Why Curado 150 MGL?

[waymont]

I'm confused where it fits in the Shimano lineup.

70 MGL 105 yds of 10lb line and 4 break pins

150 MGL 120 yds pf 10lb line and 6 break pins

 

weight is very close, and it seems the size is similar too.

Any other differences I'm not seeing?

 

[jimmyjoe]

   I suspect that the difference might not be visible. I suspect that the 150-size will be much more capable of handling different braids.

   Of course, my suspicions may be wrong.                       jj

[waymont]

32 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said:

   I suspect that the difference might not be visible. I suspect that the 150-size will be much more capable of handling different braids.

   Of course, my suspicions may be wrong.                       jj

What do you mean?

[ironbjorn]

It fits in right in the middle of the CEO's billfold

[jimmyjoe]

41 minutes ago, waymont said:

What do you mean?

 

The "sweet spot" for handling braided line changes on centrifugally-controlled reels as the size of the spool changes. On small spools (like my Curado 70) the reel may "like" relatively few braids, and only a narrow range of diameters, for maximum distance and consistency. A larger-capacity spool offers a greater variety of braids to fit into or approach the "sweet spot".

 

   The only braided line I found (I didn't test a great number) that worked well on my Curado 70 was 20 lb. test (12 mil diameter) Berkely Fireline Ultra 8. Other (larger) centrifugal reels were more forgiving. 

   If the company has changed the engineering behind their braking system, then what I said may not be germane. That's why I said my suspicions may be wrong.

 

   Daiwa reels with Magforce-Z  behave differently. I don't have a real good handle on their plus and minus points yet.    jj

[Boomstick]

1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said:

   I suspect that the difference might not be visible. I suspect that the 150-size will be much more capable of handling different braids.

   Of course, my suspicions may be wrong.                       jj

I just got a SLX MGL 150 in today. I did not compare it to the SLX MGL 70 with no line on it (as that has line on it) but I believe the spool is the same width, just deeper on the 150. So basically if you use line above .33mm in diameter, the 150 is the size that you will want.

[waymont]

43 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said:

 

The "sweet spot" for handling braided line changes on centrifugally-controlled reels as the size of the spool changes. On small spools (like my Curado 70) the reel may "like" relatively few braids, and only a narrow range of diameters, for maximum distance and consistency. A larger-capacity spool offers a greater variety of braids to fit into or approach the "sweet spot".

 

   The only braided line I found (I didn't test a great number) that worked well on my Curado 70 was 20 lb. test (12 mil diameter) Berkely Fireline Ultra 8. Other (larger) centrifugal reels were more forgiving. 

   If the company has changed the engineering behind their braking system, then what I said may not be germane. That's why I said my suspicions may be wrong.

 

   Daiwa reels with Magforce-Z  behave differently. I don't have a real good handle on their plus and minus points yet.    jj

I see what you mean. It still seems weird to make a reel so similar to another.

If the main reason the company made the reel is to go up a line size or two, it seems a bit redundant to me. I'm sure people will get it, and enjoy it.

[JustJames]

To complete in the market, Shimano gotta add new line of reels. Why? Humans are sucker of buying new things, even though the differences are not much. For example, mr. bass fishing SoCal, would use his 70 for light line 10lb FC. Use 200 size for medium to heavy topwater/swimbait with 20lb FC. Now he is reading internet, stumped upon new 150 size, told himself why not get a reel for medium/heavy bottom contact with 15lb FC and this new Curado 150 MGL fit the bill just right. Now he looks back and he has SLX 150 already but still convinced himself, the new reel with Curado badge should be better than his old cheaper SLX and might make him a better fisherman so why not? It is a marketing tactic but always works. Different folks different strokes, they will try to find whatever excuse to buy new toys.
 

Look at Daiwa Tatula, how many models utilize the name Tatula and same frame?

 

Added*** I heard about this new Curado 150 MGL a few days back, watched a couple of videos about it, there are already three threads about this reel in this forum alone. Aren’t we a sucker? ????

[The Bassman]

Big boys always want more toys.

[CrankFate]

I would think that people might need more brakes (or think they need more brakes) when dealing with heavier baits. That could be why they make these from a marketing standpoint, on paper. But, IMO, the main issue with throwing heavier and lighter baits is usually the rod, not the reel. 

[Boomstick]

4 hours ago, CrankFate said:

I would think that people might need more brakes (or think they need more brakes) when dealing with heavier baits.

I would probably be using 4 brakes in and adjusting the dial accordingly with either reel most of the time anyway.

[Blaine Donders]

I like the idea of a higher quality Shimano reel in this space. The 200K is to clunky, and the 70 is too small. And all are nicer than an SLX.
 

May unload a Chronarch MGL for one.

[waymont]

49 minutes ago, Blaine Donders said:

I like the idea of a higher quality Shimano reel in this space. The 200K is to clunky, and the 70 is too small. And all are nicer than an SLX.
 

May unload a Chronarch MGL for one.

I haven’t held one, but it’s slightly lighter than the 70 MGL. Figured it would be the same size. Don’t know for sure.

[GetFishorDieTryin]

I guess its kind more of a do it all reel.  Not sure what the handle length on the 70 is but the 150 is probably 100mm which is what I would prefer most of the time.  The cheapest USDM 150MGL Shimano offers is the Chronarch and thats almost $100 more, so I don't think its a redundant reel for its price point. 

[Cody28]

Anyone have an idea why the 70 size is $40 more than the 150 size? Wouldn’t the breaks be “worse” with less pins? 

[PhishLI]

22 minutes ago, Cody28 said:

Anyone have an idea why the 70 size is $40 more than the 150 size? Wouldn’t the breaks be “worse” with less pins? 

More than likely because they've analyzed that they'll sell far more standard size reels at the $200 price point. Competition is fierce. Probably little more than that.

[jigheadworm]

70 MGL has 2 extra bearings in the handle.

After using the 150mgl a few times i don't see a reason for the 70mgl to exist 150mgl it's lighter almost as compact and throws better with all lure weights in my opinion.

[zpelletier]

19 hours ago, PhishLI said:

More than likely because they've analyzed that they'll sell far more standard size reels at the $200 price point. Competition is fierce. Probably little more than that.

Because a Tatula SV is $200 and the 150 is a direct competitor. I think if you have a 70 there’s no reason to run out and buy a 150. I got a 150 because if I’m only gonna have one reel I think it’s a good all around reel.