College football realignment

[BrianMDTX]

8 hours ago, VolFan said:

That was mostly tongue-in-cheek…the Browns are actually pretty good. You could also ask yourself how many non-NFL-caliber players are on the Jags…

Gotcha. But, as they were drafted, they are all NFL-caliber. 

[huZZah]

10 hours ago, Tennessee Boy said:

I lot of the money in the sport is going to start going to the players.  I think that’s probably a good thing but it’s really going to shake things up.

I think getting paid to go to college for a sport is the complete opposite of what college is supposed to be. Remember, those facilities all those other losers use are paid for by…those losers there for actual college.  And when push comes to shove the player is gonna go with their money. No loyalty to school. No sense of responsibility. Just entitlement Pure and simple.  Don’t believe me?  Watch what happens if a conference is stupid enough to say their players can’t get paid for name and likeness.  Lol. They don’t play for anyone but themselves. “I’m gonna get mine.”  This will prove it. 
 

I agree that the next 10 years will change sports more than the previous 50 or even 100. And it will be gross. 

[jbsoonerfan]

3 minutes ago, huZZah said:

I think getting paid to go to college for a sport is the complete opposite of what college is supposed to be. Remember, those facilities all those other losers use are paid for by…those losers there for actual college.  And when push comes to shove the player is gonna go with their money. No loyalty to school. No sense of responsibility. Just entitlement Pure and simple.  Don’t believe me?  Watch what happens if a conference is stupid enough to say their players can’t get paid for name and likeness.  Lol. They don’t play for anyone but themselves. “I’m gonna get mine.”  This will prove it. 
 

I agree that the next 10 years will change sports more than the previous 50 or even 100. And it will be gross. 

That literally can't happen now. 

[huZZah]

8 minutes ago, jbsoonerfan said:

That literally can't happen now. 

Yeah that’s my point. I think this will be totally unsustainable to the detriment of athletes and fans alike.  And probably echo up into pros.  
 

Kid: What’s the base NFL salary? Lol, I made more than that in “college.”

[jbsoonerfan]

46 minutes ago, huZZah said:

Yeah that’s my point. I think this will be totally unsustainable to the detriment of athletes and fans alike.  And probably echo up into pros.  
 

Kid: What’s the base NFL salary? Lol, I made more than that in “college.”

It's for sure going to be a crap show!!!!!

[flatcreek]

The showboating is about to get worse.

[Tennessee Boy]

2 hours ago, huZZah said:

I think getting paid to go to college for a sport is the complete opposite of what college is supposed to be.

I completely agree but the football tail has been wagging the college dog for a very long time.  

 

[Columbia Craw]

It’s all about the cash.

[TnRiver46]

21 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

Old School

 

When I was younger, back in the 1800's

Hahhahhahahahaha

[N Florida Mike]

On 7/24/2021 at 7:46 AM, BrianMDTX said:

They’d get crushed. If any SEC team played any NFL franchise in a true, competive game, they’d get hammered. No contest. 
 

How many NFL-caliber players are on the Crimson Tide? How many are on the Jaguars? Do the math!

I personally think Bama could beat the jags on a regular basis… at least last year’s “team”.

[jbsoonerfan]

There has NEVER been a college team that could beat any NFL team. 

[BassNJake]

8 hours ago, jbsoonerfan said:

There has NEVER been a college team that could beat any NFL team. 

Did you ever watch the Browns when they had Tim Couch or Johnny Manziel as the QB?

 

Ever see 2 guards pull at the same time going in opposite directions, smash into each other and fall behind the center in a college game? That happened on a Tim Couch led Browns team.

[Tennessee Boy]

For 42 years ending in 1976,  the College All Stars from the previous year's senior class played the Superbowl Champion in a pre season game.  Not exactly the same as the best college team playing the worst NFL team but it was still interesting.   As I remember,  the games were always competitive.  The college all-stars were always more motivated than the super bowl champs.  The NFL team was more prepared as a unit since they had been through preseason practice together.  Most of the all stars were on NFL rosters and left their team to play this one game. The Superbowl champs won 31 of the 42 games. 

[volzfan59]

I know that this is slightly off topic, but it's already been breeched.

 

First, college football players (not just football) have been getting paid, to a point, for a long time. What is a scholarship? If an athlete is good enough, they are offered full scholarships, partial scholarships, etc to play football, basketball, baseball, etc. That's a form of compensation. 

 

In my opinion, if a player accepts money or any other compensation for playing a sport, any scholarships should be recinded/ forfeited. If an athlete is being otherwise compensated, they don't need a scholarship.

[Tennessee Boy]

25 minutes ago, volzfan59 said:

In my opinion, if a player accepts money or any other compensation for playing a sport, any scholarships should be recinded/ forfeited. If an athlete is being otherwise compensated, they don't need a scholarship.

In my non lawyer legal opinion.  It would be fine for a school to do that but they would never get another quality recruit again.  If the NCAA or a conference tried to do it it would be illegal (a violation of the Supreme court's ruling).

 

[TnRiver46]

41 minutes ago, volzfan59 said:

I know that this is slightly off topic, but it's already been breeched.

 

First, college football players (not just football) have been getting paid, to a point, for a long time. What is a scholarship? If an athlete is good enough, they are offered full scholarships, partial scholarships, etc to play football, basketball, baseball, etc. That's a form of compensation. 

 

In my opinion, if a player accepts money or any other compensation for playing a sport, any scholarships should be recinded/ forfeited. If an athlete is being otherwise compensated, they don't need a scholarship.

If you factor in student loan interest, a scholarship is worth a couple million dollars. These guys complaining about being under compensated drives me mad 

[Tennessee Boy]

3 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

If you factor in student loan interest, a scholarship is worth a couple million dollars. These guys complaining about being under compensated drives me mad 

Are that many complaining?  They are getting paid.  Just under the table.  If you want to hate the currently system read  "The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big-Time College Football".  I'm hoping the supreme court's ruling will stop players from being paid under the table.  Now they can be paid above the table and we'll see where that takes us.   We might end up with something similar to what happened in Tennessee with high school football.   There used to be rules against recruiting.  A team here in middle Tennessee was found in violation of those rules.  They took it to the US Supreme court and won.  Now there's a separate division of private schools in Tennessee that recruit and provide athletic scholarships.  They play each other and similar powerhouse schools around the country.  The rest of the state plays high school football the way it's always been played.

[TnRiver46]

3 minutes ago, Tennessee Boy said:

Are that many complaining?  They are getting paid.  Just under the table.  If you want to hate the currently system read  "The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big-Time College Football".  I'm hoping the supreme court's ruling will stop players from being paid under the table.  Now they can be paid above the table and we'll see where that takes us.   We might end up with something similar to what happened in Tennessee with high school football.   There used to be rules against recruiting.  A team here in middle Tennessee was found in violation of those rules.  They took it to the US Supreme court and won.  Now there's a separate division of private schools in Tennessee that recruit and provide athletic scholarships.  They play each other and similar powerhouse schools around the country.  The rest of the state plays high school football the way it's always been played.

 Yes they were complaining like crazy, thus the new rules . Some players even said they didn’t get enough food, total BS right there. I had plenty of buddies that lived in the athletic dorm and they had way better food than all the other cafeterias as you might imagine 

[Tennessee Boy]

4 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

 Yes they were complaining like crazy, thus the new rules . Some players even said they didn’t get enough food, total BS right there. I had plenty of buddies that lived in the athletic dorm and they had way better food than all the other cafeterias as you might imagine 

I understand that college kids complain.  I know I complained about the food in college.   The president of the NCAA makes $4 million a year.  The commissioners of the major conferences make between $2-$5 million a year. College sports are big business.  There's a story in the book I mentioned above about a kid who had a half track scholarship.  He was home for Christmas and went with some friends to a basketball game.  He was selected to take a shot at halftime to win a car.  He hit the shot and won the car.  The NCAA found out and told him he had to give the car back or he would loose his eligibility. They go after athletes for very stupid violations of the rules when everyone knows there are major violations happening everywhere that go unpunished.  Who knows what's going on with boosters?  It's a problem that needs to be stopped but how do you stop it?  If I give a Tennessee football player $100 and he accepts it,  is that the schools fault?   John Wooden is revered for his basketball success at UCLA.  We now know a booster was providing all kinds of payments and benefits to players and recruits.   That came out years later.  Who knows if Wooden was aware of it or not.  Similar situation happened with Miami football.   How many other things big and small are happening with boosters that no one knows about?  I don't think rules should exist if they can't be enforced.  Most of the NCAA's rules are not or cannot be enforced.  Personally,  I'm ready for an above board bidding war for top players.  The schools and fans that are willing to pay the price will win.  Some players will get rich.  There will be a lot less money left over for coaches,  conference commissioners, and gaudy athletic facilities.  It will be a big mess.  Then maybe someone will figure out how to fix it.  In the mean time,  I think I'm gonna start going to some games at Cumberland University.  I doubt if any of the players will be signing deals with Nike.  The stadium is 10 miles from house and tickets are $8 with my senior discount.  ?

[Black Hawk Basser]

One thing is for sure with Name, Image and Likeness - If the NCAA gets too involved, it'll be a huge disaster.

[jbsoonerfan]

The NIL deal hasn't even been a thing for a month and it already could have major ramifications on high school players. I can't imagine being his coach.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/will-americas-no-1-qb-recruit-quinn-ewers-give-up-7-figure-nil-offers-for-one-more-season-of-texas-high-school-football-200803437.html 

[Tennessee Boy]

1 hour ago, jbsoonerfan said:

The NIL deal hasn't even been a thing for a month and it already could have major ramifications on high school players. I can't imagine being his coach.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/will-americas-no-1-qb-recruit-quinn-ewers-give-up-7-figure-nil-offers-for-one-more-season-of-texas-high-school-football-200803437.html 

Wow,  that’s pretty crazy.  That guy’s future is bright.   I could see a lot of kids getting coerced into bad deals that could hurt them in the long run.

[roadwarrior]

It's official: SEC Rules!

 

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/oklahoma-texas-sec-2025

[jbsoonerfan]

On 7/28/2021 at 5:17 PM, jbsoonerfan said:

The NIL deal hasn't even been a thing for a month and it already could have major ramifications on high school players. I can't imagine being his coach.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/will-americas-no-1-qb-recruit-quinn-ewers-give-up-7-figure-nil-offers-for-one-more-season-of-texas-high-school-football-200803437.html 

Well, he's gone

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nations-top-qb-recruit-is-leaving-high-school-early-for-ohio-state-155809921.html