them some shade if only for a short time every day. I think its the other way around because the bass is the predator chasing or waiting in certain spot ambush food. There are times when bluegill and bass spend a lot of time around each other in smaller water and you can tell by the body language of the bluegill aren't nervous. When a bluegill is all alone and there's a bass then its a different story. Quote
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