Daiwa Spinning Reel question

[Chris Cervino]

Hello all.  Something of a noob here so sorry for what is probably a dumb question.  Just picked up an Ugly Stik and the Daiwa Regal LT Spinning Reel.  I put 10lb test on the reel easily but could not figure out why after I tightened the line and the arm was down the reel would slip backwards and let line out.  I finally figured out there's a switch of some sort on the front of the reel to "lock" it so it does not loosen once tightened (unless the arm us up).  My question is, when would you ever want the arm down but the switch unlocked to let line out?  Didn't understand the purpose of this given I have never had a reel that had a switch.

[gunsinger]

I unlock the reel to spin it backwards when the bail is not in the right position to catch the line with my finger.  Other than that, I know of no good reason to unlock the reel.  But, TBH, I don't fish spinning reels much.

[MN Fisher]

There's this thing called 'back-reeling' that some people do. They don't use the drag, they use the ability to reel backwards, letting line out at their desired rate, to fight the fish.

[Chris Cervino]

Thanks folks for not bashing the noob!!!

[MN Fisher]

11 minutes ago, Chris Cervino said:

Thanks folks for not bashing the noob!!!

Dunno what other forums you've been on - but Glenn and the mods take a dim view of 'bashing' here.

[roadwarrior]

13 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

...but Glenn and the mods take a dim view of 'bashing' here.

 

[MN Fisher]

3 minutes ago, roadwarrior said:

 

@Chris Cervino - as demonstrated here, you'll find that roadwarrior is a lover of GIFS...he plants them everywhere.

 

Kent...not much to say? (snicker)

[roadwarrior]

[gunsinger]

 

1 hour ago, Chris Cervino said:

Thanks folks for not bashing the noob!!!

I always say, "The only stupid question is the one you don't ask."  I mean, if you knew the answer, you wouldn't have to ask right?  I've not been on this forum all that long but, I have found the members her to be very giving of there knowledge and have gotten answers to all sorts of questions.  I would encourage you to check out the videos section of the forum.  There's not much about fishing that hasn't been covered.  They do amazing work.  And you cannot beat the cost.

[MN Fisher]

13 minutes ago, gunsinger said:

I would encourage you to check out the videos section of the forum.  There's not much about fishing that hasn't been covered.  They do amazing work.  And you cannot beat the cost.

Not only that, but the articles section too - lots of good write-ups by experienced people including Pros.

[BrianMDTX]

1 hour ago, gunsinger said:

I unlock the reel to spin it backwards when the bail is not in the right position to catch the line with my finger.  Other than that, I know of no good reason to unlock the reel.  But, TBH, I don't fish spinning reels much.

This, backreeling (as previously mentioned), and I use it frequently to let line out when A- I’ve reeled the bait in too far to the tip; and B- to better position the rod in my small inflatable when boating a bass. 

[Columbia Craw]

You picked a good reel Chris.  Back reeling is no longer used much as the drag systems on spinning reels have improved tremendously. Some manufactures are removing the feature altogether.

[walleyecrazy]

Just to clarify, the switch that allows back reeling is on the bottom of the reel. Is this the switch your are speaking about? If not than you are referring to the drag which would be on the very front of the spool. This is adjustable from completely locked to very light, and controls how much force it takes before the drag starts letting line out. This is used to keep your line from breaking in certain situations. 

[QED]

33 minutes ago, Columbia Craw said:

You picked a good reel Chris.  Back reeling is no longer used much as the drag systems on spinning reels have improved tremendously. Some manufactures are removing the feature altogether.

 

Shimano Stella and Vanford (all but the 500F) lines do not include the reverse/anti-reverse switch.

[MN Fisher]

Just now, QED said:

 

Shimano Stella and Vanford (all but the 500F) lines do not include the reverse/anti-reverse switch.

Pflueger's removed the switch from the Trion - just a matter of time before the rest of their models do that.

[DitchPanda]

Of god not another backreeling thread. Lets not do this again.

[throttleplate]

2 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Pflueger's removed the switch from the Trion - just a matter of time before the rest of their models do that.

if they drop the switch they need to drop the price. Theres alot of pieces that make up that reverse mechanism. I just put my supreme back together an hour ago and was surprised how many parts make up the whole reverse assy. I will never buy a reel without one.

[MN Fisher]

3 minutes ago, throttleplate said:

if they drop the switch they need to drop the price. Theres alot of pieces that make up that reverse mechanism. I just put my supreme back together an hour ago and was surprised how many parts make up the whole reverse assy. I will never buy a reel without one.

I'm kind of scared that Pflueger is going to go away.

 

Dunno if you've looked, but the only BC they have left is the President XT - Trion, President, both Supremes and both Patriarchs are no more.

 

Wondering when the hammer is going to fall on the spinning line-up..and it makes me sad. I've been a Pflueger fan-boy since the 640 I bought back in the 70s.

15 minutes ago, throttleplate said:

if they drop the switch they need to drop the price.

And I spoke too soon - new models of the Supreme and Supreme XT spinning reels are out...guess what...they removed the switch.

If you want Supreme spinners with the switch, buy the previous models before they sell out.

[throttleplate]

3 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

I'm kind of scared that Pflueger is going to go away.

 

Dunno if you've looked, but the only BC they have left is the President XT - Trion, President, both Supremes and both Patriarchs are no more.

 

Wondering when the hammer is going to fall on the spinning line-up..and it makes me sad. I've been a Pflueger fan-boy since the 640 I bought back in the 70s.

And I spoke too soon - new models of the Supreme and Supreme XT spinning reels are out...guess what...they removed the switch.

If you want Supreme spinners with the switch, buy the previous models before they sell out.

well then when it comes time to buy a new reel i am going to buy a daiwa or a shimano model with the switch and if they eliminate it then i will buy a brand that still has a switch even if i have to pay more.

[throttleplate]

16 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

new models of the Supreme and Supreme XT spinning reels are out...guess what...they removed the switch.

and they lowered the gear ratio from 6.2 to 1 down to 5.2 to 1

[MN Fisher]

17 minutes ago, throttleplate said:

and they lowered the gear ratio from 6.2 to 1 down to 5.2 to 1

That doesn't bug me - I always thought the IPT on the Supreme was a bit high anyway...main reason I went with the Pres and Pres-XT.

[ironbjorn]

36 minutes ago, throttleplate said:

and they lowered the gear ratio from 6.2 to 1 down to 5.2 to 1

Lol how stupid

[T-Billy]

I bought a couple Penn's this spring. Spinfisher VI and a Battle III. Sealed reels so anti reverse switch isn't an option. Was weird at first, but once I got used to just pulling a little line out when I need it, it's not an issue for me.  Now I find myself doing the same when using my reels with a switch.

Loving these reels so far. Butter smooth. My older reels will get replaced with Penn's as they wear out.

Chris that Regal should serve you well. I have several, and they just keep on ticking year after year. Tough reel to beat at it's price point IMO.

 

 

[JustJames]

Back to anti reverse switch, since you already figured it out that switch is for letting the line out manually. The benefit to me is none whatsoever. I use spinning reel for 20-30 plus years but never ever once use the switch for fishing purposes. You won’t miss a thing along with other 80-90% of spinning users. 

I tried to use the switch when vertical jigging searching for crappie but open the bail arm and let the line out is faster and more convenient. 

[throttleplate]

3 hours ago, Bass_Fishing_Socal said:

Back to anti reverse switch, since you already figured it out that switch is for letting the line out manually. The benefit to me is none whatsoever. I use spinning reel for 20-30 plus years but never ever once use the switch for fishing purposes. You won’t miss a thing along with other 80-90% of spinning users. 

I tried to use the switch when vertical jigging searching for crappie but open the bail arm and let the line out is faster and more convenient. 

 

the reason i like it and use it alot is when wader fishing.

Wading amongst downed trees, submerged trees, wading up to my chest, constanty on the move balancing myself so i dont trip or fall into a hole.

Doing all this i easilly lose track of my line-lure casting and reeling in a few hundred times.

 

This leads me to reeling in the clip, yes i use clips, into the rod tip. I added a bobber stop and a plastic bead above the clip so as to not have clip hit the eye. Cant open a bail when bead is hard up against the rod eye, unless you force it.

 

Also when wading if i get snagged its better for me to flip the switch and let the line out with the spool turning that way i can better controll the tension on the line so it dont get caught up in stumps or whatever else is around as i wade to take different angles to release snag.

 

Anyway thats how i fish and thats what works for me and i have fished with reels with no AR and just really dislike not having it.

 

What i think pflueger did by eliminating it is just a money grab, lets give the customer less options on our reels but still charge the same or raise the price.

 

I am a retired mechanic, when i worked for john deere i went to many john deere tech classes for training on new equipment.

 

On one of the engines for a riding lawnmower model which was their biggest sellng rider they eliminated the exhaust valve rotator. This rotator allowed the valve to rotate in its seat to keep the valve clean from carbon deposits.

The instructor told us this rotator cost .25 cents per and it saved them many thousands of dollars overall.

And for any john deere fans from the mid 90,s they started painting the mower decks flat black instead of john deere yellow because yellow was very expensive and flat black was the cheapest.

 

This was all done on the same model mower, their best seller, all in the name of saving money for the company and giving the customer less of an engine and a less eye appealing mower to the customer.

 

And i wont even mention how they cheapened up their snowblowers by going to a lesser guage steel, sigh.