Ravox Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 Always saw recommendations to use heavy wire hooks with zoom flukes that is what I'm using for a long time a 4/0 EWG, until I decided to change to a light wire 2 days ago, the number of bites was higher, I assume is because the bait is lighter with a light wire hook and takes more time to reach the bottom? Also notices that I need to work the bait less with a light wire hook, now this makes sense? its a good a idea to switch to light wire hook after all? 1 Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted July 15, 2021 Super User Posted July 15, 2021 Think it depends on the scenario. I feel like when I'm working open water especially if the bass are targeting balls of shad I prefer a lighter wire hook because it does slow the fall and improve the action. Alot of the time though I am using a fluke in brush the way I would a senko so in that scenario I prefer the heavy wire hook for strength to pull them out and also for a faster fall to get a reaction strike. 1 Quote
Super User jimmyjoe Posted July 15, 2021 Super User Posted July 15, 2021 Personally, I care how many fish I actually acquire, not how many hits I get. If I'm fishing a fluke above weeds (which I do a lot) I'll opt for the heavy hook every time. jj 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted July 15, 2021 Super User Posted July 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Ravox said: Always saw recommendations to use heavy wire hooks with zoom flukes that is what I'm using for a long time a 4/0 EWG, until I decided to change to a light wire 2 days ago, the number of bites was higher, I assume is because the bait is lighter with a light wire hook and takes more time to reach the bottom? Also notices that I need to work the bait less with a light wire hook, now this makes sense? its a good a idea to switch to light wire hook after all? In your case, yes, but the opposite is also possible. The heavier wire hook will increase the ROF and decrease the action of the bait, as well as changing it somewhat. None of that is good or bad, just different, and it may or may not be what is desired at any given time, place, and condition. Quote
Russ E Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 I usually only use fine wire hooks in spring when fishing relatively shallow around beds. In summer I prefer a medium wire hook when skipping super flukes under cover. I also use the medium wire on carolina or mojo rigged fluke. I don't care for heavy hooks on a fluke. I think it kills the action. Plus when fishing a weightless super fluke I prefer a medium action rod and heavy hooks usually require a heavier rod. 4/0 no matter what hook I am using 1 1 Quote
papajoe222 Posted July 15, 2021 Posted July 15, 2021 I never understood the need to use heavy wire hooks for Flukes. It’s basically an open water presentation, not a heavy cover one. Even if a fish burries itself in weeds. The pros and tournament anglers use heavier line and heavy wire hooks because the don’t want to waste time going to the fish to retrieve it. They’d rather sacrifice a few bites. 2 Quote
Super User fishwizzard Posted July 16, 2021 Super User Posted July 16, 2021 The only time I use a heavy hook for a fluke is when I am fishing moving water and the current is enough that I want a little more sink, but not enough for a 1/16oz weight. For the most part I don't use heavy enough tackle for flukes to make a light or standard wire hook the best choice. Quote
Super User NHBull Posted July 16, 2021 Super User Posted July 16, 2021 Lite wire for me, with a snap, or barrel swivel to keep the nose down a bit Quote
BlakeMolone Posted July 16, 2021 Posted July 16, 2021 Guess I’m in the minority here, I like the tiny little bit of extra weight a heavy wire ewg gives the fluke, I will even wrap a tiny bit of lead tape around the hook when it’s a little windy to keep the bait from rising. Quote
Super User ATA Posted July 16, 2021 Super User Posted July 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, BlakeMolone said: Guess I’m in the minority here, I like the tiny little bit of extra weight a heavy wire ewg gives the fluke, I will even wrap a tiny bit of lead tape around the hook when it’s a little windy to keep the bait from rising. I was like that also, but since I learn double fluke rig, I do only 1X 2/0 or 3/0 at the most, And it is productive. and use light fluorocarbon of ofcourse. Quote
Happybeerbuzz Posted July 16, 2021 Posted July 16, 2021 I only fish soft jerk baits around vegetation where I can not fish a hard jerk bait. It is generally on heavier line and a superline EWG. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted July 16, 2021 Global Moderator Posted July 16, 2021 I like the biggest hooks I can put in a fluke. I don’t know about light or heavy gauge but I miss almost every single fish that ever hit a fluke with 1/0 and 2/0 hook. Switched to 5/0 and I actually started hooking them. There’s a lot of plastic to gob up on the hook when the fish chomps down Quote
flatcreek Posted July 16, 2021 Posted July 16, 2021 I’m a fan of the 4/0 ewg light wire hook on the super fluke and the 3/0 ewg on the fluke junior.wait until you feel the fish and then sweep the rod and you got him Quote
Super User TOXIC Posted July 16, 2021 Super User Posted July 16, 2021 I use a 4.0 EWG, Gamakatsu hook for my DShads. It is a light wire hook. Light is a relative term. I have never straightened or broken a thin wire Gamakatsu hook. I even punched heavy vegetation with it in Florida. The DShad is heavier than most fluke style baits so I don’t need any help with the fall rate. I throw my DShads in open water, wood and on top of heavy vegetation all on 6lb test mono so I will go get them if I need to and I can guarantee you my line will break before the hook. Finally, I like the easier penetration of the thinner wire both through the plastic and the fish’s yap. 1 Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted July 16, 2021 Super User Posted July 16, 2021 Owner Twistlock light wire -- 3/0, 4/0 & 5/0... piece of nail weight if I need more depth oe Quote
schplurg Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 On 7/15/2021 at 1:15 PM, papajoe222 said: I never understood the need to use heavy wire hooks for Flukes. It’s basically an open water presentation, not a heavy cover one. Even if a fish burries itself in weeds. The pros and tournament anglers use heavier line and heavy wire hooks because the don’t want to waste time going to the fish to retrieve it. They’d rather sacrifice a few bites. Interesting point. Good reminder that what a pro does isn't always best for the average angler. Thanks. Quote
Big Swimbait Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 I will really be upset when I run out of the Dangleberry Rig hooks. They are not made any more to my knowledge but the way the weight slides back and forth when you work the Fluke is magic. Quote
Super User Bird Posted July 17, 2021 Super User Posted July 17, 2021 Throw all kinds of variations of hooks and nose weights depending on what action I'm looking for. 5.0 heavy wire on magnum flukes. Try nose hooking a fluke or Assassin with small drop-shot hook. Quote
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