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So here is my current routine in regards to the lures I’m using, let me know what you think or if I could benefit from changing it up


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I take two setups with me on the creeks/rivers I float in my kayak, a 6’6” medium st croix premier and a 6’ medium light premier, both spinning. On the 6’6” I mostly beat the bank with the whopper plopper 90 to cover water on the slow moving stretches between current. When I get to a current break I pick it apart with a soft paddle tail swim bait on an 1/8 oz jig at varying depths and a ZMan TRD craw Ned. 
 

So far it’s been pretty productive, I’m catching way more fish than I was with live bait. I guess I’m just wondering if I am potentially missing any fish or could benefit from adding anything into my routine? Thanks!

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Rage Tail Menace, T-rigged with a 3/0 Offset Worm Hook and a 3/16 or 1/4 oz bullet weight.

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58 minutes ago, roadwarrior said:

Rage Tail Menace, T-rigged with a 3/0 Offset Worm Hook and a 3/16 or 1/4 oz bullet weight.

What exactly is the advantage of the bullet weight, falls faster?

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2 minutes ago, Ohioguy25 said:

What exactly is the advantage of the bullet weight, falls faster?

Yes it will allow you to fish deeper in the water column. And it will be weedless.

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#1 It looks cool! 

Also, it helps the lure come through grass better.

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For the Menace or other soft plastic I would go with a 3/16th or 1/4 ounce slider spider head (Texas Rig all in one Jig). You could go with the pro version, but the lighter wire hook might be benificial if you snag up in heavy current. That way you can use a snap and not have to retie to switch lures in the kayak making things a little easier. I am a big believer in duo loc snaps with the slider heads and they don't seem to cost me hits, in fact in some very specific cases I get more hits.

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You have so many options that it’s crazy. Endless. Hard baits, soft baits. I don’t want to say if it looks like a Smallie will eat it, it will eat it. But, if it looks like a Smallie will eat it, it will eat it. 
 

Keep playing with some natural patterns and mix in some chartreuse and firetiger. Play with some tubes and grubs. 

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As long as you can cover the top, middle and bottom of the water column, I think you're good. For river and stream floats I bring 3 rods with a (1) topwater, a (2) a swimbait/stickbait/crankbait to swim or jerk, and (3)  tube/grub/creature/worm to hop or drag on the bottom.  And then I have with me a few backups and alternates to sub in for each rod.

 

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3 hours ago, Ohioguy25 said:

adding anything into my routine

You just described my #1 and #2 rods and techniques for Middle TN smallie floats.  
My rod #3 is a MH fast with a super fluke, which seems to get better as fall approaches.  
I dont get too carried away with high end equipment in the kayak-seen too many guys donate expensive gear to the river.

Be safe out there!

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7 hours ago, MIbassyaker said:

As long as you can cover the top, middle and bottom of the water column, I think you're good. For river and stream floats I bring 3 rods with a (1) topwater, a (2) a swimbait/stickbait/crankbait to swim or jerk, and (3)  tube/grub/creature/worm to hop or drag on the bottom.  And then I have with me a few backups and alternates to sub in for each rod.

 

Yeah I think that’s it right there, need a third rod for working the bottom rather than swapping the swims and the Ned. I knew I’d get some valuable insight in this thread! 

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Stickbaits! I use a lot of different lures but none will put fish in the boat as good as a simple weightless and soft stickbait. I use a flipping hook with 28 degree eyelet EWG and black color, you can get mustad hooks from TW in 50 pac's for under $20. Use owner small screwlocs also TW and available. Screw a stickbait on and put the hook thru it so it hangs straight. Take the hook running down the lures back and just catch it under the lures skin and fish. Two suggestions for lures Ocho eight sided w/coffee scent or GY senkos in 5". Colors are up to you but Tequila sunrise-junebug-watermelon w/gold or orange flakes or a crawfish color. The other night my son and I had a competition with a plopper against a ocho, most of the big fish came on the stick. More of the small fish came on the stick as well. Put an important tool in the tackle box, fished near surface or counted down a ways they work.

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Occasionally mix in a small squarebill crank in lieu of the WP.  It may get bites from aggressive fish that are not quite aggressive enough to blast a top water.  You may catch other species, too, which is always fun to me.

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the one thing I literally can't shut up about right now (seriously half my comments on here) is a skirtless zman chatterbait micro with a finesse TRD on it rigged like a ned rig; as straight as possible. I like this setup because it is compact, yet flashy and super easy to fish if you can cast into structure or cover. I fish it like a noisey and flashy ned rig, though a slow straight retrieve out from around structure works just as well. I just did this out of desperation one day and it's quickly become my favorite and most successful setup for largemouth. Outfishes my ned rigs with much less work in cloudier waters. In very clear water the ned is preferable. 

As far as colors go...anything red. I like to paint my heads a flashy red glitter and use hot craw and california craw TRDs.

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In the little creeks you fish, an 1/8 oz or 1/16 oz sinker maybe better. Or possibly even weightless 

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20 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

In the little creeks you fish, an 1/8 oz or 1/16 oz sinker maybe better. Or possibly even weightless 

I’ve actually branched out and now fish a medium sized river (Great Miami) as well. Much bigger fish! 

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