Mbirdsley Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 What is the difference between the 2 types of square bills other than the circuit board is more fragile? I’m throwing square bills more and more especially in rivers. I bought some of the circuit boards 8+ years ago. Never used them and gave them away. Recently bought another one due to liking the color and it has been working well. 1 Quote
Ski Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 1. The key to squarebills is how well they deflect and get through structure. This is why they are one of the most popular baits for targeting shallow water structures like laydowns, docks, or rock piles. The reason squarebills work so well around cover is their flat lip doesn’t let the bait gently turn when it hits. Instead, it's very abrupt and forces the bait to turn almost upside down as it goes over the structure. This keeps the hooks away from what it’s hitting and prevents them from getting hung up. The short square bill prevents the bait from diving too deep, most dive less than 8 feet. It is at these shallower depths that have the most areas to get hung-up. This is why shallower baits often have a squaredbill. 2.Circuit board bills are made from the same material as the circuit boards in electronics. The key difference in circuit board bills is they flex. When they strike cover they absorb some of the shock and load up slightly, as a rod would. As it unloads off of the structure it can draw in a reaction bite. 2 Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted August 1, 2021 Super User Posted August 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Ski said: 1. The key to squarebills is how well they deflect and get through structure. This is why they are one of the most popular baits for targeting shallow water structures like laydowns, docks, or rock piles. The reason squarebills work so well around cover is their flat lip doesn’t let the bait gently turn when it hits. Instead, it's very abrupt and forces the bait to turn almost upside down as it goes over the structure. This keeps the hooks away from what it’s hitting and prevents them from getting hung up. The short square bill prevents the bait from diving too deep, most dive less than 8 feet. It is at these shallower depths that have the most areas to get hung-up. This is why shallower baits often have a squaredbill. 2.Circuit board bills are made from the same material as the circuit boards in electronics. The key difference in circuit board bills is they flex. When they strike cover they absorb some of the shock and load up slightly, as a rod would. As it unloads off of the structure it can draw in a reaction bite. So a circuit board lip is just better? Lol. Been a while since I’ve tossed crankbaits but curious Quote
HaydenS Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 The one circuit board squarebill I have, storm arashi square, got thrown all day in a shallow river, grinding sharp rocks and didn't break at all. They seem A LOT stronger than regular lips. Quote
Super User WRB Posted August 1, 2021 Super User Posted August 1, 2021 PCB or circuit board material is usually glass reenforced epoxy FR-4 and very strong. Most diving crank baits use polycarbonate (Lexan) molded bills, also a strong clear material. You don’t usually find PC board crankbait bills on production lure, usually custom made. Tom Quote
HaydenS Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 These are all circuit board lips available on TackleWarehouse. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Shallow_Diving_Circuit_Board_Bill_Crankbaits/catpage-SHALLOWCIR.html 1 Quote
GetFishorDieTryin Posted August 1, 2021 Posted August 1, 2021 I feel like I get more feedback from a CB bill compared to standard plastic. Quote
Mbirdsley Posted August 2, 2021 Author Posted August 2, 2021 10 hours ago, HaydenS said: The one circuit board squarebill I have, storm arashi square, got thrown all day in a shallow river, grinding sharp rocks and didn't break at all. They seem A LOT stronger than regular lips. I had some of those storms too. Those were part of what I gave away. ive broken a couple of the circuit board ones before back in the day but, that’s only because it took a direct hit on rock while casting it a 100000mph. Not the cranks fault I guess I should pick some more up. Anything spro has been killer this year for me. They have been worth the extra little bit of money. Plus they come with decent gammy hooks and I don’t swap them out until they get damaged 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted August 2, 2021 Super User Posted August 2, 2021 I've broken polycarbonate/clear plastic bills. I've never broken a circuit board bill. Maybe it was just my luck, I don't know. jj 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted August 2, 2021 Global Moderator Posted August 2, 2021 I've never broken a circuit board crankbait lip. I've broken who knows how many standard crankbait bills. 2 Quote
Super User Spankey Posted August 2, 2021 Super User Posted August 2, 2021 Can’t tell you much on a squarebill cb lip but the rounded OG Slim lips have held up fine on rock so far for me so far. Either could break. So don’t the clear lexan/plastics one. Fish on and try to not overthink it. It will be fine. 1 Quote
Super User FishTank Posted August 2, 2021 Super User Posted August 2, 2021 I tend to find the computer board lips hold up pretty well. Do they catch more fish? > I don't see much of a difference there. 2 Quote
GReb Posted August 3, 2021 Posted August 3, 2021 I’m not sure but the Spro Lil John catches more fish than any other square bill in my box. But that could just be specific to my lake. I did break the lip on one by slamming into a bridge piling. But that’s on me. 1 Quote
Mbirdsley Posted August 15, 2021 Author Posted August 15, 2021 On 8/2/2021 at 9:25 PM, GReb said: I’m not sure but the Spro Lil John catches more fish than any other square bill in my box. But that could just be specific to my lake. I did break the lip on one by slamming into a bridge piling. But that’s on me. Like I said anything spro has been on fire this year. Including the little John’s Quote
schplurg Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/1/2021 at 10:08 AM, HaydenS said: These are all circuit board lips available on TackleWarehouse. https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Shallow_Diving_Circuit_Board_Bill_Crankbaits/catpage-SHALLOWCIR.html Now I under$tand why I've never $een one. 1 Quote
HaydenS Posted August 16, 2021 Posted August 16, 2021 6 hours ago, schplurg said: Now I under$tand why I've never $een one. Yeah ? Quote
Super User Columbia Craw Posted August 17, 2021 Super User Posted August 17, 2021 The Bill Lewis model has a circuit board lip and it’s a nice bait. Spro Little John is my favorite with that material lip. Quote
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