Lure made to twist line?

[fin]

Spinning reels always twist line in the same direction (let's say clockwise, for the sake of argument), so shouldn't it be possible to untwist line by putting on a lure or device that twists the line counter-clockwise for a few minutes? Has anyone ever marketed such a thing? It seems like something pretty simple to do. You could put a line tie at either end, so you could choose which direction you wanted it to twist.

[Ratherbfishing]

I think it would be difficult to gauge how long to spin the line in the opposite direction.  Using a good ball bearing swivel is a lot cheaper and easier.  But barring that, I usually just remove the lure and trail about 20 yards of line behind the boat and allow the line to unravel naturally.

[Raul]

Lure made to twist line .....easy peasy, it's called in-line spinner ! 

literally the only lure where I tie to a snap-swivel combination

 

as for spinning reels twisting the line ..... gotta live with it and every now and then respool while dragging the line behind the boat.

[roadwarrior]

Just now, Raul said:

Lure made to twist line .....easy peasy, it's called in-line spinner ! 

literally the only lure where I tie to a snap-swivel combination

 

as for spinning reels twisting the line ..... gotta live with it and every now and then respool while dragging the line behind the boat.

 

Where you been, man?

Good to see your post!

 

[Raul]

12 minutes ago, roadwarrior said:

 

Where you been, man?

Good to see your post!

 

 

Whassup RW ?!?

 

long story that I will tell you another day

 

haven't gone fishing in a while, nor purchased any tackle ( no kidding ! not even hook ), hell, my wife told me that I should sell my boat because it's taking "too much room" and I'm not using it .... can you believe it ? what a nerve ! over my dead body that boat is coming out of the house.

 

 

[fin]

I don't have a boat, so that's not an option.

 

I have a way to untwist line, but it's time-consuming. It's kind of hard to explain too. It works well though.

 

This seemed like an easy solution, so I figured there's probably a reason it wouldn't work.

[MN Fisher]

My biggest questions on using a different lure to untwist line are:

1: Which way is it twisted? How do you know if it's a right-hand or left-hand twist?

2: How do you know when it's untwisted? Do you know how many turns have been put in?

 

Playing out the line without weight on the end then reeling it back onto the spool under finger tension is the only way I know of to get the twists out the correct direction and amount.

[georgeyew]

I have a weight that is made to untwist lines. It has molded grooves to make it spin in the opposite direction when you retrieve it back. I forgot the name. Let me find a link for you.

 

Here it is:

 

https://gardnertackle.co.uk/product/spin-doctor/

Edited July 31, 2021 by georgeyew

[fin]

11 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

My biggest questions on using a different lure to untwist line are:

1: Which way is it twisted? How do you know if it's a right-hand or left-hand twist?

My understanding is line always twists in the same direction. According to the link that @georgeyew provided, that direction is clockwise.

 

11 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

2: How do you know when it's untwisted? Do you know how many turns have been put in?

I'm using braid, and when it gets twisted enough, you can actually see it. When I start getting wind knots, it's obviously twisted. Sometimes the line will twist up when slack. So when it doesn't do those things, it's untwisted.

 

I guess there is a danger in that you could go too far counter-twisting, but it's probably something you would learn eventually.

 

12 hours ago, Raul said:

Lure made to twist line .....easy peasy, it's called in-line spinner !

But they spin in either direction, so I don't think that would work.

 

13 hours ago, Ratherbfishing said:

Using a good ball bearing swivel is a lot cheaper and easier. 

Not really a good option when using soft baits.

[J Francho]

Just pay out the line in the lawn after fishing, and reel it in under pressure. No need for some device. 

[fin]

52 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Just pay out the line in the lawn after fishing, and reel it in under pressure. No need for some device. 

That makes no sense to me. Not saying you're wrong, but I don't see the difference between that and say, casting out a really heavy lure and retrieving it, like a big spinnerbait. The same goes for holding the line between your fingers while reeling in. It helps, but it's not going to undo the twist. At least in my mind anyway. I could be wrong, because I've never tried it. And I've never tried it because it doesn't make sense to me.

[MN Fisher]

3 minutes ago, fin said:

That makes no sense to me. Not saying you're wrong, but I don't see the difference between that and say, casting out a really heavy lure and retrieving it, like a big spinnerbait. The same goes for holding the line between your fingers while reeling in. It helps, but it's not going to undo the twist. At least in my mind anyway. I could be wrong, because I've never tried it. And I've never tried it because it doesn't make sense to me.

With a weight on the end, it won't 'flip about' to untwist, it'll be locked in orientation...that's why you use bare line.

 

You can test this in a short way...lay out 15'-20' of line, pinch it near the first guide and reel it in while watching the end...it'll flip about as the twists come out.

 

I've been using this method of untwisting line on spinning reels for 50+ years - it works.

[scaleface]

4 minutes ago, fin said:

. Not saying you're wrong, but I don't see the difference between that and say, casting out a really heavy lure and retrieving it, like a big spinnerbait

Lay the line out in the grass with nothing tied to it then slowly reel it in . It removes twist . I do it every time I respool a spinning reel  Seems like I can never spool it on without getting some line twist .

[fin]

When he said "under pressure", I assumed he meant like with the line tied to something while reeling in.

 

So you guys are saying you've done this successfully with braid?

[MN Fisher]

2 minutes ago, fin said:

When he said "under pressure", I assumed he meant like with the line tied to something while reeling in.

 

So you guys are saying you've done this successfully with braid?

10# braid on my President 25, 20# braid on my Avocet RZT-3000...yep.

 

You don't need to pinch it hard - just firmly inside a cloth to prevent burning your fingertips.

[A-Jay]

54 minutes ago, fin said:

That makes no sense to me. Not saying you're wrong, but I don't see the difference between that and say, casting out a really heavy lure and retrieving it, like a big spinnerbait. The same goes for holding the line between your fingers while reeling in. It helps, but it's not going to undo the twist. At least in my mind anyway. I could be wrong, because I've never tried it. And I've never tried it because it doesn't make sense to me.

Paying the line out with nothing on the end, either behind a boat or across the lawn, and then reeling it back in, Will remove line twist.

The more you let out, the better. 

I do it all the time.

Just try it.

All These guys are not going to steer you wrong.

A-Jay

[J Francho]

Sometimes, you have to simply try something on good faith instead debating it. 

[fin]

1 hour ago, J Francho said:

Sometimes, you have to simply try something on good faith instead debating it. 

 

I wasn't debating it, just getting clarification and saying I was doubtful. I will definitely give it a try. I've read the advice here many times before, and I always assumed it was for mono and fluoro, and that being dragged in the water was part of it.

 

I'm going to have to wait for my line to get twisted again though. I had just finished untwisting it using my method before I made this post. That's what gave me the incentive ?

[WRB]

Do as John suggested. You can run the line between a folded wet Terry cloth towel to add the right amount of tension as you re wind the line back on the spool.

Tom

 

[J Francho]

I actually think it works better for braid in the grass.