Jeffrey Walker Posted July 25, 2021 Author Posted July 25, 2021 I really have not had luck with spinner baits chatter - which i feel like i have give a fair shake, crank baits or even buzzbaits for that matter. Probably maybe because ponds are shallow and weedy snd so i have to stay on top or the bottom. today i tried the whopper plopped snd caught 2 nice ones. Definitely in my preferred list now just curious why would anyone throw a buzz bait if the whopper plopper is basically the same thing but floats? Quote
ironbjorn Posted July 25, 2021 Posted July 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jeffrey Walker said: I really have not had luck with spinner baits chatter - which i feel like i have give a fair shake, crank baits or even buzzbaits for that matter. Probably maybe because ponds are shallow and weedy snd so i have to stay on top or the bottom. today i tried the whopper plopped snd caught 2 nice ones. Definitely in my preferred list now just curious why would anyone throw a buzz bait if the whopper plopper is basically the same thing but floats? One reason would be because you can't throw a WP over vegetation without the trebles snagging. Quote
Jeffrey Walker Posted July 25, 2021 Author Posted July 25, 2021 wouldn’t a buzz bait get snagged? Quote
gunsinger Posted July 25, 2021 Posted July 25, 2021 6 hours ago, A-Jay said: Just one but there's decent storage space available if I want it . . . Including under the bench seating (not shown) ? A-Jay Very nice. 1 Quote
Super User LrgmouthShad Posted July 25, 2021 Super User Posted July 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, Jeffrey Walker said: I really have not had luck with spinner baits As far as the design of lures or the lure itself goes, this is nowhere more important than with spinnerbaits. The swivel, blades, head design, wire length, wire diameter all have effects. Most spinnerbaits are better fished with a slow reel. And they perform best around thick cover, at least for me. Something has to break up the profile of a spinnerbait for it to be effective, most of the time. That can be water clarity, wind, cover, clouds, etc. spinnerbaits are just really darn specific. I like single bladed ones. Quote
HaydenS Posted July 25, 2021 Posted July 25, 2021 50 minutes ago, Jeffrey Walker said: wouldn’t a buzz bait get snagged? You can reel a buzzbait over grass and not pick up any and then try to reel a whopper plopper through it, and you come back with 10 pounds of grass. The buzzbaits hook faces up, and the WP's hooks face down, and there are 6 points to catch grass on a WP. You've got to worry more about getting grass in your blade. 1 Quote
txchaser Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Jeffrey Walker said: just curious why would anyone throw a buzz bait if the whopper plopper is basically the same thing but floats? Consistently bigger fish from a buzzbait. Quote
RenzokukenFisher Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 Day in and day out it has to be a jig! Catches bigger-than-average fish and it can be fished in almost limitless ways. Bottom hop it, swim it, stroke it, flip it, pitch it, punch it, finnesee it, etc. A jig also seems to be a lure you can really catch fish on at anytime since you can adjust its size, trailer, and color to the conditions present. Not only that but with a sharp hook and a good hookset, seldom a fish will come off. Honorable mentions: weightless fluke, spinnerbait, chatterbait, t-rig plastic. Quote
thediscochef Posted July 26, 2021 Posted July 26, 2021 Depending on conditions, Finesse jig Wacky head jig Ned rig skirtless 1/8 chatter using a finesse TRD 1/4 willowvibe head with finesse TRD Sometimes a pad crasher junior And the classic Rapala lipless rat-l-traps, usually the tiny ones. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted July 26, 2021 Super User Posted July 26, 2021 My faves don't necessarily get the most bites, with the exception of my spinnerbaits, but I love throwing them, and those are my Big swimbaits, lunker punker, glide and wake baits, and big worms. Yeah, they are more work, but the big gals like em. And I get a good workout..lol 1 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted July 26, 2021 Super User Posted July 26, 2021 If bank fishing from pond my most productive lures have been , in no particular order Beetle spins Texas rigs weightless worms buzzbaits spinnerbaits . I donrt know why but large Beetle Spins and pond bass go together . 2 Quote
Super User the reel ess Posted July 26, 2021 Super User Posted July 26, 2021 10 hours ago, txchaser said: Consistently bigger fish from a buzzbait. In my experience the 110 WP is a big bass bait. And it gets more bites for me than a buzzbait. This year alone I have a 4, 5.75, 6 and a 7.93 lb. on the WP. The last one is my biggest this calendar year. But the buzzbait is more weedless and a single hook lure, so the percentage landed would be higher with it. Also, it's a great lure to bump up against docks, laydowns, etc. I have a 5.9 lb on the buzzbait and that's the only fish I caught on it this year. Of course, that's a good average, but the sample size is too small to judge. This could all be a function of where I'm fishing. 1 Quote
Jeffrey Walker Posted July 26, 2021 Author Posted July 26, 2021 8 hours ago, scaleface said: If bank fishing from pond my most productive lures have been , in no particular order Beetle spins Texas rigs weightless worms buzzbaits spinnerbaits . I donrt know why but large Beetle Spins and pond bass go together . How big do they come? i’ve only ever seen the small ones Quote
Super User scaleface Posted July 26, 2021 Super User Posted July 26, 2021 1/4 ounce is the biggest I see at the stores . They use to come bigger . I have a few bigger size that I found at a mom and pop store last year . They make a half ounce salt water version that looks promising . But you can create your own . They sell the arms separately . Just add the jig head and body of your choice . Quote
Jeffrey Walker Posted July 27, 2021 Author Posted July 27, 2021 Need some suggestions for buzz baits. Looking to land some big bass. i’ve heard and read that buzz baits can produce big bass but what size, brand, type do you reccomend? Quote
Jeffrey Walker Posted July 27, 2021 Author Posted July 27, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 3:46 PM, Columbia Craw said: I like crankbaits. i find them hard to use in ponds. they dive to deep pick up too much weeds and junk fo be efficient . i do like wake baits i hVe a megabass blade and madbull rod and z crank i’m getting rod, for these reasons, don’t see the need for a moving bait rod, especially considering that i fish mostly ponds. unless im missing, something i am all ears does that make sense? please PM me if interested in the rods. Quote
HaydenS Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 18 hours ago, Jeffrey Walker said: i find them hard to use in ponds. they dive to deep pick up too much weeds and junk fo be efficient . Depends on what crankbait you're throwing. Different bills and diving depths shine in different areas. If you're fishing ponds, you might want to check out a squarebill. I like the strom arashi square, dives to 3 feet. The Rapala BX Brat is another good one, that dives a little deeper. Quote
Jeffrey Walker Posted July 28, 2021 Author Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, HaydenS said: Depends on what crankbait you're throwing. Different bills and diving depths shine in different areas. If you're fishing ponds, you might want to check out a squarebill. I like the strom arashi square, dives to 3 feet. The Rapala BX Brat is another good one, that dives a little deeper. This is the kid if info i was hoping to learn with this thread, thank you sir. I had no idea that this was a possibility.! 1 Quote
HaydenS Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 Just now, Jeffrey Walker said: This is the kid if info i was hoping to learn with this thread, thank you sir. I had no idea that this was a possibility.! Not a problem, glad I could help. Be sure to check out some of Glenn's videos on crankbaits, and how to fish them: https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos?field_tags_target_id=196&items_per_page=21 The crankbaits I am mentioning are squarebills: https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos?field_tags_target_id=196&items_per_page=21 Squarebill: Roundbill: Quote
txchaser Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 8:07 AM, the reel ess said: In my experience the 110 WP is a big bass bait. And it gets more bites for me than a buzzbait. This year alone I have a 4, 5.75, 6 and a 7.93 lb. on the WP. Game on, I'll give my bigger ones a shot. Quote
Jeffrey Walker Posted August 1, 2021 Author Posted August 1, 2021 Good info, thank you everyone. I tried the WP the other day, badded a nice 2.5lber. Topwater is soo much fun. I still dont understand why a buzz bait is more weedless, the hook doesnt point up out of the water like a frog, does it? It must still get hung up alot is there is stuff in the water Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted August 1, 2021 Super User Posted August 1, 2021 On 7/25/2021 at 3:52 PM, Jeffrey Walker said: just curious why would anyone throw a buzz bait if the whopper plopper is basically the same thing but floats? Wood and weeds. The Whopper Plopper trebles catch on every stray stem, leaf or twig they touch because the hooks have multiple points in multiple positions. Buzzbaits have one hook, pointing upward (or two, if you have a trailer hook on), so your chance of snagging is much lower. It's a matter of degree, not an all-or-nothing thing...neither is "weedless", and both will have the problem with the blades getting fouled by vegetation wrapped around it. But Buzzbaits will just come through stuff more often without getting snagged. Quote
Jeffrey Walker Posted August 1, 2021 Author Posted August 1, 2021 Interesting, never considered that. Buzz baits or whopper ploppers, sounds like another thread. If you have both in the bag, Which do you choose and why? Other than the weed componenet any advantages of the plopper. If Quote
Super User Bankc Posted August 1, 2021 Super User Posted August 1, 2021 The plopper can be fished slower than a buzzbait. It's also easier to do a start-stop retrieve. And it makes a different sound and has a different profile, so sometimes fish will prefer one over the other. In a pond, I prefer poppers and propbaits. Pond fish tend to be a bit more skittish and the water tends to be a bit more still, so you often benefit from using smaller, and less aggressive techniques. Though, sometimes the fish want the exact opposite of what you'd think. So you never know. 1 Quote
Super User MIbassyaker Posted August 1, 2021 Super User Posted August 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, Jeffrey Walker said: Interesting, never considered that. Buzz baits or whopper ploppers, sounds like another thread. If you have both in the bag, Which do you choose and why? Other than the weed componenet any advantages of the plopper. If Depends on specific conditions where you fish. If I'm going to be touching cover, I want a buzzbait. If I want to do a start-stop retrieve with pauses, then the plopper. I find myself reaching for the buzzbait in natural lakes and backwaters where there is vegetation up to the surface, and the plopper in rivers, where I can cast upriver of the spots I want to cover, and let the current float it into position before I start the retrieve. That's just what works for me; there aren't any "rules", so do what works for you. On 7/27/2021 at 12:39 AM, Jeffrey Walker said: Need some suggestions for buzz baits. Looking to land some big bass. i’ve heard and read that buzz baits can produce big bass but what size, brand, type do you reccomend? 3/8oz Megastrike Cavitron with a black blade, black skirt. They're well-made, can be fished pretty slow, and have a bend in the wire that makes the head/hook/skirt ride lower in the water, helps with hook-ups. Quote
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