This Makes Me Mad.

[TnRiver46]

2 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

Unless you're doing a stew - except for the back-strap, I cubed deer meat and used it as replacement for lamb in Irish Stew...always do stew in a crock-pot.

Ok now I’m starving. I’d jump in that stew and swim around

 

reminds me of an old traditional song lyric

 

“if the river was whiskey and I was a duck, I’d dive to the bottom and never come up”

 

boy I’ve hijacked this one bad 

[MN Fisher]

8 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

I’d jump in that stew and swim around

Sorry - 'long pig' is not something I'd want in my stew.

[Sphynx]

3 hours ago, gimruis said:

 

There are a lot of hunters that have absolutely no interest in eating what they have harvested.  Sure, a lot are meat hunters.  But I know a fair amount that aren't.  Trophy hunting and predator hunting in every form does not have the intention to consume but is very popular.  I don't honestly hunt anything purely for the point of eating it and I hunt deer, waterfowl, turkeys, and pheasants every season.  I do it because I enjoy the pure aspect of hunting and spending time with nature (and my dog and my Father).  I will admit that I consume most of what I harvest or give it to someone that wants it though.  And frankly there are some things that I hunt that taste downright terrible like diving ducks, an old leathery rutted up buck, and canadian goose.  Even a wild turkey is not very good but luckily I can find someone who wants it should I get one.

There are lots of folks who follow lots of practices, some legal, some not, some a given person might agree with, others that are more objectionable, I have no interest in judging others for what they do, simply stating what I personally practice, if I have a problem with eating it, I won't personally hunt it, same for fish, if I wouldn't be willing to eat one that I caused a clearly fatal situation for, I wouldn't fish for it, not at all suggesting that anyone else be held to these rules, they are just the ones I follow and have found to work well for me.

[throttleplate]

2 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

some of the best food on earth 

 

yes i agree, lots of protein, crunchy and tastes like chicken.

 

 

2 hours ago, TnRiver46 said:

 

 

 

 

[Smells like fish]

1 hour ago, TnRiver46 said:

Ok now I’m starving. I’d jump in that stew and swim around

 

reminds me of an old traditional song lyric

 

“if the river was whiskey and I was a duck, I’d dive to the bottom and never come up”

 

boy I’ve hijacked this one bad 

That’s Pete Seeger singing Rye Whiskey

[WRB]

Back on topic tournaments can kill bass and has. The 2008 Falcon BASS tournament killed over 500 big bass overstressed from poor livewell management. The livewell water over heated with too many bass dropping DO levels resulting in the massive fish kill.

Catch weigh and verify with instant release is the future, livewells are a relic of the past.

Tom

[Sphynx]

9 minutes ago, WRB said:

Back on topic tournaments can kill bass and has. The 2008 Falcon BASS tournament killed over 500 big bass overstressed from poor livewell management. The livewell water over heated with too many bass dropping DO levels resulting in the massive fish kill.

Catch weigh and verify with instant release is the future, livewells are a relic of the past.

Tom

The fact of the matter is they already have an official either on the boat or nearby monitoring anglers for infractions as it is, there really is no reason they can't have them weigh and release the fish on the spot with minimal cost of time to the angler, plus you have an advantage of getting to weigh them before any possible purging or dead fish penalties, so it really doesn't hurt the anglers as far as I can see

[WRB]

MLF initiated the weigh on camera format to market the show to advertisers. B.A.S.S. Is still promoting the big weigh in show to attract the public for advertising and monetizing the events.  

The local trails and club events still copy B.A.S.S. Weigh ins at the marina. Tournament anglers enjoy the ego trip of holding up the catch in front of their peers. 

Times are changing and the days of live limit weigh ins are like the kill and eat fish fries after the events of the 70’s.

Tom

[TnRiver46]

40 minutes ago, Smells like fish said:

That’s Pete Seeger singing Rye Whiskey

That’s it!!

[MGF]

5 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Unless you're doing a stew - except for the back-strap, I cubed deer meat and used it as replacement for lamb in Irish Stew...always do stew in a crock-pot.

We do our deer in steaks, chops and roasts. Somehow my wife turns it into some of the best food in the world. She uses some for stew meat but...

[gim]

6 hours ago, WRB said:

Times are changing

My parents fish a state amateur walleye circuit here in MN.  For years, it was a standard weigh in with a specific amount of fish.  Most of the walleyes died.  They're way more fragile than bass and they're often targeted with live bait too.  All of the dead fish never went to waste, as they were cleaned and donated to a local food shelf.  The pandemic has shifted how they do it.  Since no large gatherings or crowds were permitted, they started doing CPR format, similar to how bass tournaments are done with kayaks.  Each fish has to be placed on a measuring board and photographed.  Then the length has a standard conversion to weight and the 5 largest walleyes are scored.  I'm sure some walleyes still succumb to mortality especially in the warm summer period but none enter a live well anymore.  Science has proven that if a fish doesn't go in a live well, it has a higher chance of surviving.

[WRB]

Kayak bass tournament use the total longest 5 bass caught, not weight. The winners photograph on the length board is validated. The average LMB  weigh Length X Length X75% of Length divided by 1200. It’s simplifies the tournament to use length only. 5 bass 20” long = 100 inches for example. For kayaks the 100” total is golden.

Tom

[schplurg]

11 hours ago, WRB said:

You are welcome to have your own opinion buy not your own facts.

Tony Gergely Owner of Sure Life products and the late Doug Hannon developed Catch & Release. Take few minutes to to study the facts before making false claims. 

I used SURE LIFE products and 3% Hydrogen peroxide for nearly 3 decades very successfully.

Tom

 

Like I said, I'm not mentioning names but H2O2 is not what I'm referring to. H2O2 will oxygenate water. That is a provable fact. This quote from "whoevers" website is not:

 

With superior dissolving capabilities, improved calming effects and an overwhelming ability to remove both heavy metals and pesticides (both of which can be especially harmful in coves or canals)

 

Overwhelming! I have emailed the gentleman who created the stuff. If a customer asks you how your own product works and you can't or refuse to explain it, it's a good chance that it doesn't actually work.

 

Let's talk about "improved calming effects" while we are at it too maybe later. That's a bit more believable, though again hard to prove.

 

You cannot remove heavy metals from fish by dumping powder into a livewell, and I really don't understand why you'd want to anyways. 

 

More like, "Hey we're using the same chemical that can be sometimes included in chelation remedies, let's add that to our claims!"

 

As I said, a claim made without evidence can be discarded without evidence. I have provided at least some evidence. A lot of very popular products are BS outside of the fishing world. Look up homeopathy for one. I don't care what famous angler promotes it. It's bad science. 

 

I don't want to get in trouble with the forum so I will stop talking about it now.

52 minutes ago, WRB said:

Kayak bass tournament use the total longest 5 bass caught, not weight. The winners photograph on the length board is validated. The average LMB  weigh Length X Length X75% of Length divided by 1200. It’s simplifies the tournament to use length only. 5 bass 20” long = 100 inches for example. For kayaks the 100” total is golden.

Tom

 

I do like the idea of measuring length, but it seems like there's such a wide weight range within each length. I dunno, I guess it would be a shame to catch a pig, but lost out because she was fat and short.

 

Weighing in the boat by an official is best probably, but most small tournaments can't afford to hire all those people. Maybe volunteers, but you have to be able to trust them not to cheat.

 

I remember a news story maybe 4 years ago where a guy was arrested for cheating in kayak tourneys. He had some cut bass tails in his boat, and he would use them to make the fish look longer by covering the "seam" with his hand during the picture. They caught him with the tails in his yak, I believe.

[David 7]

I really appreciate what MLF does for the sport and more importantly, the hobby/ fishing as a whole. I think their model for tournament fishing is the best we have seen yet. The KBF tournament is pretty cool too, though it would be a lot cooler if it were just paddles and no electronics IMHO. 
 

Either way, I can watch both of these tournaments on YouTube all day long.

[WRB]

Length by itself is extremely misleading but a simple solution to a complex problem that is weight.

If you want to retake in Tony Gregely and Sure Life products good luck you are treading on very thin ice.

Tom